Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

Mother of 5 Crystal Rogers is last seen July 3 by her live-in boyfriend, Brooks Houck. Crystal Rogers mother, Sherry Ballard, reports her missing on July 5. Later that day, Crystal Rogers red Chevy Malibu is found abandoned on the Bluegrass Parkway. The car has a flat tire but Rogers' keys, phone and purse are still inside. 16-months later, Crystal Rogers is still missing and her father, Sherry Ballard's husband, Tommy Ballard, is murdered in the early morning hours as he prepares to go hunting on his own property with his 12-year-old grandson.  Ballard is shot from an undetermined distance but his property backs up against the Bluegrass Parkway. A fast getaway in either direction for a gunman. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will explore the disappearance of Crystal Rogers and the murder of her dad, Tommy Ballard.  Plus, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how prosecutors can prove Crystal Rogers was murdered even though they haven't found her body.

Transcribe Highlights

00:12.12 Introduction of growing up with PaPaw Morgan
03:34.36 Discuss Crystal Rogers missing, her father Tommy Ballard murdered
06:15.27 Discussion of Bardstown Kentucky 
07:46.82 Discussion of why Brooks Houck didn't report Rogers missing
08:13.81 Talk about Crystal Rogers car found on Bluegrass parkway
15:45.34 Talk Rogers car found with flat tire, she is still missing
18:16.83 Discussion of Brooks Houck, suspect, brother is police officer
21:13.58 Discussion of police letting Houck talk to his brother on phone
26:27.16 Talk about tracking dogs pick up Crystal Rogers scent at farm, but not at her car
31:09.10. Discussion 16 months after Crystal Rogers vanishes, her dad, Tommy Ballard killed
34:36.43 Discussion of how bullet twists the skin
39:02.99 Discussion of Tommy Ballard hunting, murdered on his own property
40:52.53 Discussion of murder charges without a body
43:45.73 Conclusion - waiting for trial 

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Corey Micciolo did not meet his father until he was 5-years-old. Soon thereafter Corey landed in the middle of a custody battle. From the first time he was left alone with his father, Corey came home with bruises, busted lips, and more. His mother complained but nobody listened. Only now are people paying attention because of an awful video showing 6-year-old Corey Micciolo being forced to run on a treadmill and falling off, over and over. Each time he falls off the treadmill, his father puts him back on and turns the speed up, allegedly.  Christiopher Gregor is on trial facing murder charges for allegedly killing his own son in what the media calls the Treadmill Abuse Trial. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what really happened to Corey Micciolo and why 6-year-olds don't drop over dead, and Dave Mack will fill in the rest of the story of how Corey was given to a father that never bonded with him while his mother begged for anyone to listen.

00:38.98 Introduction, talk about weapons

05:17.90 Discussion of exorcise as punishment

10:01.23 Talk about making 6-year-old run on treadmill

16:01.12 Discussion of bruises and injuries

21:06.32 Talk about Corey's health is fine, except for bruises

26:20.26 Talk about Corey tells doctor about football and treadmill

32:41.40 Discussion of children don't die of natural causes at 6

37:27.82 Discussion of injury to abdomen

39:12:19 Conclusion Final Diagnosis, Blunt Force impact, laceration of heart

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Lisa and David Hernandez had been separated for a year before he starts stalking her, showing up at her job uninvited and unwelcome. He sends his estranged wife a bouquet of flowers with Lillies, "the Death Flower", knowing she is extremely allergic to them. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how someone can be killed by a blunt force instrument and a sharp-edged instrument at the same time and Dave Mack will fill in the story with the creepy stalking that David Hernandez allegedly did to his wife.

Transcribed Highlights
00:02:00 Introduction of Lisa Hernandez 

05:12.52 Discussion of "Death Flower" 

08:50.91 Talk about a tool as a weapon
14:17.46 Discussion of skull injury

19:46.20 Discussion of suspect knowing victim allergies

24:28.29 Talk about a "staged" scene
29:19.40 Discussion of allergic reaction 
32:32.27 Discussion of blunt force and sharp force 
36:26.87 Talk about tossing weapon / tool into lake
41:22.33  Discussion of Searching the bottom of a lake

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On August 4, 2020, 12-year-old Jaylen Griffin went to the corner store in his neighborhood to try and make a little money helping people carry their groceries home.  On this day,  he brings his new puppy with him and many people remember seeing the boy and his puppy. But Jaylen Griffin and his puppy never makes it home that evening. It seems as though Jaylen has vanished into thin air. Neighborhood searches, flyers, reward money, nothing helps bring the boy home. Three months after Jaylen goes missing his older brother is murdered, shot dead almost in front of their Buffalo, New York home. Days turn into weeks, weeks into months, and months into years. In September 2023, Jaylen's mother dies,
never knowing what happened to her 12-year-old son. Months after her passing, the decomposed remains of Jaylen Griffin are found in the attic of a house about 5-miles from where Jaylen lived in south Buffalo. The house was no stranger to law enforcement and many people wonder how it was possible the remains of a child could decompose in the attic of a house with many residents and nobody smelled or saw anything. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will breakdown the forensics that will help determine the  cause and manner of death and  try to answer questions that could lead to justice for Jaylin Griffin

Transcript Highlights

00:03.10 Introduction of life, memories 

01:06.13 Talk about 12-year-old boy missing 4 years

05:20.86 Talk about getting help from dentist to ID victim

07:45.26 Discussion of how to identify remains of a child

11:36.93 Discussion of "Bite" marks as evidence 

17:00.65 Jaylen and the "12-year molar"

20:05.82 Discussion of weather on remains

24:45.81 Talk about the home where Jaylen's remains were found

29:22.81 Discussion of remains and smell, compare to Harmony Montgomery

33:00.68 Discussion of law enforcement, fire, rescue calls to address

37:24.74 Talk about remains having "soft tissue"

41:20.56 Conclusion will the remains lead to a murderer?

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From Mother's Day 2020 until September 2023, only one person really knew that Suzanne Morphew wasn't just missing, she was dead. In September 2023 the remains of Suzanne Morphew were found while investigators were working a different crime, An autopsy was done on the remains and on this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how doctors were able to create a toxicology report using only bones, and why Susanne Morphew's death has been ruled a homicide.

Transcribed Highlights 
00:42.91 Introduction of Suzanne Morphew

03:21.30 Talk about autopsy of bones

06:54.40 Discussion of remains 

10:43.53 Discussion of Mountain Lions
 
14:37.94 Talk about the disappearance of Suzanne Morphew

18:16.37 Discussion of darts and animals

20:55.11 Talk about the depth of a hole for remains

26:25.13 Discussion of co-mingling of bones
 
30:06.14 Discussion of decomposed body

35:20.28.Talking about the bones in the arms
 
41:21.60 Discussion of darts and toxicology

47:03.48 Conclusion of the Suzanne Morphew

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This episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan is a look at the death and autopsy of John Wilkes Booth.  Booth shot Abraham Lincoln from behind around 10:15 pm April 14, 1865. He died the next morning, April 15, at 7:22 am. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will uncover the track that Booth took as he tried to escape, and finally being shot himself. Joseph Scott Morgan will make you feel like you witnessed the autopsy yourself as he explains, in great detail, the autopsy of John Wilkes Booth. 

Transcribe Highlights
00:13.63 Introduction - autopsy of John Wilkes Booth
01:45.79 Discuss Forensic expert is a history fan
05:09.53 Talk about the Booth acting family
08:22.93 Discussion of how Booth wrecked everything
12:47.62.Talk about Booth jumping to stage
18:45.53 Discussion of expectation
22:49.66 Talk about the conspiracy
27:50.24.Discussion of Booth broken leg
32:01.96 Talk about comparing Lincoln to Kennedy
38:40.42 Discussion of Booth not getting help
41:08.80 Talk about getting Booth on boat
48:59.90.Discussion of putting a door on saw horses as a table
50:03.11 Talk about Autopsy in 1800s
52:18.34 Discussion of Booth being wrapped in military blanket
56:27.97 Conclusion, Lincoln wanted the country to heal  

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Sade Robinson is having fun on her first date with a new guy. They pose together and post the picture to social media. Sade had no idea she was taking a picture with the devil and she only had hours to live.

In this episode of "Body Bags," Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the killer sealed his fate by trying to destroy evidence with fire.

Transcribe Highlights 

00:22.97 Introduction Milwaukee 

05:01.65. Talk about Jeffrey Dahmer 

07:29.72 Discussion of dismemberment 

09:53.60 Talk about getting rid of smell with tires 

14:06.81 Discussion of finding leg 

 20:10.93 Talk about remains being compromised  

25:18.19. Breaking down the timeline  

30:30.67. Discussion of other women missing 

34:38.48 Talk about fire inside a car 

36:38.64 Discussion of witness who saw person use lighter to start car fire 

39:33.42 Conclusion – how remains will tell what really happened to Sade 

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Boston Cop John O'Keefe and his girlfriend Karen Read go on a pub crawl before ending their the night at the home of a Boston cop friend of O'Keefe's at 12:45 am. 6 hours later, the body of John O'Keefe is found in the front yard of the house, covered in snow in blizzard conditions. He is wearing two shirts, jeans, socks and one shoe. Near his body on the snow are shards of glass and splotches of blood. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will take an up close look at the injuries and find out what really happened to John O'Keefe. Dave Mack will breakdown the story that has divided Boston and together they will try to answer the question: Who Killed John O'Keefe?

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Transcribed Highlights 

00:01.10   Introduction, talk about weather conditions and murder 

02:05.22 Discussion of Karen Read case 

05:05.56 Talk about Media coverage 

09:09.25 Discussion of forensics role in investigation 

14:06.82 Talk about background of relationship 

16:16.35 Breaking down timeline of events 

19:50.94 Discussion of physical injuries   

21:07.56 Talk about Blood Alcohol 

25:20.82 Talk about leaving bar, going to house party 

30:09.48 Talk about Text Messages, getting directions 

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Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley vanish on their way to pick up Veronica’s children to go to a birthday party. They were supposed to meet up with Veronica Butler’s ex-mother-in-law at a closed gas station in rural Texas County, Oklahoma. But they never make it. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how evidence from blood to tire treads will help solve the mystery of the Missing Moms.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of shared custody 

00:03:10 Discussion or relationships and death 

00:06:50 Talk about terrain 

00:11:03 Discussion of moms reported missing 

00:14:08 Talk about how vehicle ended up where it is found 

00:18:46 Discussion of evidence found at scene 

00:23:21Talk about tire tread identification 

00:27:47 Discussion of term “puddle of blood” 

00:31:16 Discussion of meeting place 

00:34:16 Talk about SWAT Teams showing up in Rural County 

00:38:44 Talk about death penalty states 

00:40:56 Discussion identifying body 

00:42:29 Conclusion 

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For years she was labeled “Bones 20” the unidentified victim of the Green River Killer. But now, thanks to police work and Othram Labs, the victim has been named as Tammy Liles. She was from Everett, Washington, and vanished in the summer of 1983. She was only 16 years old when she became a victim of serial killer Gary Ridgeway. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will take you behind the headlines and into the lab that helped give a name to a young lady who spent decades being called “bones 20”.  

Transcript Highlights  

00:0:16 Introduction – The Green River Killer last victim identified 

00:02:28 Talk about age reference  

00:06:32 Discussion of high-profile murders 

00:10:48 Talk about the Green River Killer 16-year-old victim 

00:15:56 Discussion of identifying remains 

00:20:54 Discussion of the Green River Killer evidence 

00:25:58 Talk about starting with incomplete skeleton 

00:29:41 Discussion of Genetic Genealogy 

00:34:51 Talking about Othram labs 

00:37:39 Conclusion; might be the most noble of pursuits 

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Destiny Duckett’s cousin couldn’t reach her by phone, so she stopped by her apartment to check on her. The cousin knocks on the door, but Destiny doesn’t answer. The cousin can hear the baby crying and she is worried. She calls police to do a welfare check and when they enter Destiny Duckett’s apartment, her 8-week old son is on the bed, crying, and his 22-year-old mother is on the floor, dead. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will look into the mysterious death of 22-year-old new mother, Destiny Duckett and Joseph Scott Morgan  will explain how fingernails play a keep part in solving the murder. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of case 

00:02:20 Discussion of fingernails  

00:05:37 Talk about cousin called police, heard baby crying 

00:10:56 Discussion of protective order leading to arrest of suspect  

00:15:26 Talk about leaving crying baby on the bed, alone, mother dead on floor 

00:19:43 Discussion of body being the biggest evidence 

00:24:16 Discussion of proving knees were on chest of victim 

00:28:26 Talk about fingernail marks on the neck 

00:33:55 Discussion of why suspect was already in jail 

00:36:33 Conclusion – Convicted, sentencing to come 

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A bag with a burned, dismembered torso is found by a boy out for a horseback ride about a mile from town. The police chief says he was mowing his lawn when he got the call about the headless, armless, legless, burned torso, and from that moment on it was "chaos". On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will tell the story of the dismembered and burned torso and how, after 44-years, he was finally identified with DNA and Othram labs.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of episode 

00:02:13 Talk about identifying Joseph Caliva 

00:06:15 Discussion of years beginning in 1979 

00:10:40 Talk about dismemberment 

00:15:48 Discussion of what was found 

00:17:39 Talk about burned remains 

00:22:25 Discussion about trying to ID person 

00:27:25 Talk about finding portions of the torso 

00:31:54 Talk about creating a person out of evidence 

00:36:34 Discussion after 44 years, victim identified 

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AUTOPSY REPORT WILL NOT BE RELEASED. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what happened to Madeline Soto and Dave Mack will dig into the back story of the entire family. You will find out by the time she reached 13-years-old, Madeline Soto had already been sexually abused for years. When she was a “missing 13-year-old" from Florida, the news covered every tidbit of information about the search for the teen. One piece of evidence that made it to the press was how Madeline Soto told a friend when she turned 13, she was going to live in the woods. That is why police searched the woods for Madeline.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:28 Introduction, talk about parents protecting children 

00:04:28 Talk about Madeline Soto saying she wanted to live in the woods 

00:05:31 Discussion of ages 12 and 13 

00:09:04 Discussion of Madeline not taking cell phone 

00:12:29 Talk about family being told about evidence 

00:16:42 Discussion of time children go to school 

00:20:07 Discussion of Madeline Soto seen in vehicle 

00:21:49 Talk about being haunted by evidence 

00:26:26 Discussion of Madeline Soto 

00:30:26 Talk about video surveillance of suspect 

00:33:22 Discussion of 60 charges against suspect  

00:37:32 Discussion of evidence of previous abuse 

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The fire department shows up at the home of one of their own and find Melissa Lamesch unconscious on the kitchen floor as her home goes up in flames around her. She is on maternity leave from her job as an EMT and is expecting her baby to be born any day. Melissa Lamesch and her unborn baby die in what authorities believe is asphyxiation from the fire. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will breakdown how trying to burn evidence of a crime, oftentimes creates the evidence needed for conviction.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:08 Introduction of fire set to cover-up a murder 

00:01:18 Talk about fire and smoke 

00:03:10 Discussion of smoke as evidence 

00:05:05 Discussion of woman, 9 months pregnant, dying in a fire 

00:08:35 Talk about how healing takes place after being burned  

00:11:26 Discussion of hair catching fire in bathroom 

00:14:43 Victim is on maternity leave from job as EMT 

00:18:53 Discussion of the mother and her baby 

00:22:53 Discussion of monoxide 

00:28:01 Talk about suffocation 

00:33:33 Discussion of fire splash patterns 

00:36:55 Talk about the family talking to officials after the fire 

00:40:46 Discussion of dealing with the death of pregnant mother 

00:43:10 Conclusion, Matthew Plote convicted for Murder  

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Deborah Frazier calls 911 and tells them two burglars have shot her boyfriend, and as she is on the phone, a gunshot is heard and Frazier tells the dispatcher she has been shot in the leg by one of the burglars.

Police arrive and discover the first person shot, Mr. Thomas Waddell, is in the back room of his apartment, wrapped in a blanket and a garbage bag and secured with duct tape.

On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will explain all of the things police will have to believe for Deborah Frazier's story to be true and Dave Mack will explain how Frazier was using a second boyfriend to con Mr Waddell out of his life savings!

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:42 Talk about everything that has to be believed for the story to be true 

00:02:48 Discussion of not believing a story 

00:04:20 Discussion of “victim” shooting her boyfriend in the head 

00:05:53 Talk about cases too difficult to believe 

00:10:54 Talk about self-inflicted gunshot wound 

00:14:19 Discussion of the victim who just retired 

00:18:54 Talk about determining how long person has been dead 

00:23:19 Discuss investigation of digital background 

00:28:34 Talk about GSR test 

00:33:02 Discussion of police on scene, gunshot recorded 

00:37:57 Discussion of what has to be believed by investigators 

00:40:12 Talk about Pictures of a life shared, scattered on the floor 

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Burned remains of a man found inside a foot locker and left in a blueberry field in Michigan were not identified for 13 years. In 2015 the case was called  "The Jack-in-the-Box Murder because it was a catchy title. The remains were not identified until the Ottawa County Sheriff's Office received a tip in 2015 that gave them the information they needed to use dental records to identify the deceased as Robert Caraballo. Investigating Caraballo's life at the time of his death took investigators to the home he shared with his wife and stepdaughter. Joseph Scott Morgan will break down the forensics that brought this case to a conclusion and Dave Mack will help tell the story of how the Jack-in-the-Box Murder became The Fugitive Wife Murder Trial. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:44 Introduction of story a burned body in a trunk found in blueberry field 

00:02:40 Talk about conspiracy and escaping to other side of the planet 

00:05:28 Discussion of victim being alive with hammer stuck in skull 

00:08:02 Discussion of injury caused by falling downstairs 

00:12:34 Talk about how remains could not be identified 

00:15:11 Discussion of evidence in hammer attack 

00:19:49 Discussion of hitting head with a hammer 

00:23:51Talk about how the skull breaks 

00:28:19 Discussion of destroying a body 

00:32:37 Discussion of “old school” identifying remains 

00:35:15 Talk about the plan to push victim down the stairs, hit him with a bat 

00:35:53 Talk about the conspiracy 

00:38:01 Discussion of law in Italy for hotel guests 

00:39:15 Discussion of cover-up 

00:40:06 Beverly McCallum guilty on all charges 

00:40:42 Talk about keeping a secret 

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Suicide or Murder?  Kendy Howard is found in a bathtub full of water with a gunshot wound to the head.  His body is cold, but the water in the tub is warm!  Red Flag number one.  On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will take a look at all of the "Red Flags" present in the reported suicide of Kendy Howard.  Why is there so little blood in the water? Why is her ex-trooper husband arrested at the airport? The biggest question of all, is the death of Kendy Howard a Suicide or Murder?

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:27 Joe talks about admiration for Troopers 

00:03:03 Discussion of law enforcement 

00:05:59 Discussion of “Red Flags” 

00:08:14 Talk about the water is warm, body is cold 

00:12:23 Investigation of suicide/murder 

00:16:33 Discussion of damage caused by gunshot in mouth 

00:17:49 Talk about direction of bullet 

00:21:26 Comparing murder of Travis Alexander 

00:25:53 Defining different types of asphyxiation 

00:30:08 Talk about injuries “frozen in time” 

00:35:33 Discussion of how much blood would be expected 

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The victim was alive when her head was cut from her body. As disturbing as that sounds, today's episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan will attempt to breakdown the just released autopsy report of Mei Li Haskell. Her husband, Samuel Haskell IV is accused of killing her, removing her head from her torso, placing the torso in a bag and dropping it in a trash bin where a homeless guy would find it 14 hours later! Joseph Scott Morgan will breakdown the forensics that will come into the trial and Dave Mack will dig deep in the Hollywood that can give us a true horror story that is scarier than anyone would ever dare put on film.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:49 The son of a hotshot 

00:03:04 “Don’t you know who I am?” 

00:05:03 Discussion of “the finder” 

00:08:58 Talk about the bags felt like meat 

00:09:26 Discussion of workers bring back bags 

00:12:20 Discussion of cross contamination 

00:16:58 Talk about hiring workers 

00:20:56 Discussion of what police can do 

00:26:22 Talk about the person who found the body 

00:30:54 Mentions victim’s parents still missing 

00:33:01 Discuss autopsy report, victim alive when head cut off 

00:38:20 Discussion of using power tools in dismemberment 

00:42:54 Mentions trial will be all forensics 

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Iris, 1, comes home from a weekend with her father and his girlfriend and mom finds a water bead in her diaper.

Taking her to the hospital, the toddler passes more water beads, button-shaped batteries, and a screw. Thinking she was finding things and putting them in her mouth, nobody realized a monster was watching the baby.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack break down the case that is more than the murder of a toddler, it's how evil came into the child’s life and plotted and planned her death for more than half of her life.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:20 Introduction 

00:02:39 Discussion of toddlers 

00:04:22 Talk about items in diaper 

00:07:34 Discussion of beads, batteries, screw 

00:10:12 Talk about toddlers putting things in their mouth 

00:14:34 Discussion of solvent 

00:16:18 Discussion of evil 

00:18:27 Talk about taking child to hospital by plane 

00:22:08 Explaining a subdural hematoma 

00:24:01 Discussion of optic nerves 

00:27:16 Talk about how healthy baby dies in 4 days 

00:30:15 Discussion of notes made by doctors and nurses 

00:32:54 Talk about children swallow everyday items 

00:35:31Discussion suspect researched how to beat a polygraph 

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Two severed heads, an arm here, a leg there, on this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan, the Reel Amityville Horror will meet the Real Amityville Horror.  A group of Long Island High School students find a severed left arm on the side of a road in Babylon on their way to school. While Police investigate the scene, a K-9 officer locates a leg sticking out of a pile of leaves in a wooded area, not far from the original scene. Over time more body parts were found in multiple areas. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will detail what was found and where and what the suspects were up against when they began writing their own Amityville Horror.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:07 Introduction – to horror 

00:01:39 Discussion about charges for dismembering a person 

00:04:48 Talk about how the bodies were treated in death 

00:08:03 Discussion of arm with tattoo found in tree limb 

00:11:51 Body part found by high school students on the way to school 

00:15:16 Parts of 2 bodies found, 4 people charged 

00:15:17 None of the 4 people is charged with murder 

00:16:14 Discuss what the ME will have to do with parts  

00:18:04 Talking about Black Dhalia  

00:19:49 Discussion of none of the drains work in the rental 

00:21:30 Discussion of body parts from more than one person 

00:25:11 Talk about unique case 

00:28:51 Joe describes investigation taking place 

00:31:30 Discussion of dismemberment  

00:34:01 Discussion of blood, muscle, skin, hair, Drano won’t work 

00:37:13 Talk about revisiting the case in the future 

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School Principal Cornelius Green arrives at the Amtrak train station in St. Louis after spending a few days in Chicago. Leaving the train station Green goes to straight to the apartment of his girlfriend, 3rd grade school teacher, Jocelyn Peters. Arriving at her apartment Green finds Peters, who is 7-months pregnant, in bed. He immediately calls 911 and tells them his girlfriend has been shot in the head, send help now! Jocelyn Peters is pronounced dead on the scene and the investigation begins with the person who found her, Cornelius Green. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will break down the story that leads to stolen school funds, a hitman, and a potato gun silencer, on this episode of Body Bags.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:57 Joe talks about the impact of 3rd grade teacher 

00:03:12 Discussion of victim 

00:08:54 Discussion of Green sending money to Cutler 

00:11:23 Talk about alibi set up by Green taking train to Chicago 

00:14:20 Discussion about finding pregnant woman shot in the head 

00:16:02 Talk about investigation, alibi  

00:19:50 Talk about no sign of forced entry 

00:23:18 Discussion of “potato silencer” 

00:28:12 Talking about objects changing trajectory 

00:32:30 Discussion of Federal and State charges  

00:36:29 Discuss Phillip Cutler in court 

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When Phillip Chism, 14, doesn't come home from school, his mother calls the police to report him missing.

As the town begins to look for the 9th grader, word spreads around town that a 24-year-old teacher, Colleen Ritzer, is also missing. Chism is found walking along a road just after midnight. After a quick search of his backpack,  he is arrested.

Later in the morning, Colleen Ritzer's body is found on school grounds, sexually positioned with a folded note next to her body that says, "I hate you all."

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack break down the story of the student from Tennessee and the horrifying final moments in the life of Colleen Ritzer.

Transcription Highlights 

00:01:00 Introduction of location, suspect, and victim 

00:02:53 Suspect is student, 14, victim is a teacher 

00:04:04 Discussion of suspect family 

00:08:22 Talk about motive and possible “trigger” 

00:11:49 Discussion of why victim went to public bathroom 

00:15:28 Discussion of witness and surveillance video 

00:19:07 Talk about investigation, pinging cell phones 

00:21:47 Discussion of suspect on surveillance video  

00:27:25 Talk about body being covered  

00:30:36 Breaking down the evidence 

00:34:35 Discussion of sentence 

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Christa Pike was 18-years-old when she thought her 19-year-old job corps classmate, Colleen Slemmer, was trying to steal her boyfriend, Tadaryl Shipp. Pike spent over 30-minutes beating Colleen Slemmer with her hands and feet, as well as a box cutter and a meat cleaver. Slemmer tried to escape. Shipp,17, caught her so Pike could continue the beating. Pike carved a pentagram into Slemmer's chest, used the box cutter to slice her throat. When she didn't die, Pike picked up a chunk of asphalt and slammed it onto Slemmer's head. The next day Pike brought a piece of Slemmer's skull to breakfast and told classmates what she had done. Convicted of murder and sentenced to death, Christa Pike now wants a judge to vacate her death sentence. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack detail the story that Joe Scott says is the worst case he has ever seen. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:31 Joseph Scott Morgan says he has never seen a crime so vile 

00:02:10 Woman on death row in Tennessee  

00:05:16 Talk about dynamic between suspects and victim 

00:10:09 Description of box cutter and meat cleaver  

00:15:03 Discussion of pentagram carved into chest 

00:20:56 Description of wounds to victim 

00:25:15 Talk about how to occult and satanism factor into case 

00:30:40 Description of taking piece of skull as a trophy 

00:35:50 Discussion about letting murderer out of prison 

00:39:15 Talk about sadistic murder 

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The senseless murder of Laken Riley on the campus of the University of Georgia has the nation talking about everything from safety on a college campus to immigration.

Laken Riley didn't know the man who killed her, but she knew she was in a dire situation when they met. Jose Antonio Ibarra, 26, allegedly attacked and killed the 22-year-old while she was out for a jog in Athens.

Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the evidence in the case points to Laken Riley attempting to call 911 and Dave Mack will fill in the blanks on the timeline on this edition of Body Bags.

Transcript Highlights

00:15.71 Joseph Scott Morgan talks about college life

02:39.50 Talk about nursing school, education

05:33.55 Discussion of victim 
 
09:56.27 Talk about timeline

14:03.73 Talk about seeing victim as an object

18:54.67 Discussion of blunt force trauma

22:13.70 Suspect arrives in USA illegally

31:20.86 Talk about apartment search

36:08.59 Discuss How suspect and victim were strangers

40:30.36 First Homicide at UGA in 30 years

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A Minnesota man claims his mistress fatally shot herself with his gun. The question of Murder or Suicide plays out in this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. Joe will walk you through all of the forensic problems with the story being told. And when everything is said and done, you decide, was it murder, or suicide?

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:20 Would a right-handed person use left hand to shoot 

00:02:19 Discuss murder or suicide 

00:04:15 Talk about “accidental” 

00:05:51Discuss science and determination 

00:11:16 How quick does a body become stiff 

00:13:50 Different jurisdictions 

00:18:25 Talk about the scene 

00:21:40 Difference in suicide among genders 

00:26:27Discuss drying blood 

00:29:31Discuss ER Nurse can’t do CPR 

00:33:14 Talk about short timeline 

00:38:50 Discuss can you wash away evidence? 

00:41:36 Talk about skin, brain, muzzle flash  

00:44:14 Discuss desire to help people and achieve and throw it all away 

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Audrii Cunningham leaves for the school bus stop just like every morning, but she doesn't get off the bus that afternoon. The family panics. 

Police are called, and an Amber Alert goes out. Neighbors go door to door. A family friend living in a camper in the backyard of Audrii's house joins in the search.

Police find out McDougal was the last person to see Audrii, when he was supposed to take her to the bus stop.  Audrii never got on the bus. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will break down the story of the search and ultimate discovery of 11-year-old Audrii Cunningham, found tied to a rock and thrown in the Trinity River in this edition of Body Bags.

Transcription highlights
00:20.72 Introduction of the case of Audrii Cunningham

01:54.67 Audrii's body tied to rock

03:57.40 Suspect was supposed to drive Audrii to bus stop05:50.16 Audrii was found in general area where her backpack was found

08:31.50 Officials had to ask for river flow to be reduced

12:08.84 Different groups have to share credit in finding Audrii

15:55.43 How will they figure out what McDougal did?

20:14.33 Investigators have not told us the condition of Audrii's body

24:14.42 Discussion of what may have happened to Audrii

28:09.19 Discussion of the company we keep, did her dad know what kind of criminal McDougal is

33:50.15 Talk about how her body may been like a kite on a string

38:07.95 Discussion about DNA under fingernails of Audrii

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Annabel Meenan was only 21, but she had been romantically involved with 33-year-old Leroy Brahm since she was in high school.

Their relationship was filled with abuse but on the final night of her life, video cameras placed around the home recorded every hit with a fist and kick with a foot. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will break down what happened when Leroy Brahm beat his girlfriend unconscious, dropped a couch on top of her, then laid down on the couch and went to sleep as the weight slowly crushed Annabel.

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:42 Discussion of age 

00:03:00 Talk about Annabel 

00:06:07 Victim had sofa dropped on her 

00:09:24 Talk about cameras recorded every punch 

00:13:38 Discuss the cameras everywhere 

00:18:51 Talk about contusions 

00:21:36 Discuss injuries suffered by the attacker 

00:23:54 Talk about evidence all over the house 

00:28:38 Discussion of ruling death a heart attack 

00:32:23 Surveillance cameras record everything 

00:35:37 Discuss domestic abuser calls 911 

00:37:23 Talk about Annabel is gone too young 

00:38:50 Domestic Abuse Hotline 

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Lacey Fletcher was on the volleyball team when she is in 9th grade, and she looks like any other healthy teen. But her parents say she is "on the spectrum" and take her out of school and take her home. For the next 20 years, they don't take their daughter to the doctor, they don't do anything with her until she becomes totally non-verbal. For the last 12 years of her life she didn't move from her spot on the couch, she slept in her spot, she ate in her spot, she went to the bathroom in her spot, and it was rarely cleaned. Lacey Fletcher dies at 36, after withstanding years of pain and suffering. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take a look behind the sofa to answer the questions about the woman who melted into the couch.

Transcript Highlights

00:02:40Talking about melting 

00:06:22 Talk about smell of urine, feces, nothing cleaned  

00:09:46 Talk about staying in same spot for years 

00:12:46 Discussion of healthy and active to dead on the couch 

00:15:14 Talk about Lacey Fletcher on the couch 20 years 

00:19:25 Discuss bed sores joining with other bed sores 

00:23:15 Talk about chronic bone infection  

00:27:17 Describing her condition at 36-years-old 

00:31:10 Discussion of weight as Lacey Fletcher weighed 96 pounds 

00:34:53 Talk about maggots in her body 

00:38:56 How did Lacey Fletcher get covid? 

00:42:01 Discussion – she is non-verbal, always in pain, and trapped 

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Harmony Montgomery was missing for two years before anyone looked for her. Police began looking for a 7-year-old girl and soon realized they might really be looking for remains of a 5-year-old girl. She is still among the missing but presumed dead. Her father is on trial for her murder. Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they investigate the heartbreaking story of a little girl who never had a chance, and the forensics that just might get justice for her yet. 

Transcript Highlights

01:34.45 Joe talks about memory 

04:22.26 Discussion of years since Harmony has been seen 

07:22.44 Talk about Harmony, looked nervous 

10:09.25 Harmony was never enrolled in school 

14:36.89 Discussion of police find Harmony's Dad 

20:32.13 Talk about moment of clarity 

25:22.45 Discussion of what really happened to Harmony 

31:02.25 Discussion of waiting 2 years to call about child 

35:18.87 Discussion about life lived in a car 

38:25.26 Talk about neither adult checking on Harmony 

43:49.54 Discussion of carrying Harmony 

45:43.17 Finally went too far, hit too hard 

50:51.68 Discussion perfect hiding spot was found 

54:25.15 Discussion about how body is stored 

59:33.43 Talk about using bathtub for dismemberment 

59:19.23 Discussion of what might be found of Harmony 

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The new owners of a house in Colorado are pleasantly surprised to find the previous owners left behind a working freezer in the garage. Pleasure turns to horror as they begin removing bags of frozen meat, and find a human head and hands! Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will explain what it will take to solve the mystery. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:27Talk about gruesome discovery 

00:02:05 Discussion of yard sale 

00:02:58 Talk about hoarder 

00:04:10 Talk about free working freezer 

00:07:36 Discussion of frozen head 

00:09:23 Talk about getting more than you bargained for 

00:11:21Discussion of calling 911 

00:14:27Discussion about dismemberment show 

00:18:17 Talk about previous homeowners 

00:21:23Discussion about finding the rest of the body 

00:24:28 Neighborhood people talk about coroner on site 

00:27:49 Discussion about all the items that left the area 

C00:30:47Discussion of wrapping the head 

00:33:51Talk about investigation of body parts 

00:37:43 Discussion about freezer slowing decomposition 

00:39:25 We're going to need to follow up on this case. 

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Jeff and Kat West are a typical American couple living just south of Birmingham Alabama. They have a 12-year-old daughter, Jeff works in security, Kat is a stay at home mom, but she has developed a very successful online business, in adult entertainment. She posts sexy photos on multiple sites and has her own pay site that provides even more adult photos. Jeff often takes the photos for his wife, and she is becoming quite popular online. Everything seems fine when Jeff and Kat go out for date night, photos of the couple in a store that evening show them lovingly touching one another.  How is it possible that the next morning as the sun comes up, Kat West's lifeless body is found laying out in the front yard of her house with a bottle of absinthe placed on her broken phone right next to her posed body. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take you through the last night in the life of Kat West. 

Transcribe Highlights 

00:00:05 Origin of things 

00:01:46 Talk about a different kind of fairy 

00:02:29 Discussion of life 

00:03:16 Talk about very special drink 

00:05:59 Discussion setting up a scene 

00:10:54 Talk about date night 

00:12:50 Discussion strong alcohol 

00:16:48 Talk about Jeff and Kat playful at store 

00:19:42 Discussion of intimate photos, sharing 

00:22:32 Talk theory Jeff West beat his wife 

00:25:32 Discussion of Stalkers  

00:29:37 Talk tiny details in investigation 

00:34:02 Discussion of two primary spots of blood 

00:38:58 Talk about holding bottle as weapon 

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A road crew in south west Georgia finds on old console tv at an illegal dumpsite on the side of a country highway. As they try to move the tv, the workers find a suitcase inside, and it is too heavy to just be filled with clothes. As they open the suitcase they open up a mystery that will last decades. Inside the suitcase is cement, and poking out of the cement, the body of a small child. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will help tell the story of Baby Jane Doe, the girl thrown away like garbage, and the people who spent 35-years trying to find out her name. 

Transcribe Highlights 

00:00:37 Trash Dump off the side of road 

00:01:46 Talk about abandoned child  

00:02:29 Discussion of life 

00:03:16 Talk about the case, started in 1988 

00:05:59 Discussion of area 

00:10:54 Talk about getting body out of cement 

00:13:30 Discussion of cement wouldn’t encase everything 

00:16:48 Talk about mixing concrete and body 

00:19:42 Evidence at scene leads to home 

00:22:32 Talk about body breaking down in cement 

00:25:32 Discussion of investigators  

00:28:37 Talk about technology catching up  

00:31:02 This case hasn’t been to trial yet 

00:33:58 Talk about Genetic Genealogy 

00:35:39 Discussion can there be justice  

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Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will tell the story of a murder and why the man convicted of the murder will be put to death in a very unique way.

Kenneth Eugene Smith was convicted of the 1988 murder-for-hire of Elizabeth Sennett. Pastor Charles Sennett recruited Billy Gray Williams to kill his wife Elizabeth and Williams hired John Forrest Parker and Kenneth Eugene Smith to carry out the murder. A week after the murder, Charles Sennett confessed to his family and then shot himself in the head.

Williams, Parker, and Smith were arrested, charged and convicted. Williams was sentenced to life and died in prison in 2020. Parker and Smith were sentenced to death. Parker was executed by lethal injection in 2010. Smith was scheduled to be executed in November of 2022 but the execution team was unable to connect the intravenous lines before time ran out.

After much debate, the state agreed not to try lethal injection again on Smith but would instead use a method of execution: Nitrogen Hypoxia. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what it is and why it is being tried for the first time...ever.

Transcript Highlights  

00:02:29 Joe talks about travel 

00:05:55 Talk Investigation of murder 

00:06:41 Talk about experience as death investigator 

00:08:37 Discuss sharing PTSD 

00:12:18 Talk about nitrogen  

00:14:21 Discussion Death Penalty 

00:18:56 Talk about execution used to be public  

00:21:30 Discussion about new method 

00:23:13 Talk about the Crime  

00:25:51 Talk Murder-for-Hire plot 

00:27:31 Discussion public execution 

00:30:24 Talk about the debate to come 

00:35:17 Discussion Is there a “best way” to kill somebody 

00:38:22 Talk about assisted suicide 

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What really happened when four lifelong friends gathered to watch their Chiefs play the Chargers?

After the game, one guy goes to sleep inside and his three friends go outside and die in the backyard. And for two days their bodies lay frozen while their friend continues to sleep inside, ignoring calls and texts from friends and family worried about their loved ones.

And WHY are the police called to do a "welfare check" when there are three dead men in the backyard?

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack cover the story inside and out to find out what happened when four friends gather to cheer for their favorite team, and three end up dead in the backyard.

Transcript Highlights  

00:02:29 Joe shares childhood memories 

00:05:55 Talk Saints Football 

00:06:41 Discussion watching football 

00:08:37 Discuss NFL fans 

00:12:18 Talk about friends  

00:14:21 Discussion weather, first night not cold 

00:18:56 Talk about working multiple deaths 

00:21:30 Discussion about “mystery person” 

00:23:13 Discuss medical issue, hypothermia 

00:25:51 Talk is it possible to sleep 48 hours? 

00:27:31 Discussion of how come they guys didn’t break-in? 

00:31:21 Talk about calling it a “welfare check” 

00:35:17 Discussion Jordan Willis is brilliant scientist 

00:40:35 Talk Jordan Willis talks to police without lawyer 

00:45:21 Discussion of Fentanyl 

48:30.84 No Trauma, no gunshots, 3 dead 

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When Connecticut mother-of-5 Jennifer Dulos suddenly vanished, the world stopped to look. While the world was looking for the missing mom, her estranged husband, Fotis Dulos, and his girlfriend, Michelle Troconis, drove around town dropping off bags of trash in public trash bins. Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down the story of the missing mom and the people who betrayed her.

Transcript Highlights  

00:02:29 Joe shares childhood memories 

00:05:55 Talk about family  

00:06:41 Discussion of Troconis trial  

00:08:37 Discussion of Dulos marriage 

00:12:18 Discussion of what the Nanny notices 

00:14:21 Talk about paper towels used to clean 

00:18:56 Talk about police body cam footage 

00:21:30 Discussion of testimony 

00:23:13 Talk about several types of tests 

00:25:51 Talk about stains and what they mean 

00:27:31 Discussion of blood drops 

00:29:42 Description of different cast-off blood trails 

00:31:21 Joe talks about blood 

00:35:17 Discussion about determining death 

00:40:35 Talk about blood and DNA locations 

00:45:21 Discussion of amount of blood 

00:50:38 Joe talks about suicide 

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Alec Baldwin has been indicted again for Involuntary Manslaughter. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will pull back the curtain on the "Rust" movie set and explain what really happened, who is lying, and will there ever be justice. Should somebody go to jail, or was it a horrible accident? Listen and decide for yourself.

Transcript Highlights  

00:01:29 Describing the shooting location 

00:04:45 Talk about the victims 

00:05:31 Discussion of responsibility on set 

00:08:37 Joe talks about being a producer 

00:11:08 Talk about armorer 

00:13:45 Discussion Alec Baldwin charged 

00:15:38 Joe breaks down angles of shot 

00:21:00 Talk about producer role on set 

00:22:44 Dave tells story about loaded gun in house 

00:24:59 Discussion of handling a gun 

00:27:21 Talk about Baldwin interview about shooting 

00:29:24 Joe talks forensic science ballistics 

00:31:48 Discussion of accountability 

00:34:07 Talk about shooting cases 

00:40:48 Joe talks about the 44 Magnum 

00:45:37 Description of shooting of Brandon Lee 

00:48:18 Discussion about handling firearms on set 

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The last thing Linda Frickey heard as she lay beaten, bruised, with her arm ripped off her body, was a friendly voice saying, "we'll pray for you,"

The 73-year-old woman was the victim of a carjacking that was pre-planned by a group of 4 thugs in New Orleans, the oldest only 17 years old. Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they go behind the headlines on the story of a loving grandmother that died in a gruesome way, with her arm torn off her body. But witnesses ask; Where's the blood?

Transcript Highlights  

00:01:29 Talk about Grandmothers 

00:04:45 Joe doesn’t want his hometown tarnished  

00:05:31 Discussion about Carjacking 

00:08:37 Talk about 18-year-old taking a life 

00:10:20 Joe talks about living in this area of NOLA 

00:11:08 Discussion about witnesses 

00:13:45 Talk about ringleader John Honore 

00:15:38 Talk about being dragged two blocks  

00:21:00 Talk about criminals attacked woman from behind 

00:22:44 Discussion of being stuck, drug down the block  

00:24:59 Discussion having arm ripped off your body 

00:27:21 Talk about how witness covered her body 

00:29:24 Discussion of damage done to police officer drug in similar way 

00:31:48 Talk about the last thing Mrs. Frickey heard was “we’re praying for you 

00:34:07 Discussion of what happened to the blood? 

00:40:48 Talk about determining cause of death 

00:45:37 Talk about how Mrs. Frickey was beaten in car, then drug down street 

00:48:18 Discussion about CCTV cameras 

00:49:44 Suspect has been sentenced to prison 

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The death of Jeffrey Epstein has been debated since the minute it was announced to the world. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will share what it was like to be on the air with the news and notice "red flags" as certain parts of the death story didn't seem to be correct.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will break down the death of Jeffrey Epstein. Did Jeffrey Epstein commit suicide, or was he murdered? 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:17 Joe hears story about where the meanest men in America live 

00:04:47 Joseph Scott Morgan talks about covering Epstein death 

00:08:23 Discuss first attack/suicide attempt  

00:11:45 Talk about unusual circumstances 

00:14:37 Discuss conflicting statements about noose 

000:17:15 Talk about Epstein allowed unmonitored phone call  

00:18:23 Discuss no cellmate to attack or stop suicide 

00:20:33 Talk about two nooses in the cell 

00:22:42 Discussion of cell condition and contents 

00:25:49 Talk about July 23rd event 

00:29:25 Discuss observing body at time of death 

00:32:25 Talk about putting hospital gown on Epstein 

00:34:03 Mark Epstein told his brother may have been dead 2 hours or more 

00:37:40 Talk about Epstein body wheeled into hospital 

00:40:34 Discussion of hyoid bone 

00:42:05 Discuss facts of the body at time of death 

00:44:24 Discuss agreement overturned regarding suicide 

00:45:14 Talk about autopsy, who was present 

00:47:00 Discuss distribution of force 

00:48:16 Mentions that noose wasn't collected for evidence. 

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When a panicked husband calls 911 for help saying his wife has overdosed the first officer on the scene notices some pretty big red flags.

The forensics tell the story of what killed Maria Munoz, but Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will dig deeper to find out what really happened to a Texas mom with a penchant for writing in her journal, about everything. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:29 Talk about nurses, great investigators 

00:03:21 Discussion of body cam 

00:04:45 Talk about scene, shadows 

00:05:31 Talk about what police expect based on 911 call 

00:06:55 Discussion of relationship  

00:08:37 Talk about surgery, different duties 

00:10:20 Talk about steroid use 

00:11:08 Talk about husband being suspicious 

00:12:06 Discussion of red flags 

00:13:45 Talk about husband pockets pill bottle 

00:15:38 Talk about medicine bottle on scene 

00:21:00 Talk about medical pro letting police officer take over cpr 

00:22:44 Discussion of husband talking to police 

00:24:59 Discussion of Police body cam 

00:27:21 Talk about how to find needle hole in arm 

00:29:24 Discussion of suspect  

00:31:48 Talk about scenes involving drugs 

00:34:07 Discussion of home dynamics 

00:35:55 Discussion of medical careers 

00:40:48 Talk about tox screen  

00:43:52 Discussion of toxicology report 

00:45:37 Talk about how drugs were used 

00:48:18 Discussion about Maria diary entries 

00:49:44 Diary and Toxicology gave jury no choice 

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Savanah Soto, 18, and her boyfriend Matthew Guerra, 22, are reported missing the day before Savanah is to have labor induced for their baby. Their car is found, and Savanah is found dead in the front passenger seat with Matthew shot to death in the back seat.On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack break down the truth from fiction in the saddest story from what should be the happiest of times. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:54 Talk about having a child 

00:03:23 Talk about responsibility 

00:05:53 Discussion of age of victims 

00:07:49 Talk about family dynamic  

00:09:24 Discussion about safety 

00:12:53 Talk about location of bodies in the car 

00:14:33 Discussion of Matthew being drug into back seat 

00:16:12 Discussion of what long hair means to crime scene 

00:18:42 Talk about where victims were murdered 

00:19:46 Windows in the kia are dark 

00:22:01 What is being said between truck driver and kia? 

00:23:48 Discussion of people traveling with body in car 

00:25:52 Baby is autopsied too 

00:26:59Talk about Baby birth after death 

00:28:23 Talk about Matthew identified quickly 

00:32:36 Kia Optima located 

00:34:58 Phone Pings will help find more cameras 

00:35:55 Talk about bad cameras, great picture of suspects 

00:37:01 Discussion of DNA that will likely be found 

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The Idaho house where Madison Mogen , Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin were murdered has been demolished.   Prosecution and Defense were both in agreement about the resident being demolished before the trial.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they discuss what might be missed and who might be helped by the biggest pieced of evidence being destroyed. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:08 Talk about why the odd shaped home had to come down 

00:02:18 Discussion about destroying house before trial 

00:03:47 Compare being able to visit the home of Lizzie Borden 

 00:05:47 Discussion of taking down horrible crime scenes 

00:08:33 Comparing evidence like knife to house, would a picture of knife be sufficient 

00:09:06 Discussion of both sides in agreement in taking building down 

00:11:28 Talk about how to tell if someone could hear noise from top to bottom of house 

00:13:36 Discussion of first-person perspective 

00:15:48 Discussion of Parkland scene 

00:17:42 Talk about taking jury to crime scene 

00:19:26 Discussion of house layout – would killer have to be familiar 

00:20:39 Talk about moving around rooms in the dark 

00:21:53 Discussion about seeing size of rooms and 'ear' witness

00:24:15 Talk about effective documentation 

00:26:23 Discussion about where suspect entered home 

00:27:07 Discussion about room size 

00:29:51 Talk about dynamic distribution of blood, being able to see it in context 

00:31:32 Discussion of Jeffrey MacDonald case, jury saw murder scene in house 

00:32:4 Talk about without house, no way to know where sound would go 

00:33:51 Discussion comparing Gettysburg site to a house 

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Timothy Ferguson's mother calls police. Her son is unresponsive. Timothy Ferguson is also 15-years-old weighing just 69 pounds when he died of malnutrition and hypothermia. 

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they detail -Timothy Ferguson's painful life at the hands of his evil mother and brother. The teen lives on a diet of water and bread soaked in hot sauce,  followed by ice baths.   

Transcript Highlights

00:00:00 Joseph Scott Morgan shares memories of Grandmother cooking chicken 

00:04:15 Discussion of Timothy Ferguson, 15, starved to death by his mother

00:05:37 Discussion of food being used as mechanism for torture

00:06:52 Talk about Shanda Vander Ark fled Oklahoma with children

00:08:56 Explanation of how using food as a ‘kindness’ 

00:11:05 Talk about dark choices made by Shanda Vander Ark regarding her son 

00:13:05 Discussion of Timothy’s older brother Paul being involved in the abuse

00:14:51 Joseph Scott Morgan describes “impact: injury – slapped, punched.

00:15:28 Talk about how common that one child will be chosen for abuse while other siblings abuse victim as well 

00:16:14 Discussion about abuse,  malnutrition impossible to hide

00:17:15 How to determine how long Timothy was abused

00:18:35 Description - malnutrition can “stunt growth”. 

00:20:40 Discussion of Shanda Vander Ark Defense, claims she had PTSD

00:21:51 Joseph Scott Morgan explains how Timothy Ferguson was digesting his own fat cells due to malnutrition 

00:22:58 Timothy Ferguson’s body already compromised 

00:26:41 Timothy Ferguson was given bread and water, and hot sauce for torture 

00:27:56 Talk about hot sauce “Carolina Reaper” being placed on bread for Ferguson to eat 

00:29:00 Discussion of Timothy Ferguson being kept in tiny room under stairs, developing bed sores 

00:30:56 Description of Timothy Ferguson breathing out of his mouth like fish out of water 

00:32:09 Discussion of Ice Bath’s used to punish Timothy Ferguson 

00:33:28 Timothy Ferguson never recovered from last Ice Bath, cause of death – hypothermia and malnutrition 

00:36:02 Discussion of food – mother chained refrigerator and cabinets in kitchen 

00:38:00 Verdict - Shanda Vander Ark, guilty of murder, son Paul guilty of Child Abuse 

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The opioid crisis has brought death and devastation to families all over the world and fentanyl has only made things worse. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will take a close look at three very different cases involving fentanyl that all have the same end result, death. A wife allegedly uses fentanyl as a weapon to kill her husband, a 20-year-old faces second-degree murder for giving a teen girl a pill with fentanyl, and a toddler is dead when he comes into contact with fentanyl in his daycare. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Discussion: To be free from pain. 

00:01:44 Talk about from Tylenol to Fentanyl  

00:02:53 Discussion of population desiring to be free from pain, self-medicating  

00:04:43 Talk about the opioid crisis 

00:07:28 Discussion about the strength of fentanyl  

00:10:16 Joe points out how fentanyl can be pressed into other drugs 

00:11:51 Description of what an overdose from opioid looks like 

00:13:01 Discussing three fentanyl related cases today; Kouri Richins, NYC daycare, and 15-year-old dead from pill 

00:14:38 Talk about murder charge in death of 15-year-old girl

00:16:46 Discussion of coroner ruling drug overdose as a “homicide” 

00:18:35 Talk about California case, 15-year-old dies from fentanyl 

00:22:35 Discussion of pills made in a garage rather than a laboratory 

00:23:43 Talk about a 22-month-old child in a daycare exposed to fentanyl 

00:26:49 Discussion of “binders” used in making the pills

00:28:48 Description of toddlers in daycare with fentanyl kept directly underneath “nap mats” 

00:30:58 Fentanyl used as weapon, tasteless, odorless 

00:32:36 Talk about Kouri Richins alleged attempts to poison husband 

00:34:33 How to determine if drug was taken as recreation or used as weapon 

00:36:01 Discussion of opioid deaths 

00:38:36 Talk about tox screen 

00:40:28 Discussion of Fentanyl and therapeutic levels  

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When Camille Balla calls a coworker and says "I think I killed my mother", the coworker calls 911 on her way to Balla's mother's house. Police find a scene straight out of a horror movie as the follow a blood splatter trail leading to the body of Francisca Monteiro-Balla. Checking the body for vitals an officer notices something on a box a few feet away. It isn't something anyone expects to see, two eyeballs, sitting on a box, appearing to watch the officers as they try to save the life of Francisca Monteiro-Balla.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they take a close-up look at a case that is just as scary and strange at the beginning as it is in the end. 

Transcript Highlights

00:01:26 Joseph Scott Morgan compares Lewis Powell screaming “I am Mad” to  
Camille Balla screaming “I am a murderer” 

00:02:50 Talk about Police arrive to scene and find woman’s eyes removed 

00:04:05 Dave Mack breaks down story of Camille Balla calls co-worker and tells her “I think I killed my mother” 

00:06:12 Talk about County Jail versus prison 

00:08:05 Discussion about Camille Balla screaming “I’m a murderer” 

00:10:08 Discussion of bloody crime scene, eyeballs removed from victim, placed on cardboard box 

00:11:25 Describing difference between blood “spatter” and blood “splatter” 

00:13:46 Discussion about victim’s injuries 

00:16:01 Talk about the fight between mother and daughter, and eyeballs removed from victim 

00:17:56 Joe describes removal of eyeball 

00:20:37 Discussion of suspect removing eyes from the front 

00:22:43 Talk about Camille Balla claims to have smoked marijuana laced with Flocka prior to attack on her mother 

00:26:12 Discussion of charges being reduced from First-Degree Murder to Manslaughter 

00:28:34 Talk about broken glass around scene, blood from perpetrator and victim co-mingled making thing forensically more complicated 

00:29:06 Camille Balla pleaded guilty to manslaughter, sentenced to 15-years in prison followed by 15-years on probation.  

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An adult female body is found outside of Council Bluffs city limits. The body was found with bruises all over her body, a large laceration on her head, her body was  found frozen to the ground. Also, her face is missing. The body is of a woman who has been missing for 11 days, 60-year-old Ilene Gowan. Investigators will use everything at their disposal to determine how the grandmother ended up dead in a ditch without her face, and who is responsible for her death.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they breakdown a case that includes forensics of a frozen body as well as the latest video surveillance tools that creates a timeline that builds a map leading right to the killer.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:06 Joseph Scott Morgan talks about scene of crime 

00:02:42 Victim 60-year-old woman, without a face 

00:04:00 Talk about victim and suspect relationship 

00:06:22 Brammer does not report girlfriend missing 

00:07:44 Talk about remains being discarded like trash 

00:09:48 Discussion about alcohol and relationships  

00:11:21 Victim is missing for 11 days  

00:12:49 Talk about remains still frozen at autopsy 

00:16:46 Discussion of weather on decomposition  

00:18:32 Talk about arriving to scene of crime 

00:22:54 Discussion about Pathologist in the field  

00:24:01 Victim face is missing 

00:27:19 Timeline: victim last seen on 13, reported missing on 15th 

00:30:37 Discussion of Post-Mortem and Anti-Mortem 

00:31:36 Video evidence of Brammer in truck with victim 

00:33:34 Discussion of victim cause of death 

00:34:39 Talk about wounds 

00:37:10 Discussion about Dr. Michael Baden brought in for second opinion 

00:38:50 Brammer deposits $1,500 in his bank account day Ilene is reported missing 

00:39:46 Discussion about face missing due to animal life 

00:41:46 Brammer has truck crushed and shredded 

00:42:08 Brammer was found guilty of second-degree murder, abuse of a corpse, and second-degree theft. 

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In Battle Creek, Michigan, Chad Allen Reed is the owner of a property. He lives on the bottom floor and rents out the top floor. He complains to everyone about the couple renting his upstairs,  Joe Soule and Jaclyn Lepird are loud at night and Reed doesn't like it. When Joe and Jaclyn vanish, everyone is looking for them, except for Chad Allen Reed. He is too busy trying to hide what he has done. His property burns 5 times in 7 days but Chad Allen Reed is being haunted by the smell. Two bodies, wrapped in plastic, hidden in the back of a pickup truck. When nobody solves the mystery of what happened to Joe Soule and Jaclyn Lepird, Chad Allen Reed calls the tip line himself, and tells them what happened!

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack  break down the story of the Murdering Landlord and find out what evidence is left behind when two people are murdered on grass in a yard. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:07 Joseph Scott Morgan shares a renting nightmare  

00:04:23 discussion of landlord complaining about tenant 

00:05:20 Joe talks about trauma and evidence left behind at the scene 

00:07:58 Landlord confronted tenants over noise  

00:10:37 Discussion of the matter of cutting and bludgeoning someone 

00:12:25 Talk about postmortem interval  

00:13:23 Chad Allen Read shoots Joe Soule, shoots Jaclyn Lepird in the back 

00:15:38 Discussion about Read beating Lepird with a pipe 

00:16:37 Joe explains “Bullet Wipe” 

00:18:32 Discussion about evidence left in yard 

00:19:42 Talk about 2 people missing 

00:21:51 Evidence left behind by 2 victims 

00:23:31 Explanation of how bodies are examined in morgue 

00:25:44 Discussion about perpetrators not putting distance between themselves and their victims 

00:27:49 Bodies wrapped in plastic create more evidence 

00:29:18 Talk about 5 fires in 7 days  

00:30:13 Chad Allen Read calls the tipline himself 

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Joseph Scott Morgan takes you on a trip to Louisiana, and a young couple, tied up, with kettlebells tied to their feet, being driven up a high bridge, and pushed out at the apex, not to die from falling 10 stories, but to drown after the fall.

Join Joe Scott Morgan and Dave Mack for a show that stretches from Louisiana to Atlanta, a recording studio, a Walmart,  a side hustle in prison, and great police work to bring to justice the evil that wants to be a star.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:46 Talk about Gravity = the dominant force in our life. 

00:02:09 Talk about Gravity, leading up a bridge 

00:03:13Discussion about murder by drowning 

00:03:54 Talk about being In Louisiana. 

00:05:21 the death of Lakeitha and Kenneth Joseph. 

00:06:16 Couple missing three weeks 

00:07:14 Talk about searching for missing couple 

00:08:55 Discussion of levels of grief 

00:11:52 Joe shares knowledge of the geography of the area 

00:14:22 Talk about “prune” fingers as a child in pool 

00:15:02 The lake is brackish, salt and fresh 

00:17:14 Is it possible to determine how long a body has been in water? 

000:20:58 Kenneth borrows a van, becomes big clue 

00:24:37 Police work: Kettle Bells branded by golds gym, only at Walmart 

00:25:46 How long does it take for a body to come to surface 

00:28:42 Discussion about rope 

00:30:12 Talk about Lakeitha leg being broken 

00:31:31 Discussion of kettle bells 

00:35:19 Talk about bodies in water 

00:36:40 Borrowed van turns up in Atlanta 

00:37:44 Discussion about Rapper managed by ex-convict 

00:39:44 Prison Guard in relationship with prisoner 

00:41:56 Murdered for being a witness 

00:43:06 Talk about worst way to die 

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A family moves to the country to get away from the crime of the big city only to find that evil exists in small towns and big cities alike. A 17-year-old girl develops a close bond to a harmless older neighbor. But the harmless old man is really a wolf in sheeps clothing and when the 17-year-old goes missing the neighbor helps look as hard as anyone. As long as nobody comes to his house to look too close. For 173 days the girl is missing, her heartbroken parents don't realize she is only 100 feet away from their front door. Buried in a homemade box, just for her. 

Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the case of the teen girl hidden away in a homemade coffin and how difficult it will be to get the evidence to determine what really caused her death. Dave Mack joins in on the search for facts, and Valerie Tindall.

Transcript 

00:01:02 Discussion of 173 days without knowing location of your child 

00:02:26 Valerie Tindall, 17, and missing 

00:03:29 Mother said Patrick Scott acted like jealous boyfriend 

00:04:21 Discussion of age difference 

00:06:55 Valerie Tindall is missing 

00:10:00 Talk about Forensic Anthropology 

00:11:28 Disturbed areas of soil in backyard  

00:12:30 17-year-old girl bonds with 59-year-old man, odd 

00:13:22 What does FBI mean to a case 

00:14:32 The neighbor Valerie has “bond” with charged with lying to police 

00:16:03 Discussion of providing false hope to lure out suspect 

00:17:24 Investigators wonder if someone is helping her stay gone 

00:18:29 Victim has been missing since June 

00:22:24 Bright Orange fingernail polish Valerie Tindall was wearing 

00:23:29 Taking down a structure, burning, why? 

00:27:17 Talk about the VHS tapes found in box 

00:29:11 Discussion of murder weapon, a belt 

00:30:56 Suspect claims he is the victim?  

00:32:29 Discussion about condition of the body  

00:33:39 Why did the suspect dig holes in his property? 

00:35:17 Talk about the story from the suspect does not make sense 

00:36:35 Some evidence might have been lost  

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Ezra Ralston, 29, moves in with his grandparents on their beautiful property on the water in the Pacific Northwest, and repays their love and kindness by coming up with a plan to create a commune on his grandparents property. The only thing he needs to do is kill his grandparents and steal their property to make his dreams come true.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they take an in-depth look at death, fire, and the lies of Ezra Ralston on this episode of Body Bags.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:19 Joe Talks about finding save place for your family 

00:01:18 Grandparents welcome 29-year-old grandson 

00:02:15 Discussion about early 70s 

00:03:47 Talk about the murder of Grandparents 

00:04:46 Discussion of fire and explosion 

00:06:16 Talk about arson, murder, investigation 

00:09:02 Discussion about origin of fire in the house 

00:11:05 Joe shares insight into recurring nightmare  

00:13:09 Talk about finding the bodies of Joanna Gormley and Ted Ralston. 

00:17:40 Discussion about gasoline used in fire 

00:19:14 Joe explains assessing the bodies 

00:23:02 Explaining what happens working a fire scene 

00:24:54 Discussion of when to examine bodies 

00:26:36 Looking around a fire scene is very confusing 

00:27:47 Talk about the victims' wounds 

00:32:03 Talk about plan to kill victims in their sleep 

00:35:45 Ezra Ralston being encouraged by girlfriend 

00:37:04 Discussion of using bleach to get rid of evidence 

00:39:15 Fire creates more evidence 

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Oscar Pistorius became famous for not allowing a handicap to stand in his way of track and field success.

After becoming a Paralympic Champion, he fought his way through the courts to be allowed to compete in non-disabled competitions. In 2012, he competed in the Summer Olympics in London and became one of the most famous people in the world, earning the nickname "Blade Runner" for the prosthetic legs he uses to run.

Less than six months after the Olympic Games, Pistorius claims he hears a noise in the middle of the night and thinks someone is breaking in, but what happens next lands him in jail,  charged with murder!

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down the case of Oscar Pistorius. Did he kill his girlfriend in cold blood or was it a horrible mistake?

Transcript Highlights:  

00:01:11 Oscar Pistorius getting out of prison 

00:03:11 Pistorius fought to compete in non-disabled competition 

00:04:02 Discussion of who Oscar Pistorius is and his fame at the time of this incident 

00:06:58 Discussion of legs being amputated at 11 months old 

00:10:56 How to figure out directionality of weapons that are fired 

00:12:40 Pistorius and Steenkamp had dated only 90 days 

00:13:45 Body Bags and Domestic Disputes 

00:14:52 Discussion of waking up, hearing something 

00:16:05 Pistorius claims he heard things, overcome with fear 

00:17:37 Talk about Pistorius and guns 

 00:19:15 What happens when victim is in bathroom?  

00:21:51 He claims that he shot her after he had put his legs on. 

00:22:06 Story told by Pistorius doesn’t match facts  

00:24:12 Discussion of victim being shot through the door 

00:25:57 Discussion of stomach contents of victim  

00:26:15 Time of morning, 3:19am 

00:26:41Said there were four quick shots.  

00:28:14 Did he retrieve his legs at this point in time and come back to? 

00:29:34 Talk about scene, towels, debris, trying to stop bleeding 

00:30:29 Discussion of the Blades giving him and advantage 

000:31:33 Pistorius remains on scene, in kitchen, should have been in back of squad car 

00:32:26 Three components in gunshot residue. We look for antimony, we look for barium and we look for lead. 

00:33:43 Talk about prosthetics and if he had them on  

00:34:38 Discussion about suspect is not in charge of investigation 

00:35:35 Pistorius claims he kept her airway open with his fingers 

00:36:35.Pistorius is scheduled to be released from custody in January of 2024

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Dylan Redwine is forced to spend Thanksgiving with his father in Colorado. He doesn't want to be there because he knows some things about his father, secret, disgusting things, and he just doesn't want to be around him. But due to his parent divorce he has to go. Dylan Redwine goes missing, his dad suggests a bear might have got him. It takes time, but in the end, Forensics will tell the entire story of what happened to Dylan Redwine.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down a story that took years to finish and includes blood, sex, knives, and bones. 

Time Code Highlights. 

00:01:40 Redwine Murder was one of the first Joseph Scott Morgan covered in media 

00:04:00 Dylan must go to his father’s house in Colorado for Thanksgiving  

00:05:08 Mark Redwine house burned down previously

00:07:03 Discussion of children of divorce, Dylan did not want to be with his father 

00:08:20 Talk about pictures Dylan and his brother saw on their dad’s computer

00:09:30 Joe talks the information he was given to cover story on network show

00:11:03 Pictures of Mark Redwine in lingerie, makeup, eating out of diaper 

00:13:09 Joe tells story of being embarrassed comparing it to how Mark Redwine was embarrassed his children found out about secret pictures 

00:15:00 Discussion about the boys confronting their father over his pictures 

00:16:50 Talk about Mark Redwine responding to Corey about the pictures

00:19:25 Joe talks about Mark Redwine being humiliated and angry 

00:20:45 Redwine claims he went to store, Dylan was gone when he got back

00:21:35 Discussion about Corey Redwine being several years older than Dylan 

00:22:45 Talk about forensics and how nothing is ever hidden 

00:24:04 Joe talks about a dog finding blood in the home

00:26:05 Blood from Dylan would have to have been from recent visit

00:30:04 Joe talks about a murder case without a body 

00:31:00 Both femurs of Dylan Redwine found 8 miles from Mark Redwine home 

00:32:43 Bones found on a road could have been drug by an animal

00:34:14 Determining whether the bones were separated by human using tools 

00:36:05 Talk about Mark Redwine mentioning something to a friend about blunt force trauma and they would need to find his head 

00:37:45 Dylan Redwine skull found 

00:39:00 No animals in the area that would drag remains up the mountain 

00:40:10 Talk about surface deposition 

00:41:05 Mark Redwine said Dylan may have been attacked by a bear.  

00:43:50 What the skull tells investigators. Took several months to identify 

00:45:12 Joe explains using sinus for identification 

00:46:45 Skull fractures show blunt force trauma. Two linear marks consistent with a knife blade found on skull. 

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Nohema Graber is a beloved Spanish teacher in the small town of Fairfield, Iowa. When she goes missing during her everyday after school walk in the park, the small town is worried. When her body is found in the park, hidden under a tarp, the town of less than 10,000 is shocked. Shock turns to disgust when police arrest two 16-year-old students for the murder after one of them writes on snapchat about the planning, execution, and disposal of evidence.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down the story of Nohema Graber, a beloved teacher who deserved a much better fate and the two 16-year-olds that broke the heart of a small town. 

Time Code Highlights. 

00:02:54 Nohema Graber goes missing during her regular walk in the park

00:03:06 Body of Nohema Graber found in park under a tarp, Two 16-year-old students arrested

00:05:19 Joseph Scott Morgan talks about first homicide he worked was a brother who beat his brother to death with a baseball bat  

00:07:11 discussion about what teachers are faced with every day 

00:08:47 Talk about how this case begins with a bad grade

00:10:11 Talk about two students feeling like they were owed something

00:11:44 Discussion of Timeline of events 

00:14:24 Talk about two friends decide to murder teacher 

00:15:20 Discussion of the plan the perpetrators had and that it wouldn't change the grad

00:16:22 Talk about the type of weapons teens might have access, baseball bat is weapon of opportunity the routine of victim

00:19:40 Discussion of Both perpetrators were tracking victim in park

00:21:10 The perpetrators discuss the plan on snapchat 

00:22:23  Discussion of Nohema Graber and people seeing Chaiden Miller arguing with her about his grade

00:24:03  Discussion of Nohema Graber van being driven away from park by two males and how perpetrators hide her body

00:25:11 Joseph Scott Morgan points out how everything used in a crime can be traced

00:26:27  Discussion of perpetrators taking the bloody bat, bloody clothes, back home. Friend shows snapchat messages to law enforcement

00:28:08 Discussion of damage bat can do to a body

00:30:44 Description of the marks the bat will make with contact

00:34:11 Talk about is it possible to determine who swung the bat

00:35:45  Discussion about Jeremy Goodale sentenced to life with possible parole after 25 years, Chaiden Miller sentenced to life with possible parole after 35 years

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November 22, 1963: John F. Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States, was shot and killed during a presidential motorcade in Dallas, Texas.

The President is taken to Parkland Memorial Hospital.  By law, Dallas County Coroner Dr. Earl Rose had jurisdiction over the case and should have performed the autopsy. However, against Dr. Earl Rose's protestations, the body of President Kennedy was wrapped in a sheet, placed in a casket with a broken handle, and flown over 1,300 miles away to Washington DC, where 2 naval doctors, who had never conducted a forensic autopsy performed the autopsy on John F. Kennedy. 

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they take a close look at the autopsy that was so bad, 60years later questions are still being asked. 

Time Code Highlights

00:01:21 Discussion about the ripple effect of the assassination of JFk

00:04:31 Discussion of the moments following the shooting of JFK in Dealey Plaza

00:06:02 Talk about how autopsy "Standard Procedures" were not followed 

00:06:51 Texas state law and jurisdiction over investigation and autopsy

00:07:58 Board Certified Forensic Pathologist Doctor Earl Rose was chief medical examiner for Dallas, Texas at the time and was at Parkland Memorial Hospital

00:09:22 Discussion JFK body taken from Dallas to Washington DC for autopsy

00:10:59 Talk about Secret Service preparing for President trips.

00:11:36 Discussion of JFK physical condition after being shot.

00:12:52 Talk about injuries to JFK, at least 2 gunshot wounds. 

00:13:31 Discussion of tracheotomy that was performed to establish an airway

00:15:04 Discussion of Dr. Earl Rose and how his experience was dismissed

00:16:23 Dr. Earl Rose KNEW he was looking at a Murder Investigation.

00:17:47 Discussion Dallas County had jurisdiction over the body.

00:19:03 Talk about autopsy of JFK should have taken place in Dallas

00:20:08 Talk about previous Presidential assassination, Lincoln, Garfield, and McKinley and their autopsies.

00:22:10 Discussion of Dr. Earl Rose did the autopsy for Oswald, Officer Tippit, and Jack Ruby.

00:23:36  Discussion of JFK body being taken to Washington DC 

00:25:16 Comparing Bethesda Naval Hospital to Walter Reed Hospital 

00:26:04 Discussion about doctors chosen to perform JFK autopsy

00:28:42 Talk about why doctors turned bullet wound into tracheostomy

00:29:55  Presidents body wrapped in sheets. Head wrapped in gauze

00:31:09 Discussion of JFK clothing, tie changed the trajectory of round.

00:32:58  Discussion about clothing worn during the assassination

00:33:44 Talk about "magic bullet" going through JFK and Governor Connally, 

00:35:08 Discussion Secret Service agents washed interior of Presidential limo. 

00:36:03 Talk about crime scenes - bone fragments found and turned in later

00:37:02 Description of President's head, skull came apart in doctors hands.

00:38:04 Discussion of Assessment

00:40:02 Talk about x-rays that were done on body

00:41:58  Description of the Bethesda autopsy suite 

00:43:51 Ballistics expert Dr. Pierre Fink, forensic pathologist, came to Bethesda 

00:44:53  JFK brain was removed before Dr. Fink arrived

00:46:05 Description of "Brain Loafing".

00:47:22 The autopsy of JFK was not a complete autopsy

00:49:21 Discussion of "family wishes" as it applies to the murder of the president.

00:50:48 Compare autopsy of John F. Kennedy and Robert F Kennedy

00:52:36 Discussion about other pathologists available to do autopsy on JFK

00:55:09 No way to know if other injuries suffered by JFK could have been lethal

00:56:04 Commentary - no excuse for what happened with autopsy of JFK

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Hanna Rhoden,15, gives birth to a daughter.  2-years later, Rhoden and the baby's father, Jake Wagner, fight over custody.    A custody battle begins and the Wagner family pressures Hanna to give up her daughter.  The Wagners hack Hanna Rhoden's Facebook account and read a private message in which Hanna vows she will not give up the child, quote "they (the Wagners) will have to kill me first."   That is exactly what  happens. 

The Wagner family decide to not only kill Hanna Rhoden, but the rest of her family, anyone who might stand in the way of the Wagner family gaining custody of the little girl. The Wagner family plan is to take out the Rhoden family in one night, four locations, eight murders.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they dig deep into the Pike County Murders. Joseph Scott Morgan gives a firsthand account of the crime scenes and the forensic evidence left behind.

Time code highlights:

00:00:02  Joseph Scott Morgan asked to take part as a forensic expert in a complex case 

00:02:12 Discussion about the investigation of the Pike County Murders

00:02:37 Description:  One night. Four Scenes. Eight Murders

00:03:09 Description of two families that have been friends a long time

00:03:16  Discussion about Hanna Rhoden becomes pregnant with Jake Wagner's baby when she is 15-years-old. Hanna Rhoden breaks up with Jake Wagner

00:04:01 The Wagner's tried to force Hanna Roden to sign papers to turn custody of Sophia over to Jake.

00:04:22 Discussion of Wagner family plan to kill Hanna Rhoden to get custody

00:05:01 Discussion of the first person to be murdered and location of murder scene

00:06:50 Discussion of shots fired through wall first, Chris Rhoden was shot 9 times

00:07:36 Discussion of second victim, Gary Rhoden, visiting from Kentucky

00:10:06 Talk about the injuries to Chris Rhoden's arm

00:11:01  Description of head shots to both Chris Rhoden and Gary Rhoden

00:12:24 Talk of how Wagner Sr said "I just killed my best friend"

00:16:25 The Wagner's didn't know Gary Rhoden would be at the scene

00:17:30  Discussion of the Wagner's make silencers for their weapons

00:19:38  Joseph Scott Morgan talks about being at the site and what it looked like, 

00:21:56  The Wagner's arrived at Chris Rhoden's house barefoot but put on shoes inside the house.

00:22:44  Investigator researched shoe print found in Rhoden trailer and found a match

00:24:45 The forensic shoe print match the best evidence used to convict

00:25:34  Description of second murder scene. Frankie Rhoden, Hannah Gilley, and two small children.  

00:25:26 Older child came to door (the next morning) and said  "daddy's playing zombie"

00:27:10  Discussion of Hannah Gilley was shot 5 times in the head

00:30:25  Discussion of distance from Frankie Rhoden's house to Dana Rhoden home

00:32:37  Dana Rhoden's home was unlocked, Dana Rhoden's face was illuminated by her phone, made eye contact with Jake Wagner and he shot and killed Dana Rhoden

00:33:40  Discussion of Hanna May Rhoden being the reason for the murders

00:34:00  Discussion of Hanna Rhoden had baby 4 days earlier

00:34:15 The child Hanna Rhoden had with Jake Wagner was with the Wagner family at the time of the murders

00:34:35  Discussion of Jake Wagner placing baby next to body of Hanna May Rhoden so the baby could feed off the dead mother

00:36:01 Discussion of Hanna Rhoden and Hannah Gilley both shot 5 times in the head

00:36:45 Chris Rhoden jr, 16, shot dead in bed

00:37:45 Discussion of Kenneth Rhoden living in travel trailer 7 miles from the other scenes, shot once in head.

00:41:22 Discussion of Jake Wagner and his brother going to great lengths to get rid of weapons

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Over the last few years, more and more death scenes involve dismemberment.

An "obsessed" true crime fan in South Korea thinks she can pull off the perfect murder, so how did Jung Yoo-Jung get caught? Taylor Schabusiness tells police she doesn't remember strangling her boyfriend, but it felt good. She leaves his severed head in a bucket for his mother to find.

And in Tennessee, prosecutors say Joel Guy Jr created a "diabolical stew of human remains" with his mother's head when he finds out his parents are cutting him off.

Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the forensics and Dave Mack keeps the stories moving in this fast-paced edition of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan in front of a live audience at CrimeCon 2023 in Orlando, Florida

Time Code Highlights. 

00:02:50 South Korean Woman Jung Yoo-Jung is said to be an obsessed crime fan

00:03:17 Discussion of how 23-year-old woman pretends to be a 14-year-old school girl

00:04:19 Jung Yoo-jung wants to commit a homicide and dismember the victim to try and get away with murder.. 

00:05:33  Her plan is to kill, dismember, and dispose of the victim.  

00:06:27 Talks about the tools needed to do the job she wants to do

00:10:19 What would she used to clean up the area?

00:12:00 Talk about Gilgo and Rex Heuermann

00:12:44 Talking about the getaway and getting rid of the remains

00:12:57 To commit the perfect crime she uses a cab as a getaway car, leads to her capture

00:14:39 Joseph Scott Morgan tells story of transporting a head as a young man working in New Orleans with the coroner.

00:15:52  Under no circumstances are you to allow this bot this head out of your sight. 

00:16:23 Had to use a cooler with ice to transport the head 

00:18:40 Discussion about Taylor Schabusiness case.

00:19:14 The mother of the victim finds his head in bucket

00:20:20 Discussion of the relationship between suspect and victim

00:21:56 Schabusiness told police she didn't remember strangling him, but she remembered liking it. 

00:23:16 She told police, you found this part of him, good luck finding the rest

00:25:48  Discussion about the types of knives needed to do what was done to the victim

00:27:46 Talk about the forensics of different types of blades

00:30:47 Joe Scott Morgan talks about the time it takes to dismember a body

00:32:09 Joel Guy Jr, created a game plan for what he was going to do to his parents

00:32:23 Discussion about Joel Guy Jr and why he killed his parents

00:34:18 Joel Guy Jr stabbed his parents to death, then cut them up.

00:35:04 Talk about police interrupted Joel Guy Jr and found his "list" of things to do

00:39:42 Discussion of the medical examiner at the trial 

00:40:09 Talk about anti-mortem and post-mortem 

00:43:11 Joseph Scott Morgan explains the way a body can be disarticulated

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Maleesa Mooney's family hasn't heard from the 31-year-old model for several days.

Worried, they ask police to do a welfare check. Los Angeles police let themselves into her apartment with a key obtained from the manager. The air conditioner has been turned down and the apartment is very cold. Police discover the beaten and bruised body of Maleesa Mooney, with her hands and feet bound, wedged into the refrigerator. There is blood underneath her body. 

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they discuss how this beautiful and talented woman died. 

Time Code Highlights. 

00:02:30 Family of Maleesa Mooney ask police to check on her.

00:03:06 Police find Maleesa Mooney, 31, bound, gagged, stuffed in refrigerator with blood  

00:04:19 The police are working as a homicide.   

00:05:25 Family gets answers from mortuary 

00:07:11 Joe Scott Morgan shares story of mistake he made notifying a mother of how her son died

00:08:27 The victim was greatly traumatized. 

00:09:39 What it would take to put a person inside a refrigerator

00:11:44 Victim was beaten and broken. 

00:14:24 Mooney seen walking into her building on surveillance camera

00:14:42 No forced entry into apartment

00:15:20 The air conditioning in apartment had been turned down and it had been flooded

00:18:00  Items on the table that are commonly associated with needing to be refrigerated, as if the refrigerator been cleaned out.  

00:18:58 Is running water an effort to destroy evidence?

00:19:40   Details on the last time anybody talked to Melissa Mooney.

00:21:27  There's a six day window between last communication and when body is found. . 

00:22:23  Victim has multiple trauma  about her head and her neck. 

00:24:03 Victim is pregnant. 

00:27:27  Family received vague text messages.  

00:30:08  Victim is bound  ankles and wrists.

00:33:11 Victim is gagged.

00:35:15 How would body be examined at the morgue? 

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On the evening of August 15,  Connor and Betty Bowman stay home and have drinks together. The last drink Betty remembered having was a smoothie. The next morning Betty Bowman is sick. So sick she goes to the hospital where they admit her and treat her for what seemed like food poisoning. Betty Bowman is 32 and healthy but over the next 4 days her condition worsens and she dies. When her husband, Connor Bowman, tries to have her cremated right away with no autopsy, alarms bells go off and police are called. It seems that Connor Bowman was researching a particular medication used to treat gout, and what would be the lethal amount for someone the size of Betty Bowman.

Join forensic expert Joseph Scott Morgan and co-host Dave Mack as look into the almost perfect weapon and crime. 

Time Code- Highlights

00:00:00  Some natural remedies have been know to humanity for thousands of years. Could one have been used for murder? 

00:04:46 Discussion of Betty and Connor Bowman's educations and professions. Both are pharmacists.

00:07:59 Bowman marriage difficulties discussed. 

00:09:08 Betty Bowman hospitalized with what is thought to be food poisoning and dies  

00:09:12 Connor Bowman has to be smart, based on educational accomplishments

00:09:15  32 years old Betty Bowman found a way to travel. She traveled the world. 

00:09:20 Betty went to Hawaii, the Caribbea, Iceland, Grand Canyon. 

00:09:35 Connor had such massive debt from college that they kept their money separate

00:09:44 Conner Bowman told a friend there was $450,000 life insurance on Betty Bowman

00:10:05  Betty Bowman was in good health. She and Conner  talking about divorce. 

00:10:12 August 15, Betty and Connor Bowman at home, drinking and watching movies

00:10:39 Betty wakes up sick, thought food poisoning, went to Mayo clinic, St Mary Hospital August 16

00:10:59 Betty admitted to hospital and they treat her for food poisoning

00:11:05 Treat her for gastrointestinal distress and dehydration

00:11:14 After treatment, nothing gets better and she dies after four days. 

00:11:58 Marriage on downhill slope

00:35:21 Connor Bowman says no autopsy, wife doesn't want to be a cadaver.

00:39:02 Connor Bowman asked if cremation would cause more "in depth" tox screen

00:41:35 Bowman looked up colchicine on laptop. What's a lethal dose?

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Kathryn Pham, 21. had been dating Daniel Gunnarsson, 23, hardly a month, but the 23-year-old's obsession with Pham grew quickly. He would get angry if anyone else had the young woman's attention. Gunnarsson confided to his stepfather that he thought Pham was breaking up with him. The stepfather's advice?  Apologize.

Gunnarsson did and somehow convinced Pham to go with him to his stepfather's home. Once there, painters were on the scene. The couple went in to the garage. Soon after the painters hear screaming, but wait an hour before going to check.  Inside the garage, Kathryn Phan is laying on the floor, naked and bloodied. Daniel Gunnarsson struck Pham with an ice axe at least 10 times.

Join forensic expert Joseph Scott Morgan and co-host Dave Mack as they look at the destruction and mayhem caused by one tool.  

Time Codes-highlights

00:00:00  Joseph Scott Morgan discusses what it's like to receive a jury duty letter in the mail only to find the possible case is murder. 

00:02:29  An ice axe is not a tool found in most homes. Usually it is only in locations with colder temperature.  How could it be used for murder? 

00:04:14 Description of an ice axe

00:06:50  Dating relationship between Daniel Gunnarsson and Katie Pham introduced

00:07:56 Daniel Gunnarsson red flag behavior details. 

 00:09:06  Katie Pham's trip to Gunnarsson's stepfather's garage

 00:09:38  Painters start hearing a girl's screams. Body is discovered. Scene described.

 00:12:28 Katie Pham's injuries described 

 00:15:56 Injuries occurred in the upper body, the chest, the neck  and the head. . 

00:20:08 Dead body touched in sexual manner

00:21:34 Suspect was wearing gloves. 

00:24:45 Jurors had to hear details of an ice axe murder. 

00:25:34 Victim was struck at least 10 times. 

00:28:36  Is it possible to determine the order of injuries? 

00:29:41 Defense strategy was that someone else snuck into the garage. 

 00:31:01 Jurors wept 

00:31:20  Daniel Gunderson was  found guilty.  

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Kara Nichols is found dead, strangled and buried alongside a horse on a property owned by her murderer's parents, several years after she has been declared missing.

Confessed killer Joel Hollendorfer is at the center of this tale that explores not just the murder itself, but its far-reaching repercussions. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack traverse the winding roads of Kara's life and the cold case that took years to solve. They discuss the forensics of strangulation, the ethics of grief, and the complexities of moral responsibility.

Dave delves into the timeline of Kara's last days, while Joseph navigates the complicated web of legal hurdles that investigators faced. This episode also questions whether it's possible to die of a broken heart, highlighting the psychological and emotional toll a murder can take on the families involved.

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Time-coded Highlights:

00:00:43 — Joseph Scott Morgan discusses the theme of the episode, which is whether people can die of a broken heart, or from grief. He introduces a case where a murderer believes his father died from the shock of his confession.

00:02:03 — Dave Mack shares his philosophical views on the overwhelming power of grief.

00:03:20— Details about the murder of Kara Nichols are shared. 

00:05:00—Joseph Scott Morgan talks about the emotional burden for the perpetrator's parents.

006:10, Dave questions the moral responsibility of those who know about the crime.

00:07:58—The close relationship between Kara and her brother is spotlighted.

00:08:27—The discussion shifts to the challenging circumstances of Kara's life.

00:09:14—Joe Scott Morgan reveals that persistence and hard work solved this cold case.

00:10:05 — Dave Mack expresses admiration for cold case workers like Cheryl McCollum.

00:15:05 — The movements of Kara are traced back to a specific suspect via her phone.

00:16:40 — Joel Hollendorfer’s conversation with Detective Gugliotta is discussed.

00:18:20 — The complexities of obtaining a search warrant are outlined.

00:23:11 — Morgan discusses the complexities of using ground penetrating radar in investigations.

00:24:14 — Dave Mack reveals that Joel Hollendorfer confessed to his parents about killing a young woman. 

00:28:08 — Explaination of the use of lime on a body to speed up the decompositional process.

00:36:48 — Morgan explains the intricacies of strangulation and the role of the hyoid bone in determining the cause of death.

00:38:20 — The trial and conviction of Joel Hollendorfer are dissected, leaving listeners with the unsettling thought that he still has a chance at a life outside prison.

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In an unfathomable act, the lifeless body of young Zion Staples is discovered abandoned in a trash can. The grim finding sends waves through the community, raising existential questions on human morality. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dissect the intricacies of the case, exploring topics ranging from the science of decomposition to the societal implications of how we treat our deceased. While Morgan brings his forensic expertise to the table, offering unique insights into time of death estimation and the decomposition process, Mack provides additional context, revealing dark layers of the family's involvement.

Time-coded Highlights:

00:00:20 — Joseph Scott Morgan sets the tone by musing on the value of life.

00:01:20 — The tragic story of Zion Staples is introduced. 

00:01:54 — Taking out the trash is discussed as an everyday act with dark implications in the Zion Staples case.

00:03:00 — Dave Mack contextualizes the focus on garbage and decomposition in the case.

00:03:50 — The connection between smell and taste in the context of decomposition is explained by Joe Scott.

00:04:08 — Society's treatment of the deceased is examined. 

00:07:14 — Dispelling a common misconception, Joseph Scott Morgan talks about the challenges in determining the exact time of death.

00:09:11 — Morgan shares details about another mysterious case involving a person missing for seven months.

00:14:37 — A detailed explanation of body tissue disintegration after death is given.

00:16:22 — Cause of death's impact on decomposition rates is discussed after Dave Mack brings up the example of a gunshot wound to the head.

00:21:14 — Significant changes that a decomposing body undergoes are highlighted by Morgan, emphasizing the importance of evidence preservation.

00:29:00 — New information about Zion's mother, Sushi Staples, and her history with child services is revealed. 

00:30:40 — Joe Scott Morgan discusses the challenges of the investigation due to the time elapsed since the incident and the lack of concrete evidence.

00:32:08 — Morgan reveals that Sushi Staples has only been charged with concealing the body of her 10-year-old son in a garbage can, not with his death.

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Two horrific murders shake a university town to its core, as Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom fall prey to a monstrous crime. In a dilapidated house in East Knoxville, Tennessee, the young couple are kidnapped and tortured in an environment that can only be described as hellish. In this gripping episode, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack unravel the gruesome details, chilling forensics, and unfathomable cruelty behind the case. With firsthand experience and unsettling revelations, they bring you closer to understanding the harrowing ordeal these victims went through. The episode delves into forensic complexities, offers insights into the minds of the perpetrators, and discusses the pivotal moments that led to their capture. Brace yourselves for a haunting journey through one of the darkest chapters of true crime.

Time-coded Highlights:

00:00:20 — Joseph Scott Morgan sets the stage for the episode’s chilling focus: two horrific murders in a university town, considered among the most horrifying covered by Morgan.

00:01:20 — The names of the victims, Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom, are introduced alongside the setting—a rundown house in East Knoxville.

00:01:40 — Joseph Scott Morgan discloses his personal involvement in covering the Eric Boyd trial.

00:03:00 — A visceral account of the kidnapping and the setting is provided by Dave Mack.

00:04:40 — It's revealed that the atrocities committed against Channon and Christopher are akin to acts of “Satan himself."

00:07:31 — The suffering endured by Christopher Newsom, including torture and being set on fire, is hauntingly detailed by Dave Mack.

00:08:04 — The agonizing torment Channon Christian went through is elaborated upon by Joseph Scott Morgan.

00:08:46 — The seclusion and inaccessibility of railway tracks as common dumping grounds for victims are discussed.

00:10:02 — Dave Mack specifies that Christopher was not killed at the house but was later taken to the railway tracks.

00:10:54 — Dave Mack reveals that unusual activities at the house on the night of the crime were noticed by a dump truck driver.

00:11:27 — Treatment of the victims is equated to "torture," akin to how prisoners of war are treated.

00:15:04 — The crime scene’s dehumanizing aspects and the extreme physical abuse suffered by the victims are dissected.

00:23:05 — Psychological manipulation used on the victim by promising release is exposed.

00:30:27 — The discovery of the female victim's body in a garbage can, constricted into a fetal position, adds another layer of horror to the narrative.

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Dorothy Dusold's life comes to a chilling end, her body marred by manual strangulation and the telltale signs of anoxic encephalopathy—a gruesome testament to oxygen deprivation and ensuing cardiac arrest. True crime experts Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack join forces to dissect this unsettling narrative, where familial love crumbles into fatal brutality. Diving deep into the psychosocial underpinnings, forensic evidence, and medical realities of the case, they guide us from the eerie echoes of the 911 call to the contentious forensic findings that sway the court. Through their exhaustive analysis, they illuminate not only Dorothy's agonizing final moments but also the grim medical trajectories that culminated in her tragic demise. This episode serves as a poignant and intellectually rigorous examination of the shadowy corners where family ties fray into lethal violence.

Time-coded Highlights:

00:00:20—Joseph Scott Morgan introduces the unique case of a daughter allegedly squeezing her mother to death.

00:02:40—Joe Scott and Dave Mack discuss the physical strength required to squeeze someone to death.

00:03:20 — The 911 call made by Cassandra Dusold is discussed. 

00:04:20—Morgan lauds the invaluable role of first responders in high-stakes situations.

00:06:20 — The concept of deception in the case is introduced.

00:07:04 — Joe Scott Morgan explains what a 'code' means in a hospital setting, specifically a 'code blue' which indicates cardiac arrest.

00:08:31— The crucial steps in emergency cardiac care are outlined. 

00:14:09 — Dave Mack opens up a dialogue on the unusual circumstances surrounding Dorothy Dusold's death.

00:16:40—Dave highlights inconsistencies in Cassandra's story, creating doubt about her credibility.

00:18:40, the possibility of Dorothy having bilateral black eyes and ear bleeding is explored.

00:27:49 — A medical breakdown of how the victim's throat was constricted is presented.

00:30:00, Joe Scott delves into various methods of manual strangulation, questioning the story told by Cassandra.

00:31:40 — The episode wraps up with the conviction of the perpetrator, Cassandra Dussault, for manslaughter.

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Jamie Faith, a special forces operator in Tennessee, is fatally shot seven times while walking his dog, a part of his morning routine with his wife Jennifer. What initially appears as a masked perpetrator's random act of violence unravels into a dark tale of manipulation, emotional affairs, and meticulous planning. Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they delve into the layers of this case, from shot groupings to text messages that expose a staggering truth. Hear about their personal experiences with gun control and their love for dogs, which add nuanced layers to this tragic narrative. With revelations of a GoFundMe scam and the psychological tactics of a supposedly grieving widow, this episode leaves you questioning where love ends and deceit begins.

Time-coded Highlights:

00:00:20—Joe Scott Morgan sets a serene scene by sharing his morning routine with his rescue dogs before diving into Jamie and Jennifer Faith's heart-wrenching story.

00:01:23—The tragic murder of Jamie Faith is introduced by Morgan, marking the contrast between a mundane dog-walking routine and a violent death.

00:01:55—A light moment as Morgan teases a secret about Dave Mack.

00:02:29—Dave Mack speaks fondly of his English Bulldog, Hank, adding to the hosts' evident love for dogs.

00:03:40—The story of Jamie and Jennifer Faith comes to life as Mack paints a vivid picture of the couple.

00:04:22—Joseph Scott Morgan describes the peaceful neighborhood where Jamie was killed starkly and how it contrasts with the horror that unfolded there.

00:07:03—The complexity of shooting scenarios is discussed, touching upon the differences in training between the military and police.

00:09:10—Shot grouping and its accuracy are detailed, with Morgan using the example of an index card.

00:12:11—Morgan's personal connection to the case reveals the story's emotional weight.

00:15:02—The hosts discuss the striking contrast between the crime scene and its peaceful setting, noting Jamie's strategic targeting.

00:18:21—A 45 caliber handgun's history and effectiveness are elaborated on by Morgan.

00:22:57—Dave Mack starts to reveal the investigation's findings, including a peculiar connection to Jennifer, Jamie's wife.

00:25:00—Digital forensics bring shocking text messages to light, discussed by both Mack and Morgan.

00:30:20—A perforating gunshot wound in Jamie's groin emphasizes the brutality of the attack.

00:31:00—The episode concludes with Joe Scott stating that the shooter was highly skilled, having left no trace of soot or gunpowder on Jamie's body.

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Ashli Ehrhardt, a woman embroiled in a tumultuous marriage, meets a devastating end in her laundry room. With signs of struggle all around and her body bearing multiple types of wounds—a belt around the neck, stab wounds, and puncture injuries—Ashli's father is the one who horrifyingly discovers her. Her husband, John Wonder, becomes the prime suspect in what appears to be a crime of passion layered with complex clues. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack unravel the chilling details surrounding Ashli’s death. From the puzzling written messages left at the crime scene to the suspect's unsettling social media behavior, this episode dives deep into the importance of forensic documentation. As the narrative unfolds, listen in for insights into unusual wounds, psychological profiles, and the critical role of time-stamped messages. 

Time-coded Highlights:

00:00:20 — Joseph Scott Morgan opens the episode by discussing the power of written communication and its ability to express deep emotions.

00:02:20 — Dave Mack introduces the case involving John Wonder and Ashli Ehrhardt, a married couple going through a divorce. Mack speculates on their use of social media and text messaging.

00:07:00 — The importance of co-workers in death investigations is highlighted, especially in cases of suicide.

00:08:06  — Dave Mack discusses John Wonder's peculiar behavior.

00:10:20 — The heartbreaking moment Ashli's father discovers her body.

00:11:00 — Joseph Scott Morgan brings the horror of the scene to life by discussing the amount of blood present.

00:12:00 — Questions are raised about the cause of death when a belt is found around Ashley's neck.

00:16:42 — The unusual circumstances at the crime scene, including the belt and potential staging, are questioned by Dave Mack.

00:19:00 — Morgan stresses the necessity of a thorough examination at the autopsy table for determining the cause of death.

00:21:42 — Distinctions between stab and puncture wounds are explored. 

00:29:50 — A disturbing text message from John to his sister is revealed. 

00:30:20 — Mack shares an alleged text message from John indicating his plans to flee.

00:31:40 — The role of forensic document examiners in cases like this is introduced.

00:34:00 — Focusing on the writing in blood, the possibility of the defense claiming a setup is discussed.

00:40:47—The episode closes on a serious note as Joseph Scott Morgan shares the National Domestic Violence Hotline, urging those in abusive relationships to seek help.

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Struck on the head with an iron skillet and stabbed multiple times, Brenda Powell’s life comes to a shocking and tragic end at the hands of her daughter.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the perplexing aspects of this chilling homicide that has captivated public interest. They explore the unique role an 'ear witness' plays in the investigation and scrutinize the difficult transition Sydney experienced from high school to college, as well as the financial and emotional challenges involved.

Armed with Morgan's forensic expertise and Mack's keen investigative insights, the duo crafts an episode filled with emotional depth, compelling narrative, and sharp analysis. As they walk you through key moments, witness testimonies, and the complicated criminal landscape, they raise important questions about family dynamics, criminal psychology, and the advancements in forensic science.

Time-coded Highlights:

00:00:20—Joe Scott Morgan sets the tone by reflecting on the impact of sounds and memories on a murder investigation. He introduces Brenda Powell's brutal homicide case.

02:20:00—Dave Mack shares a unique description related to the case.

04:00:00—The emotional toll of working in oncology is illuminated.

05:20:00—The concept of an earwitness is introduced, offering an innovative twist to the narrative.

06:40:00—Sydney Powell's academic struggles are revealed. 

07:35:00—Joe Scott explores the emotional and financial challenges of transitioning from high school to college. 

09:23:00—The boiling point leading to violent crimes is dissected.

10:00:00—A critical phone call from Brenda to her university is detailed, becoming a key moment in the investigation.

12:20:00—The chilling moment when Brenda Powell is struck on the head by an iron skillet.

15:40:00—Morgan reflects on the cultural portrayal of frying pans as weapons compared to their real-world lethal potential.

23:05:00—The absence of premeditation in the crime is suggested, considering the presence of ‘ear witnesses’.

27:16:00—The immediate reaction of university administrators on the phone during the attack and their subsequent 911 calls are narrated.

34:00:00—Concluding the episode, Joe Scott Morgan explains that the multitude of injuries led to Brenda Powell's death.

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Suzanne Morphew, a 49-year-old mother of two from Chaffee County, Colorado, disappears under mysterious and suspicious circumstances. Initially reported missing following a supposed bike ride on Mother's Day, her case quickly gains national media attention. With each passing day, the urgency to find the truth escalates. In this episode, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack meticulously examine the Suzanne Morphew case through a forensic lens. Morgan delves into expert insights, discussing the roles of apex predators, decay patterns, and dental records in Suzanne's identification. Dave Mack scrutinizes the media coverage and evaluates the initial theories surrounding the case. From weather impediments affecting search efforts to perplexing clues that challenge conventional theories, this episode offers an exhaustive exploration of a case that continues to confound investigators.

Time-coded Highlights:

00:02:00 — Introduction to the episode's focus on the forensics surrounding the Suzanne Morphew case.

00:02:40 — Dave Mack talks about the Morphew case, which he has been covering since Suzanne went missing.

00:04:20 — Mack delves into the initial theory that Suzanne went for a bike ride and subsequently vanished.

00:05:00 — Barry Morphew's theory of a mountain lion attack as a possible cause of Suzanne's disappearance is discussed.

00:05:20 — Joseph Scott Morgan explains the behavior patterns of apex predators and how they could be linked to this case.

00:08:20 — Questioning the absence of evidence supporting the apex predator theory where Suzanne's bike was found.

00:09:03 — The notion of a human predator being involved in Suzanne's disappearance is raised.

00:10:29 — Morgan talks about the discovery of Suzanne's helmet and the absence of trauma evidence within it.

00:12:58 — Joe Scott Morgan says that the circumstances surrounding Suzanne's discovery are unlike anything he has seen before.

00:14:04 — Morgan elaborates on the legal concept of corpus delecti and its relevance to this case.

00:16:14 — The implications of the burial site being a shallow grave are discussed.

00:19:21 — Dave Mack notes that investigators weren't looking for Suzanne when her remains were found.

00:22:23 — A vivid picture is painted about the potential skeletal disbursement of Suzanne's remains.

00:32:12 — Challenges in determining the cause of death in the absence of soft tissue are covered.

00:34:42 — Joe Scott Morgan wraps up the episode, questioning the preparation and speed involved in hiding Suzanne Morphew's body.

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Connie Cuesta's life is violently cut short; her body is discovered with numerous lacerations, inflicted by the unlikely weapon of a wine bottle. The room shows signs of struggle; every organ in her body bears a mark, and multiple wine bottles are scattered across the scene. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack guide listeners through this bewildering episode of Body Bags, meticulously dissecting the elements that make this case so extraordinary. From the anatomy of a wine bottle's lethal potential to the significance of the victim's state of undress, the episode is a masterclass in forensic investigation. Listen in to uncover the intricate web of forensic details that could play a crucial role in the ensuing legal process.

Time-coded Highlights:

00:00:20 — Joseph Scott Morgan introduces the episode, hinting at a murder case involving a wine bottle as a weapon.

00:01:36 — The oddity of a wine bottle as a murder weapon is discussed.

00:02:39 —Joe Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the impact of a head strike with an object, providing insight into the potential deadly force of the wine bottle.

00:03:00 — Dave Mack shares information about the murder case.

00:08:20 — Drawing a parallel between the design of a bottle and a baseball bat, Joe Scott indicates how they can be similarly weaponized. He then reveals that a woman's life ended due to an impact from a wine bottle.

00:10:20 — Joseph Scott Morgan describes the signs of a struggle at the crime scene. He emphasizes the importance of understanding those signs when investigating.

00:13:48 — Discussion of the role of the medical examiner in the investigation and the importance of the body’s temperature at the crime scene.

00:16:49 — Joe Scott and Dave discuss the victim's state of undress, considering whether it indicates a sexual assault or is a result of being dragged.

00:20:58 — Discussing the severity of the victim's injuries, Morgan notes that every organ in her body sustained a laceration.

 00:25:11 — Detailing how a knife was driven into the victim's temporal bone four times, Morgan indicates the force required for such an act.

00:27:54 - Joseph Scott Morgan makes a crucial point about Sean Cuesta's current legal status, reminding listeners that he is still considered innocent as he has not yet been taken to trial.

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Kensie Aubry, a 32-year-old woman hungry for a new chapter in her life, tragically finds herself the victim of a man's nightmarish fantasy, leading to her horrific murder. As her last known whereabouts in Independence, Missouri become the center of a desperate search, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into this unsettling case. They unpack the haunting realities that blur the lines between dark fantasies and unspeakable actions, exploring how one individual's twisted imagination led to a gruesome reality. The episode navigates the complexities of the foster care system, highlights the courage it takes for survivors to speak up, and provides an intricate look at the role of body identification in solving missing persons cases. Whether discussing the gruesome details of chainsaw dismemberment or the intricacies of matching tool marks on bones, this episode is a sobering reminder of the urgent need to bring justice to the lost and give voice to the silent.

Time-coded Highlights:

00:00:00 — Joseph Scott Morgan introduces the episode by exploring the human fascination with dark fantasies. He unpacks the depraved fantasy behind Kensie Aubry’s murder.

00:03:00 — Dave Mack elaborates on Kensie's last known whereabouts.

00:04:00 — Missing persons' reports and their intricacies are discussed.

00:05:00 — The conversation continues on the importance of intricate physical details for identification.

00:07:21 — A brave abuse survivor’s role in solving the case is revealed by Dave Mack.

00:09:12 — Joe Scott emphasizes how crucial revelations were for the investigation.

00:10:56 — The twisted relationship between Maggie Ybarra and Michael Hendricks is dissected.

00:14:00 — Dave shares a chilling confession leading to Michael Hendricks’ arrest.

00:15:20 — Morgan explains how X-ray machines can aid in identifying dismembered remains.

00:16:00 — The process of revealing tattoos on decomposed skin is shared.

00:16:40 — An in-depth look into the permanence of tattoos.

00:19:00 — Joseph Scott Morgan ponders the changing significance of prison tattoos for identification.

00:22:45 — Joe Scott recalls a haunting tale of a murder involving a frozen body. He speculates on why murderers might opt to freeze their victims.

00:27:20 — Dave and Joe ponder the logistics of dismembering a frozen body versus a non-frozen one.

00:30:03 — The investigation challenges are highlighted by Joe Scott Morgan.

00:33:34 — The episode concludes as Dave Mack heralds the hero who provided crucial information for the case.

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In a chilling twist of events, Annamarie Cochrane Rintala is found dead, her stiff body soaked in both paint and blood.

The spouse, Cara Rintala, finds herself in a situation that marks a legal first in Massachusetts—a woman charged with the murder of her wife. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the perplexing nature of the evidence, from the viscosity of paint and blood to the subtleties of rigor mortis. Morgan discusses the troubling aspects of multiple trials and the contentious role of so-called experts in courtroom drama.

The hosts also scrutinize the telltale signs of asphyxial death and the importance of scientific validation in legal cases.

Time-coded Highlights:

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Jessica Ross and Treveon Isaiah Taylor are filled with joy at the prospect of welcoming their newborn into the world.

Tragically, their world is turned upside down when what should have been a routine childbirth becomes a horrifying series of events that end in the loss of their baby. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack unravel the deeply disturbing story of a young couple who were denied the chance to bond with their deceased child. They explore the complex layers of emotion, science, and legality surrounding the case.

From a shocking refusal to permit an autopsy, to startling revelations of the baby's decapitation, the hosts scrutinize every angle. They underscore the necessity for trust between medical professionals and patients, particularly when the stakes are this high. 

Time-coded Highlights:

00:00:20 — Joseph Scott Morgan delves into the human need for tactile confirmation during grief, emphasizing the irreplaceable role touch plays in coping with a loved one's death.

00:02:40 — Dave Mack begins the narration of Jessica Ross and Treveon Isaiah Taylor's story, and ​​describes the complications that arose during the delivery. 

00:05:00 — The condition called “shoulder dystocia” is explained by Joe Scott. 

00:08:11 — A distinction between stillbirth and sudden infant death is made by Morgan. 

00:10:42 — Morgan addresses the perilous state of the mother during childbirth, pondering on medical errors that can tip the scale from life to death.

00:11:46 — A conversation around the shocking force needed to fracture an infant’s bones brings listeners to a grim realization about the case.

00:13:00 — The timeline of the events is shared by Mack, highlighting the urgency and critical nature of the situation at hand.

00:13:54 — Parents in the dark: Mack discusses the hospital’s lack of transparency concerning the baby's condition.

00:15:42 — Exploring emotional trauma, Morgan reveals how the young couple missed a crucial bonding moment with their baby due to medical complications.

00:16:16 — Mack raises the curtain on the grim reality that the parents were actively deceived about the state of their child.

00:17:20 — Joseph Scott Morgan sheds light on the hospital's suggestion to avoid an autopsy and opt for cremation, deepening the layers of this tragic tale.

00:18:40 — The term "medical misadventure" is introduced by Morgan, who likens the medical failures in the case to manslaughter.

00:20:40 — In any medical tragedy, trust is paramount, emphasizes Morgan, particularly when the stakes are a matter of life and death.

00:21:40 — The legal implications come into play as Morgan articulates that this case should have been immediately reported to medical legal authorities.

00:24:06 — Mack discusses the parents' decision to hire Dr. Jackson Gates for an independent autopsy, and the shocking revelation that images of the decapitated baby were posted on Instagram.

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In a quiet Oklahoma town, A.J. Cantrell and his wife Patsy lived lives built on community and kindness, never expecting their paths to intersect with a dangerous man whose actions will disrupt their sense of peace forever. The Cantrells, beloved by their community, meet a violent end, leaving a hole in the heart of their close-knit town. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve deep into the tragedy, examining the chilling forensic details, the devastating impact on the community, and the 37-day manhunt that gripped the nation. Morgan leverages his expertise to discuss the mechanics of the lethal 410 shotgun used in the crime, while Mack provides harrowing firsthand accounts that highlight the complexities of the case. They also explore the psychology of violence, diving into the backstory and subsequent actions of the perpetrator, Scott Eizember. Alongside forensic science and investigative details, this episode serves as a tribute to the Cantrells, whose lives were cruelly taken.

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00:00:20 — Joseph Scott Morgan sets the scene, introducing the heartbreaking case that took place in a small town in Oklahoma. 

00:01:20 — Generosity and kindness in a church community are explored by Morgan and Mack. 

00:03:00 — Joe Scott introduces the notion of a 'wolf in sheep's clothing,' personified by Scott Eizember, who arrives in town riding on a bicycle. 

00:06:00 — A romantic entanglement between Eizember and Kathy Biggs becomes the focus as Dave Mack peels back another layer of the story.

00:07:13 — The importance of examining a subject's history in a homicide case is expounded upon by Joseph Scott Morgan. He asserts that such scrutiny can offer insights into potential violent outcomes.

00:09:11 — Dave Mack introduces Scott Eizember's horrifying acts of violence, setting the tone for the deeper forensic analysis to come.

00:10:27 — Dave Mack recalls the terrifying moments leading to the Cantrells' deaths. A 410 shotgun becomes the weapon of irreversible consequence. The deadly force of a 410 shotgun is anatomized by Joseph Scott Morgan.

00:16:14 — Joseph Scott Morgan demystifies gunpowder evidence on a body, helping listeners grasp the possible range from which the shotgun was fired. He talks about using a long-arm weapon as a bludgeon during the attack on Mr. Cantrell.

00:17:11 — Dave Mack educates listeners on the difference between slicing wounds and lacerations, the latter caused by blunt force trauma. 

00:18:25 — Skull fractures and the force needed to inflict them are debated by Mack and Morgan. 

At 00:24:12 — Dave Mack highlights how the Wright family initially welcomed Eizember before he unleashed his violent tendencies on the Cantrells, leading to a whirlpool of tragic events.

00:25:50 —  Mack outlines Eizember's further attacks on a 16-year-old boy, a 63-year-old woman, and his ex-girlfriend, Katherine Smith, all of whom survive.

00:26:17 — Dave discusses the 37-day manhunt for Eizember, the kidnapping of Dr. and Mrs. Peebles, and how Eizember was finally apprehended.

00:29:10 — A chilling detail is revealed by Morgan—the unfired round in the weapon, suggesting that Eizember had potential for more destruction.

00:30:20 — The episode concludes with Joseph Scott Morgan confirming Scott Eizember's execution, signaling the end of a terrifying chapter for the community.

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Lured from bars in Tampa Bay, Florida, Jason Galehouse and Michael Wachholtz become victims of unthinkable acts of violence, torture, and ultimately murder at the hands of Steven Lorenzo and his roommate Scott Schweikert.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dive into the harrowing details of these crimes, examining the evidence, psychology, and horrifying realities faced by the victims. As Morgan unpacks the forensic side—from GHB to blood spatter—Mack provides a chilling narrative that contextualizes the nightmare that unfolded.

This episode is not just an exploration into the depths of human depravity, but also a tribute to the lives and stories of Jason Galehouse, Michael Waccholtz, Albert Perkins, and other unnamed victims of Loenzo and Schweikert.

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00:00:20 — Joseph Scott Morgan reveals a childhood fascination with a magnifying glass. This simple tale explains his eventual career in forensics.

01:40 — Steven Lorenzo, convicted of two murders but suspected of many more, is introduced. 

00:03:20 — Dave Mack asks Joe Scott to break down the substance GHB. 

00:03:40 — A chilling overview of Lorenzo's methods is described. Mack succinctly recounts how the criminal drugged and tortured his victims.

00:04:40 — Joseph Scott Morgan unveils the eerie nature of GHB, detailing its street names and effects.

00:08:19 — The online meeting between Lorenzo and Schweikert is discussed. Mack introduces how they connected over shared violent fantasies.

00:11:18 — The terrifying setting of the crimes, Lorenzo and Schweikert's home, is revealed. Joe Scott explains how the drug GHB renders victims compliant.

00:13:56 — Mack goes back to 2003 to bring us the stories of the victims, Jason Galehouse and Michael Wachholtz.

00:16:10 — A vivid picture of the crime scene emerges. Mack and Morgan explore how long blood lasts as evidence.

00:20:25 — Dave Mack retells the testimony of a survivor of Lorenzo and Schweikert's, Albert Perkins, emphasizing the cold-blooded nature of the criminals.

00:28:32 — Joseph Scott Morgan explains the crucial role of insects in forensics.

00:33:40 — Justice takes time. Dave Mack highlights the delay in Steven Lorenzo's trial and eventual sentence.

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Joysee Cartagena's coworkers at JetBlue know something is awry when she fails to log in for work—a complete break from her reliable character. Soon after, her lifeless body is found in her home in Sanford, Florida, a zip tie around her neck igniting a slew of investigative questions. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dissect the intricacies of Joysee's perplexing death, weaving together cutting-edge forensic science with real-world implications. The hosts explore everything from forensic markers like ligatures and Tardieu spots to the complex relationship dynamics between Joysee and her boyfriend, Joel Bauza. As they delve into the timeline, scrutinize the evidence, and discuss the eventual charges, their unwavering goal remains: to shed light on the truth behind Joysee's untimely death.

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00:00:00 — Joseph Scott Morgan introduces the complexities of death investigation. The discussion opens with abnormal elements that investigators often encounter.

00:01:40 — Joe delves deeper into the relevance of zip ties in an ongoing case in Sanford, Florida. He details their significance in the overall forensic investigation.

00:03:20 — Dave Mack introduces the story of Joel Bauza and Joysee Cartagena. He portrays Joysee as a caring individual who always put others first, while Joel appears financially dependent on her.

00:04:40 — Joysee's work history and her job at JetBlue are discussed. Dave reveals how important her career was to her.

00:05:00 — The red flag goes up when Joysee misses work. Her coworkers' immediate concern sets the stage for the investigation.

00:05:40 — Emphasizing the importance of timelines in death investigations, Joseph Scott Morgan argues that every minute counts when piecing together the facts.

00:07:42 — Morgan brings up the uncommon circumstances surrounding Joysee’s death. The atypical nature of the case required extra attention from detectives and crime scene techs.

00:09:08 — Dave discusses the zip tie and signs of a struggle. He lays out potential scenarios that could explain Joysee’s untimely death.

00:10:39 — Suicide as a possible result of a domestic dispute is pondered. It’s a heartbreaking thought, yet critical to the investigation.

00:11:11 — Joe Scott instructs on letting the environment of a crime scene "speak" to the investigator. He warns against being influenced by others present.

00:16:00 — The importance of leaving a ligature in place at a crime scene is brought to light. It’s a detail that can have far-reaching implications.

00:17:40 — Morgan questions why the ligature was not removed in Joysee’s case. The unanswered action hints at a potential suspect.

00:19:00 — Joe Scott explains the process of proving a suicide and emphasizes the importance of treating all deaths as homicides until proven otherwise.

00:23:00 — Dave points out delays in the criminal justice process.

00:25:00 — The physical evidence, particularly multiple abrasions on Joysee’s body, is dissected. Joe Scott posits that these suggest a struggle.

00:30:13 — Joseph Scott Morgan introduces the topic of ligatures, which are often seen in hangings. He provides an insight into the presence of Tardieu spots, a specific type of petechiae, and how they appear in cases of strangulation.

00:33:21 — The hosts discuss the pressure points on a zip tie during strangulation and how they can be traced post-mortem.

00:37:20 — Addressing mental health, Joseph Scott Morgan acknowledges listeners struggling with suicidal thoughts, provides the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline number, and emphasizes the importance of seeking help.

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Robert and Georgette Sturmfels, spending the winter holiday season in their cozy Florida home, are blissfully unaware that their lives are about to be irrevocably shattered. Tragically, their lives abruptly end on December 20, 1989, as they become the victims of a chilling double homicide. In this episode, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the horrifying details of the Sturmfels' murders. They meticulously unravel the case, from the suspect's choice of a 22-caliber rifle to the unsettling finality of the crime scene. The conversation goes beyond the murder itself to examine its broader implications, such as the weapon's surprising lethality, common misconceptions about gunshot wounds, and the cold-blooded nature of the perpetrator.

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00:00:00 — Joseph Scott Morgan starts off with a touching reflection on Christmas. From stress to joy, his sentiments evolve over time, especially as he becomes a grandfather.

At 00:01:20 — The tragic case of Robert and Georgette Sturmfels is introduced by Joe Scott. Their murder in Florida sets the stage for a disconcerting episode.

00:04:20 — Diving deeper, Joseph Scott Morgan paints a vivid picture of the Sturmfels' murder. He describes the horrific scene in disquieting detail.

00:05:20 — Louis Gaskin, the suspect, is discussed by Dave Mack. He outlines Gaskin's ruthlessness and the premeditation behind the crime.

00:06:20 — Weaponry is the topic as Joe Scott and Dave debate the lethal nature of a 22-caliber rifle used in the crime.

00:08:00 — A lesson in firearms ensues as Joseph Scott Morgan distinguishes between long arms and pistols, explaining why the latter is more easily concealed.

00:10:20 — Unveiling the crime, Dave shares how Louis Gaskin meticulously planned, and executed the murders of the Sturmfels couple.

00:12:20 — Debunking Hollywood myths, Joseph Scott Morgan explains that gunshot wounds are not just dramatic effects; victims often realize they've been shot and experience pain.

00:13:00 — Gaskin's own words add horror to the narrative as Dave recounts the unsettling sounds Mrs. Sturmfels made during her final moments.

00:14:20 — Joe Scott dives into the world of forensics, explaining how a gunshot through glass has implications on bullet behavior. He describes how the bullet’s trajectory and energy are affected upon impact.

00:17:04 — Joseph Scott Morgan elaborates on snipers and the adjustments they have to make due to the influence of gravity on bullets, especially when glass is involved.

00:20:36 — The episode’s atmosphere becomes tenser as Morgan and Mack discuss Gaskin's execution of Mr. Sturmfels and his chilling confession.

00:21:00 — The term "death wheeze" is introduced as Joe Scott explains the physiological impact of a gunshot wound to the lungs.

00:24:01 — Dave summarizes Gaskin's crime spree; from killing to covering the bodies with blankets and burglary.

00:24:35  — Gaskin, dressed in all black and carrying a 22 rifle, drives to the home of Joseph and Mary Rector, where he shoots at them after waking them up.

00:26:20 — Dave Mack discusses the gunshot wounds and how the Rectors managed to escape.

00:28:20 — The hosts ponder Gaskin's motivations, diving into the psychology behind these appalling acts.

00:33:40 — The episode concludes with Joseph Scott Morgan revealing the final fate of the killer, a grim but just end to a twisted journey.

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Jonathan Willette is brutally murdered, his headless body discovered under mysterious circumstances and a chemical haze. The case is rife with complex family dynamics and an ever-changing narrative from the accused. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore the forensic complexities of identifying a headless victim, the psychology behind such gruesome acts, and the role of familial dynamics in criminal investigations. Morgan lends his expertise on death investigation, discussing everything from chemical smells at crime scenes to the increasing trend of decapitation cases. Together, they offer a comprehensive and chilling look into a murder case that defies easy explanation.

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00:00:00 — Joseph Scott Morgan sets the stage by discussing the complexities of death investigation. He introduces the episode's focus on the perplexing case of Jonathan Willette.

00:01:00 — The unique and complicated relationship dynamics in Jonathan Willette's case are revealed by Morgan. He describes how these complexities add another layer to the already gruesome murder.

00:02:00 — Dave Mack chimes in with his perspective, likening the case to a horror movie titled "Headless in Las Vegas." He discusses the emotional toll of discovering a loved one in such a state.

00:03:40 — Morgan uses the term "familial dynamic" to express his confusion over the complex family relationships in this case. He questions how these dynamics could have played into the crime.

00:04:00 — A haunting image is painted by Morgan as he describes the moment the victim's mother discovered her son's headless body. 

00:05:20 — Mack outlines the complicated relationship between the victim and his son, adding another layer of complexity to the case.

00:07:53 — Insurance could be a motive, suggests Morgan. He also alludes to a sinister confession made by the perpetrator during police questioning.

00:09:10 — A lighter moment occurs as Dave Mack recounts a humorous story from years ago. He describes a terrifying experience involving a seemingly breathing corpse.

00:11:04 — What's the protocol for a decapitated body? Mack inquires, leading Morgan to explain the crucial role of the medical examiner in such cases and elaborates on his role in crime scene investigations, particularly in cases involving severe body mutilation.

00:15:01 — The gruesome topic of decapitation in murder cases is discussed by both hosts. They ponder the mindset of the perpetrator and the circumstances under which it can happen.

00:18:42 — Mack questions the lack of a blood trail and the presence of a chemical smell at the crime scene, adding another layer of mystery.

00:19:30 — Morgan shares his experience with dangerous chemical combinations in morgues, highlighting the risks involved.

00:22:09 — Cleaning products at the crime scene? Morgan speculates on an attempt to clean up and what evidence might remain.

00:23:00 — The challenges of finding a disposed head in a garbage bin are explored by Morgan. He discusses the logistical difficulties involved.

00:23:40 — The accused admits to hitting Willette in the head, leading to a discussion on her changing narrative.

00:24:00 — Mack points out inconsistencies in the accused's story, questioning the credibility of her statements.

00:24:40 — The physical appearance of the body and a missing meat cleaver raise more questions for Mack.

00:25:20 — Morgan delves into the mechanics of using a meat cleaver for decapitation, discussing the likely injuries and marks left on the body.

00:27:00 — The episode wraps up with Morgan talking about potential tool marks that could help identify the weapon used. At the time of recording, authorities have only an accused person.

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Thirteen vulnerable babies in the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal ward fell victim to a series of horrifying crimes that shocked the medical community. Subjected to methods as cruel as air injections and insulin poisoning, their lives were put at grave risk. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack unravel the dark tale of Lucy Letby, the nurse responsible for these atrocities. They explore the systemic failures that allowed these crimes to go unnoticed, the role of autopsies in such cases, and the psychological aspects that might have driven Letby to commit these heinous acts that have forever changed the landscape of neonatal care

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00:00:00 — Joseph Scott Morgan opens the episode discussing the vulnerability of newborns and infants. 

00:01:17 — Joe Scott introduces the term "neonates," explaining that these babies are even more susceptible to harm due to premature birth or physical issues.

00:01:42 — The conversation focuses on the case of Lucy Letby, a nurse who attacked 13 babies in the neonatal ward. 

00:03:19 — Dave Mack notes that Lucy had specialized training for the neonatal unit. Her problems began almost as soon as she started working there.

00:04:00 — A brief history of the Countess of Chester Hospital is provided. Dave Mack points out that Lucy was the common denominator in all the cases.

00:09:03 — Joe Scott highlights the odd nature of the medication errors and the strict procedures for medication access. 

00:10:44 — The methodology used in administering medication through an indwelling IV is discussed, providing insight into how Lucy could carry out her actions.

00:14:44 — Joe Scott talks about the usual procedures when a baby is in distress. He points out that the unexpected reactions of the babies could have raised suspicions.

00:15:37 — Joseph Scott Morgan discusses the role of autopsies in understanding deaths. He notes how this process can be compromised in cases involving premature babies.

00:17:04 — A description is provided of the chilling scenario of a neonatal unit to which a dangerous person has access. 

00:20:00 — Joe details the lethal effects of air injections in the bloodstream and in feeding tubes, one of the methods Lucy used, causing immense pain and cardiac arrest. He talks about 

00:24:17 — Dave Mack talks about the unexpected nature of a nurse being a killer. He also talks about the moment a mother discovers Lucy in the act.

00:28:00 — The damning evidence found at Lucy's home, including clinical notes and confessions, is discussed. 

00:30:40 — Joseph Scott Morgan talks about the final three murders, including two brothers who were part of a set of triplets. He confirms that Lucy can be classified as a serial killer, pointing out the rarity of female serial killers

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Keith Palumbo and David Rossillo Jr. meet a grim fate in a double homicide; their bodies are discovered concealed inside a crypt within the eerie, abandoned Mount Moriah Cemetery.

Unraveling the complexities of this chilling case, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore the labyrinthine investigation that led authorities to the hidden burial site, thanks to a tip about Keith's disappearance and the involvement of a woman with close ties to both the Warlocks Motorcycle Club in Philadelphia and the cemetery.

The episode delves into the forensic intricacies—from gunshot residue on decomposing bodies to the challenges of DNA matching—and uncovers the lengths criminals will go to hide their heinous acts. It also touches on the human stories behind the headlines, offering a gripping journey through the dark corners of crime and justice. 

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00:00:20 — Joseph Scott Morgan discusses his comfort around the dead and introduces the topic of a double homicide case involving an old, abandoned burial ground.

00:02:14 — Joe Scott talks about Mount Moriah, a cemetery named after a biblical location. 

00:03:00 — Dave Mack introduces the victims, Keith Palumbo, a musician and tattoo artist, and David Rossillo Jr.,  who had no known connections to the Warlocks Motorcycle Club in Philadelphia. 

00:04:00 — Discussion of how Keith's disappearance was reported and the significant tip that led police to start their search at the cemetery. 

00:07:36 — Highlighting the logistical difficulties of the investigation, Joe Scott explains the challenges of accessing the burial site due to its depth and lack of a ladder or staircase. 

00:09:00 — Dave mentions that the police were expecting to find Keith Palumbo but discovered David Rossillo Jr.'s body as well. Morgan discusses the state of Rossillo’s remains.

00:11:00 — The hosts speculate about the crypt being used as a common dumping ground by organized crime groups, raising questions about the extent of criminal activity.

00:14:48 — Discussion about the significance of the carpet found at the crime scene, and speculation on its potential connection to the body.

00:15:00 — Morgan begins to explain what forensic evidence can be obtained from a decomposing body, particularly when a gunshot wound to the head is involved.

00:17:00 — An explanation of how bruises can still be detected on a decomposing body.

00:21:31 — The process of transferring remains from a crypt to a medical examiner's wagon, with added emphasis on the importance of maintaining the integrity of the remains.

00:25:22 — The challenges the police faced in identifying the bodies, particularly David Rossillo Jr., who had not been reported missing, and the role of informants in criminal investigations, particularly within tightly-knit organizations like motorcycle clubs.

00:32:53 — Joe Scott Morgan delves into the difficulties of determining a cause of death with skeletal remains, especially if the skull is fractured or parts are missing. He elaborates on how animals can complicate an investigation.

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Lovetta Armstead and her young daughter Jazzmen face a nightmarish reality: they are murdered in cold blood by Gary Green within the walls of their own home, the very space that should be their sanctuary. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the complexities of this chilling case, from Lovetta's thwarted plans to escape her malevolent partner to the unsettling psychology driving Green's actions. The episode uncovers letters that reveal Lovetta's intentions to leave her husband and the twisted psychology behind Green's devastating actions. With commentary on sharp and incised wounds, duct tape restraints, and a myriad of forensic evidence, this episode serves as a haunting yet informative dive into the harsh realities that forensic professionals confront in their quest for justice.

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00:00:20 — Joseph Scott Morgan sets the tone with personal anecdotes about death and introduces the spine-chilling family murder case.

00:03:00 — Dave Mack provides further context on the Armstead family and the malevolent Gary Green.

00:05:00 — Mack shares Lovetta Armstead’s gut-wrenching letters that reveal her desire to escape from Green; one particular letter outlines his calculated intentions to annihilate his family.

00:08:23 — Sharp force injuries are explained by Morgan, introducing listeners to the intricacies of homicidal drowning.

00:09:16 — Discussion of the brevity of Gary Green and Lovetta Armstead's marriage and the circumstances that led up to the fatal event.

00:10:24 — Morgan elaborates on the calculated tactics employed by Green, emphasizing his control over the fatal situation.

00:13:24 — The sequence of the murders is discussed by Morgan, suggesting the chilling possibility that Jazzmen was made to witness her mother’s murder.

00:15:42 — Incised wounds versus stab wounds are clarified, enlightening listeners on how these affect the body differently.

00:16:20 — The aftermath of a stabbing is graphically detailed, spotlighting the ensuing blood and damage.

00:18:40 — Jazzmen’s autopsy details are revealed, including the heartbreaking signs that she struggled until her last breath.

00:21:00 — The complexities of determining fatal stab wounds. 

00:24:36 — Joe Scott discusses the frightful reality of internal bleeding, especially in cases involving multiple stab wounds.

00:27:01 — Causes of death like hypoxia and signs of drowning are detailed by Morgan, rounding out the episode’s comprehensive forensic analysis.

00:30:39 — Joseph Scott Morgan comments on the chilling aftermath and Gary Green’s actions post-crime, wrapping up the episode with a look at the ultimate consequences.

00:32:20 — A recount of the dreadful discovery made by the surviving siblings. 

00:32:40 — The timeline of the crime’s aftermath, including Gary Green’s eventual death sentence.

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Several guests fall gravely ill and lose their lives after attending a meal hosted by Erin Patterson.

Among the victims, the symptoms were immediate and severe, but curiously, Erin's symptoms did not align with the rest, casting a shadow of suspicion over her. In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dive into the twisted tale of the death cap mushroom, a case that sends shockwaves across Victoria, Australia.

From exploring the forensic complexities of the case to uncovering the historical context of poisonings, Joe Scott and Dave guide listeners through a web of mysteries, detailed autopsy procedures, and the legal intricacies that come into play. 

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[00:00:20] Joseph Scott Morgan discusses various types of mushrooms, ending with the fatal death cap mushroom.

[00:03:04] Dave Mack tells the story of Erin and Simon Patterson's split, the deadly lunch, and the unfolding drama.

[00:05:11] A twist is revealed when Dave states that Erin's symptoms do not match those of the other guests.

[00:08:01] Joe Scott discusses the challenges of identifying toxins in a body.

[00:13:20] A pattern of people falling ill when Erin cooks, dating back to May 2022, is revealed.

[00:15:36] Details are shared about the gruesome effects of toxins on the liver and kidneys.

[00:18:44] Joe Scott contemplates intentional poisoning.

[00:19:16] References to historical cases of poisoning with death cap mushrooms.

[00:25:00] Morgan explains food identification even after digestion.

[00:30:33] Insight into the role of pathologists adds legal dimensions. 

[00:32:40] Questions about weaponizing common food items open a new line of inquiry.

[00:33:21] Joe Scott emphasizes the importance of medical charting.

[00:35:20] The investigation's scope broadens when considering other geographically close cases.

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When law enforcement takes aim at Roy McGrath, the incident leaves behind not only a dead man but a perplexing forensic puzzle. The complex details of this case, including McGrath's alleged financial misdeeds, his relationship with Governor Larry Hogan, and a controversial severance package, set the stage for a dramatic investigation. Hosts Joe Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore McGrath's political career, high-end fugitive lifestyle, and the fascinating forensics behind his demise. From the discovery of McGrath's SUV outside of Knoxville to the intricate process of examining gunshot wounds at the morgue, this episode dives deep into the truth and uncertainty that permeate the world of forensic science. A tale of bullets, lies, and a pursuit for truth, it's a story that's as complex as the wound tracks left behind.

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[00:00:00] Joseph Scott Morgan introduces the episode's topic, exploring law enforcement shootings and who investigates these incidents. He mentions the case of Roy McGrath, who was in the national spotlight and was being searched for by the FBI and U.S. Marshals.

[00:01:40] The critical question is asked: who polices the police?

[00:02:00] Joe Scott and Dave discuss the background of Roy McGrath, including his alleged financial misdeeds.

[00:03:40] The controversial severance package from the Maryland Environmental Service (MES) involving Roy McGrath is unveiled.

[00:08:41] Dave explains McGrath's reaction to the news of his fraudulent activities being exposed.

[00:09:40] The challenge of evading modern law enforcement agencies with advanced technology.

[00:12:17] Discussion about the suspect's escape, his property in Florida, and the fact that he had no plans of appearing in court.

[00:15:25] The dramatic scene unfolds where the FBI locates McGrath outside of Knoxville, raising questions about potential risks to bystanders.

[00:18:20] The case's complexity is explored, particularly the two separate wound tracks from simultaneous gunfire.

[00:23:22] An explanation of the process of examining gunshot wounds, illuminating hidden details.

[00:24:26] Morgan delves into the 'lead storm' concept, fragmenting lead that helps determine bullet trajectory.

[00:26:29] The difficulty in determining McGrath's cause of death is discussed, despite there being a gunshot wound.

[00:28:40] The concept of "acoustic shadows" is introduced as are questions about the process of reconstructing the event, touching on potential legal aspects.

[00:30:08] Morgan concludes, emphasizing the value of truth and uncertainty.

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Angela Rowe and her three children are executed in a night of terror, where the sanctuary of their home becomes the site of a horrifying massacre. The crime scene, locked from the inside, bears the marks of stealth and calculation, painting a grim picture of the final moments of this family's life. The bullets that ended their lives set off an intricate and multi-layered investigation. In this episode, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack unravel the complex forensics, dissecting elements such as the significance of the murder weapon, the absence of rigor mortis, skin slippage, and even the thermostat's role at the crime scene. The name Leonard Taylor surfaces as a suspect, leading to a discussion of his self-defense claims, the chilling methodology of his crime, the calculated nature of his acts, and his execution in the Missouri State Penitentiary on February 7th, 2023.

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00:00:20: Joe Scott Morgan introduces single motherhood's struggles and potential dangers. He reveals the focus on Angela Rowe's homicide case and her three children.

00:03:00: Dave Mack discusses the tragic outcome of Angela Rowe's case and the uncertainty surrounding the time of death.

00:05:06: Morgan explains the time lag in discovering the bodies.

00:08:28: Dave Mack questions how investigators maintain their composure and the emotional impact of dealing with child victims. 

00:11:20: Joe Scott explains the process of decomposition and how it is affected by factors such as temperature, and discusses the importance of observing the thermostat at a crime scene to understand the ambient environmental temperature

00:14:40: The terms “skin slippage” and “marbling” are explained.

00:16:39: Details about the locked house and the perpetrator's escape through a window are shared.

00:18:45: The focus on building a timeline leads to the mention of Leonard Taylor, and his claim of self-defense.

00:21:40: Morgan reveals the gruesome details of the autopsy report, explaining the multiple gunshot wounds each victim sustained.

00:24:51: The disturbing scene with the children as earwitnesses is described.

00:25:34: Joseph Scott Morgan reveals that the perpetrator was witnessed discarding a revolver into a sewer, a crucial piece of evidence that was never recovered. Challenges in determining the caliber are explained due to the absence of the weapon.

00:27:13: Dave Mack questions the importance of the missing murder weapon in the eyes of the jury.

00:28:29: Circumstantial evidence such as uncollected newspapers and mail is pointed out.

00:29:46: Joe Scott Morgan reveals that on February 7th, 2023, Leonard Taylor is executed in the Missouri State Penitentiary.

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Grant Solomon, an 18-year-old prodigious athlete destined for greatness, tragically loses his life in a perplexing incident. The initial account of Grant's death is filled with inconsistencies and suspicious circumstances—his father Aaron Solomon's conflicting stories, the mysterious disappearance of witnesses, and the lack of expected physical evidence all contribute to the mystery. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dig deep into these complexities, exploring everything from family dynamics and the meticulous details of attending professional sports training facilities to the forensics of accident investigations. Through expert analysis and engaging storytelling, they unravel a case shrouded in uncertainty. 

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[00:00:20] Joseph Scott Morgan reflects on the value of relationships with children and introduces the case of a young man who tragically died at 18 years old.

00:03:20 - Dave Mack introduces Grant Solomon, a blue chip athlete with a promising future, and his parents, who are well-established in their respective careers.

00:05:20 -  The mystery surrounding Grant Solomon's death and the potential motive that could be tied to family issues are shared.

00:08:02 - Dave and Joe Scott discuss the high cost and meticulous preparation involved in attending professional sports training facilities and the logistics of showing up to such a facility without an appointment, suggesting an oddity in the situation.

00:12:20 - Joe talks about young drivers' potential mistakes, leading to Grant's death, and emphasizes the importance of eyewitness testimony in car accident cases.

00:15:32 - Joe and Dave discuss the importance of experts in assessing mechanical failures and the process of examining vehicles post-accident.

00:18:00 - Dave narrates the incident as explained by Aaron Solomon, Grant’s father, the only known witness.

00:19:00 - Joe and Dave discuss the significance of a player's baseball gear, specifically the bat.

00:21:20 - Dave reveals the ongoing custody battle between Grant's divorced parents at the time of his death, a video captured unknowingly by Grant's mother, and the inconsistencies in Aaron's account of the events leading up to Grant's death. 

00:23:35 - Joseph Scott Morgan provides a detailed description of the scene, including the layout of the parking lot and the building. 

00:25:32 - Joseph introduces blunt force trauma, a leading injury cause in America.

00:30:16 - The condition of Grant's shoes and lack of typical accident wear and tear are discussed.

00:31:57 - Joe Scott emphasizes the likelihood of trace evidence and the unusual lack of it in Grant's case.

00:34:36 - Joe and Dave discuss the cause of Grant's death, a single injury to the back of his head, and consider alternative explanations for how it could have occurred.

00:36:30 - Questions arise about the narrative of Grant being rolled over, citing a lack of evidence.

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Ildiko Krajnyak, having just returned from a visit to her family in Hungary, finds herself on the cusp of a life-altering moment as she opens a seemingly innocuous package, only to be thrust into a realm of near-instant vaporization by a devastating explosion.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack unfurl the intricate threads of Stephen Beal's connection to Ildiko Krajnyak. They delve deep into the captivating dynamics that once defined the relationship between Beal and Krajnyak, former lovers and business partners, and explore the deadly explosion that tragically marked their intersecting paths.

Alongside this narrative, Joe Scott and Dave illuminate facets of the human psyche, the complexities of relationships, and the intricate artistry involved in crafting lethal devices. 

Time Codes:

00:00:20 - Joseph Scott Morgan introduces the potential inside a package, setting the episode's tone about potential energy and explosive themes, hinting at a devastating event where a package almost vaporized its opener.

00:03:20 - Stephen Beal, with his obsession as a model rocket hobbyist, is introduced as the episode's main subject.

00:04:20 - Dave Mack delves deeper into Beal's progression from model rockets to destructive explosives, he touches upon the mysterious circumstances surrounding Stephen's first wife, suggesting a potential link to Ildiko Krajnyak's case.

00:07:38 - Joe Scott discusses the challenges of assimilating into a new culture in the context of Ildiko, a Hungarian woman who was very attached to her family.

00:08:20 - Dave Mack elaborates on the professional relationship between Stephen and Ildiko Krajnyak after their romantic split with reflection on the complexities of maintaining business ties after a personal relationship ends.

00:10:40 - Dave gives insights into Ildiko Krajnyak's new romantic affiliations and Stephen's continued obsession with her. He narrates the tragic event when Ildiko was nearly vaporized after a package exploded as she opened it.

00:15:22 - Joseph Scott Morgan recalls a gas explosion from his past, shedding light on the horrors of such incidents. Dave Mack offers a riveting survivor's perspective on enduring an explosion.

00:18:31 - Morgan walks listeners through the investigator's precise methods in an explosion's aftermath, describes the challenges, and highlights the complexity of the task.

00:20:09 - The Olympic Park bombing is referenced, emphasizing the enduring trauma of explosion victims.

00:22:57 - Morgan describes the significance of minutiae at a crime scene, explaining the process of triaging survivors and securing a scene after an explosion, highlighting the potential of everything as evidence.

00:24:14 - Mack decodes the investigative process post-explosion, including deciphering the intended victim. The intricacies of blast trauma and bomb residue in forensic science are explained.

00:30:41 - Discussion of the complexities of constructing a lethal device with common materials, with emphasis on the importance of knowledge and access to the environment where the device will be placed.

00:32:07 - Dave Mack points out the immediate suspicions about Stephen Beal after Ildiko Krajnyak's tragedy and highlights the strategic search at Beal's residence, leading to explosive discoveries.

00:34:23 - Joe Scott Morgan expresses his suspicion over Beal's claim that he did not have the materials to create an explosion that large, pointing out the length of time it took for this case to make it through the system

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Remains are found in two locations along the New York Coast.

Legs are found in a plastic bag on Fire Island’s Blue Point Beach. A skull was found near the remains of Long Island Serial Killer victim Jane Doe No. 3, also known as “Peaches,” on a beach in Nassau County.  We now know the body parts are from the same victim:  Karen Vergata, 34, a mother of two. 

It took nearly 30 years to identify the dismembered remains. The cause of death isn't known. 

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack look at the case of Fire Island Jane Doe. 

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Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack provide an update and captivating insights into the intricacies of the Gilgo Beach case, the suspect, Rex Heuermann, and the challenges faced by investigators. Speculations arise surrounding Heuermann’s behaviors and the possibilities of further crimes despite his hiatus. They examine the intricacies of the case, the perplexing behavior of serial perpetrators, and how a deep understanding of forensics can shine a light on the darkest of mysteries.

Time codes:

[00:00:20] Joseph Scott Morgan tells of Benjamin Parks' gold discovery in 1828, the biggest in America back then, likening the gold discovery to forensic investigation, where evidence demands meticulous searching.

[00:02:00] Introduction to the episode’s main topic: the enigmatic Gilgo Beach murders and revelations of recent court developments.

[00:03:20] Dave Mack outlines the consuming nature of the Gilgo Beach investigation.

[00:04:00] Career impacts and missed chances due to the case's complications are touched upon by Joe Scott.

[00:05:00] The hosts dive into Rex Heuermann's arrest, his closeness to the crime scene, and possible additional charges in connection to the Gilgo Beach murders.

[00:06:20] Discussion on the recent court hearing for Heuermann and the significant evidence passed to the defense team.

[00:08:11] Dave Mack reveals the vast manhours and resources put into the Gilgo Beach murder investigations and elucidates how Shannon Gilbert's separate case led to discovering the Gilgo Beach murders.

[00:10:20] Heuermann's knowledge of Long Island, especially the waterways, and its potential use in evading detection is debated.

[00:13:12] The late DNA cheek swab request from authorities becomes a point of intrigue.

[00:15:27] The communication between Rex Humerman and his wife post-arrest sparks speculation. Joseph Scott Morgan contemplates whether Rex might have brought a victim to his residence.

[00:17:20] Evidence removed from Hueurmann’s Long Island home indicates possible renovations as methods to conceal evidence.

[00:20:00] The challenges of investigating a cluttered crime scene are delved into. 

[00:23:07] The tragic victims involved in the case are introduced. Joe Scott speculates about the Gilgo victims' cause of death, the scarcity of physical evidence, and the puzzling behaviors of serial criminals.

[00:26:00] Dave Mack addresses the murder's ongoing investigation and the nonexistence of a statute of limitations. The perpetrator's potential pause in crimes is questioned.

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11-year-old Martha Guzman's life is brutally cut short within a mere 30-minute timeframe at the hands of her mother's ex-boyfriend. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve deep into the harrowing details of Martha's murder, highlighting the tumultuous relationship casting a shadow over Martha’s domestic life and the implications it had on her mother's choices. Joe Scott draws attention to poignant details, in particular Martha’s painted fingernails. He further educates listeners on the chilling realities of wrist injuries and the dreadful intimidation wielded by knives. 

Time-codes:

[00:00:20] - Joseph Scott Morgan introduces the idea of time's fleeting nature and introduces the case of an 11-year-old girl whose life was taken within a 30-minute window.

[00:01:32] - The heart-wrenching reveal of Martha Guzman’s murder.

[00:08:06] -Dave Mack discusses Martha Guzman's home life, filled with chaos, alcohol, and abuse caused by her mother's boyfriend, Miguel Ruiz Lobo. Despite being only 11 years old, Martha recognized the toxicity of the relationship and convinced her mother to make the difficult decision to ask Lobo to leave.

[00:09:00] - The perils of an unstable household with an abusive partner and Martha's mother’s desperate attempt for a restraining order.

[00:10:22] - The gruesome details of the crime scene, along with a discussion about the shocking amount of blood resulting from sharp force injuries and the size disparity between the perpetrator and victim.

[00:13:00] - Dave Mack and Joe Scott discuss how Miguel Ruiz Lobo attempted to blame Martha for her own injuries, claiming self-harm to stage her death as a suicide.

[00:16:18] - Joseph Scott Morgan describes the horrifying moment a mother discovers her child's lifeless body and her desperate attempts to save the child. He talks about the mother's actions in the moment and the grim reality of the situation.

[00:17:23] - Morgan recalls haunting memories, noting Martha’s painted nails.

[00:23:51] - Discussion about the use of a knife as a means of terrorizing someone and an explanation of how it can be pressed against the skin to create a slight abrasion.

[00:24:48] - Morgan explains the critical function of wrist tendons.

[00:26:17] - Joe Scott and Dave touch on the nine-year-long journey to obtain justice for the victim, Martha Guzman. Joe Scott Morgan informs the audience of the outcome, bringing closure to this tragic case.

[00:26:40] - The episode ends with a strong message urging anyone dealing with domestic abuse to seek help. Joseph Scott Morgan provides the National Domestic Violence Hotline number (1-800-799-SAFE) as a resource for those in need of assistance.

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The FBI's investigation into James Knott's Kentucky home reveals a shocking discovery: 40 human skulls, femurs, hip bones, and spinal cords used as decorations. In response to this disturbing find, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve deep into the complex and unsettling world of how human remains are treated, examining the blurred boundaries between respect and violation. Through personal stories, including that of a mortician's questionable actions and a chilling account of James Knott's home adorned with human skulls, the duo grapples with society's morbid fascinations. Additionally, they explore historical figures like William Burke and contemporary controversies surrounding Harvard Medical School. The episode culminates in a somber reflection on the trade of human trophies in our digital age, and discussion of ethical dilemmas surrounding these issues, prompting us to question our society's values and the importance of respecting the dignity of the deceased.

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[00:00:20] - Joseph Scott Morgan gives an overview of his experience as a death investigator, introducing the episode's story about a man who worked for a prestigious institution and drove a car with vanity plate hinting at death

[00:04:00] - Joe Scott narrates a shocking tale of a mortician's twisted expression of love, and argues that the dead are the most defenseless and that those in the mortuary industry should honor the dead.

[00:06:20] - Dave Mack introduces the story of James Knott, a man in Kentucky whose home was raided by the FBI, leading to the discovery of 40 human skulls and other bones used as decorations.

[00:07:44] - Insight into the intricate and complex process of dissecting human brains and spinal cords is shared.

[00:10:13] - Joe's passion for history and architecture leads to a discussion on ossuaries in Portugal and Milan, Italy.

[00:13:00] - Joe recounts the chilling response of James Knott to FBI agents during a warrant execution and raises questions about Knott's motives and activities, speculating on the possibility of him being a necrophile, grave robber, serial killer, or trafficker in human remains.

[00:15:20] - A Harvard medical school bag's discovery thickens the plot around Knott.

[00:16:37] - Dave probes the enigma of preparing human remains for display, including cleaning and sourcing the remains. 

[00:19:40] - How can one acquire so many skulls? Joe presents his theories and also discusses methods of cleaning bones, including using bleach or a heating process.

 [00:23:20] - Joseph Scott Morgan delves into the history of William Burke and William Hare, two serial killers known for selling bodies for medical dissections, and explains the prohibition against human dissections in medical schools during that period, leading to a market for human remains.

[00:25:37] - The debate steers towards the legality and ethics of anatomical gifts, and the trust issues surrounding anatomical donations. Harvard Medical School's involvement in this case raises questions.

00:27:12] Morgan explains how certain individuals, including Cecil Lodge, former head of the Harvard Medical School Anatomical Gift Program, allegedly brokered human remains.

[00:28:06] - A step-by-step journey through the body dissection process in medical schools.

[00:29:38] - The morbid market of body parts as "souvenirs" is put under the spotlight. Dave highlights the modern-day horror of trading human trophies on social media.

[00:32:00] - Joe Scott contemplates the future repercussions of the episode's revelations on industry regulations.

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Stephen and Carol Baxter are discovered deceased, peacefully positioned side by side in their recliners in their seaside home on Easter morning. With the cold winds of Great Britain and the serenity of their repose, carbon monoxide poisoning is the initial suspicion. As the layers of this puzzle unfurl, new clues emerge. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dive into the mysterious deaths of a married couple, taking listeners on a journey through the complexities of crime scene investigations, the tragic dangers of carbon monoxide, and the lethal grasp of synthetic opioids. When the toxicology report unveils the presence of fentanyl in the couple's system, the case takes a darker turn. 

Time-codes:

[00:20] - Joe Scott Morgan sets the scene, discussing the unique coldness of being near the sea during cooler months. He then introduces the story of a married couple found dead in their home, initially suspected of carbon monoxide poisoning.

[01:35] - Joe Scott discusses his love for Great Britain and how its unique environment affects the inhabitants, specifically referencing the couple in question, Stephen Baxter and his wife, Carol.

[02:32] - Dave Mack describes the heartbreaking scene when the Baxter’s daughter, Ellie, finds her parents dead in their recliners. He discusses her immediate assumption of carbon monoxide poisoning and her actions to protect herself and her child.

[04:50] - Joe Scott Morgan returns to the scene, providing a more precise location of the couple's home and the characteristics of the area. He talks about the first responders' initial investigation, noting the lack of signs of forced entry or struggle, and the importance of considering all possibilities in an investigation.

[07:44] - The pivotal role of the initial reporter in a crime scene is highlighted. Joe stresses how their early observations can greatly influence the subsequent trajectory of the investigation, and shares a poignant moment when the daughter discovered her parents on Easter Sunday. 

[10:00] - Morgan shares his harrowing personal experience with carbon monoxide, illuminating the silent dangers investigators face. This anecdote also serves as a potent reminder of the gas's deadly potential.

[12:20] Mack questions how investigators transition from a peaceful scene to a full-blown investigation. Joseph Scott Morgan offers invaluable knowledge on the visual indicators of carbon monoxide poisoning, the process of checking for carbon monoxide in the house, and the role of the fire service.

[15:00] - Morgan talks about the challenge investigators face when there are no signs of forced entry, external trauma, or carbon monoxide poisoning, raising the possibility of double suicide. He explains what investigators would look for at the scene, breaking down the evidential requirements that would substantiate such a claim.

[17:40] - The lethal potential of carbon monoxide is revisited, focusing on its aftermath. Morgan and Mack discuss its deadly embrace and how it can deceive even the most seasoned investigators.

[00:20:20] - The narrative zooms out, shedding light on the affluent life led by the Baxters. Their status and lifestyle add a new dimension, prompting questions of motive and involvement.

[23:16] - Morgan explains the couple's health conditions and provides a crash course on the indicators of heroin usage at a crime scene. He reveals that the toxicology report for Mr. and Mrs. Baxter showed that they had fentanyl in their systems, a potent drug that has caused many deaths.

[25:41] - The conversation expands to the societal implications of fentanyl misuse. By tracing its origins from medical utility to illicit usage, listeners are offered a broader context of the drug's devastating impact.

[26:44] - Joe Scott Morgan reveals that three people have been charged in the Baxter's deaths.

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The trial of Taylor Schabusiness, accused in murder of her boyfriend Shad Thyrion is currently underway.  In this episode of Body Bags, hosts Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack look at the evidence coming out in the courtroom.   They discuss  the devastating impacts of drug usage, the murder weapons, and an unconventional dating relationship that culminated in Thyrion's brutal murder. 

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21-year-old Jasmeen Kaur is stalked and abducted from her workplace, subdued and placed into the boot of a car, transported along gravel roads to an isolated area, and buried alive by her ex-boyfriend, Tarikjot Singh. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack unravel the harrowing story of Jasmeen Kaur, a young nursing student, whose body is found in a shallow grave in South Australia's Flinders Ranges. Delving deep into the chilling facts, they highlight the disturbing acts leading to the crime captured by CCTV, the terror and uncertainty experienced by Jasmeen, and the signs of her desperate struggle while entombed. As they navigate the dark labyrinth of abusive relationships, police involvement, and the physical and psychological traumas endured by the victim, Joe Scott and Dave underscore the grave importance of recognizing and addressing signs of domestic violence.

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Leno and Rosemary LaBianca tragically find themselves thrust into the darkest depths of human cruelty.

Bounded by the twisted whims of their captors, the LaBiancas are subjected to unimaginable terror, and their lives are extinguished in a merciless act of violence. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve deep into the horrifying details of the LaBianca murders, orchestrated by Charles Manson and carried out by Patricia Krenwinkel, Leslie Van Houten, and Tex Watson.

They provide a comprehensive historical context and detailed account of the unsettling events leading to the murders, delve into the gruesome details of the crime scenes, uncover the Manson family's bizarre motives, and reveal the disturbing after-effects of their reign of terror. 

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"Body Bags", host Joseph Scott Morgan and renowned guest Dave Mack explore the complex world of the Gilgo Beach murders suspect Rex Heuermann, as investigators discover 92 gun permits and two storage facilities. With a media circus surrounding the search of Heurmann's possessions, a medical examiner's unexpected presence at one of the storage sites raises eyebrows and questions. What could be lurking inside? As Morgan and Mack unpack the investigative processes, from understanding decomposition to the role of cadaver dogs, they also shed light on a decade-long series of murders in Long Island. Oddities surface, including the peculiar behavior of a killer who seemingly retires after three victims and the challenges of sifting through a hoarder's chaotic household. This episode takes listeners on a rollercoaster of emotions, with new revelations promising to reshape the narrative of the notorious Gilgo Beach cases.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as delve deeper into the mysteries of the Gilgo Beach murders.

Time-coded Highlights:

[00:00:00] The episode kicks off with Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack exploring the latest on the Gilgo Beach murders.

[00:01:30] Mack drops a bombshell about Huerman's alarming collection of gun permits and the existence of two storage facilities.

[00:02:36] Mack comments on the rampant media attention and the unexpected appearance of a medical examiner at one storage site.

[00:03:18] Morgan decodes the reasons for summoning a medical examiner to crime scenes, drawing listeners into the world of forensics.

[00:06:50] Mack's skepticism surfaces, questioning the examiner's inconsistent appearances at the storage units.

[00:08:23] The spotlight turns to Long Island's decade-old mysteries, with Morgan giving insights into a defendant tied to three cases.

[00:09:30] The duo ponders the potential use of cadaver dogs before a medical expert's arrival, emphasizing their significance.

[00:11:00] Mack and Morgan dissect the erratic behavior of a suspected serial murderer, who ceased his actions after claiming three lives.

[00:12:00] Serial killer patterns emerge, with Morgan speculating on their familiarity with hunting grounds and possible storage unit links.

[00:14:00] Morgan postulates on killers' tendencies to retain "souvenirs", stressing the importance of a detailed home examination.

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A chilling 911 call from Shannan Gilbert leads to the discovery of the bodies of Melissa Barthelemy, Amber Costello, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, and Megan Waterman on Long Island's Gilgo Beach, each sharing harrowing similarities: they are all wrapped in burlap and thought to be the victims of a single, unknown killer. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take a closer look at the "Gilgo Beach Serial Killer" case, the crucial arrest of Rex Heuermann, and the groundbreaking use of forensic DNA, genetic genealogy, and physical evidence. They weave through the disturbing intricacies of the crime scene, the systematic preservation of the bodies, and the indelible impact on the Long Island community. Highlighting the importance of a careful examination of evidence, from weathered burlap to human hair, they shed light on the grueling process of analyzing skeletal remains and the complexities of such investigations. 

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Neighbors, noticing the unusual absence of 71-year-old Margaret Craig, request that police perform a well-visit check at her residence.

Responding police officers are invited into the home, and upon entering the basement, they are met with the smell of decomposition and copious amounts of blood near plastic trash bags. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the disturbing case of Margaret Craig, whose life allegedly ended at the hands of her own daughter and granddaughter.

They navigate the complicated nature of the crime scene investigation, discussing the disposal of human remains, the increasing prevalence of dismemberment cases, and the psychological aspect of perpetrators becoming comfortable with such gruesome acts. Joseph Scott and Dave also explore the complexities of forensic analysis, focusing on the methodology and tools used in these horrific acts.

They also discuss the challenges faced by investigators in determining the sequence of events and how these intricacies could impact the jury's decision.

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Konrad Imirowicz becomes the unfortunate victim of an explosive family dispute, enduring devastating and life-altering injuries that encompass his entire body from head to toe.

His prolonged suffering and eventual death are caused by an unsuspecting household item: lye soap. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dive into a chilling case surrounding the brutal death of Konrad Imirowicz, allegedly at the hands of his daughter, Megan, on her 18th birthday. As they unveil the shocking crime scene, Morgan and Mack navigate the intricate dynamics within the Imirowicz family, shedding light on Megan's discontent and the tragic escalation of a family dispute into murder.

With a focus on the damning evidence, they provide a glimpse into courtroom proceedings and the bone-chilling verdict. 

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Time-coded Highlights:

[00:00:20] Joseph Scott Morgan shares a nostalgic memory about his grandmother's butter churn and scrub board, unraveling the historical importance of lye, commonly used in soap-making, setting the stage for the episode's focus.

[00:02:20] Introduction of the dreadful case of Konrad Imirowicz and Megan Joyce Imirowicz, setting the stage for the familial dynamics in the case.

[00:04:53] Discussion on the harsh reality of chemical burns and their often irreversible effects.

[00:10:00] Reflection on the shock experienced by medical personnel while treating severely burned Konrad, and discussion on the turbulent family dynamics, revealing Konrad's drinking problem and its impact on Megan's birthday. 

[00:12:31] Mack discloses the horrific aftermath of the lye attack, painting a haunting picture of Konrad covered in drain cleaner.

[00:17:00] The psychological implications for Megan are discussed, highlighting her decision not to return to the crime scene and instead send her friend.

[00:18:20] Morgan talks about the possibility of the victim being hit with multiple items, and how this contrasts with the actual crime scene evidence, focusing on a large plastic container and the presence of a white powder.

[00:20:00] The discussion turns to the victim's state of consciousness.

[00:26:00] A shocking revelation is made about Megan's behavior post-incident, displaying a lack of concern for her father's critical condition.

[00:27:20] Mack reveals an overheard conversation that brings the Michigan State Police into the picture.

[00:28:00] Morgan and Mack dissect the improbability of Megan's defense, casting doubt on her innocence.

[00:32:40] The host explains the contributing factors to Konrad's death, highlighting his compromised health conditions.

[00:33:40] Megan Imirowicz's guilt is confirmed, with potential life imprisonment looming.

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Self-proclaimed 'Zombie Hunter', Bryan Patrick Miller is found guilty of kidnapping and murdering two young women. His victims, whose murders occur ten months apart from each other, are attacked while bicycling along a canal in Arizona; they are each fatally stabbed, their bodies horrifically mutilated, and each are sexually assaulted. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack weave the cultural phenomenon of the 'zombie apocalypse' into a compelling narrative about Miller, whose gruesome acts leave a long-lasting trauma on his victims and their families. Further unraveling the complex psychology behind Bryan Patrick Miller's actions, they discuss his involvement in the steampunk movement, the importance of forensic science in his eventual capture, and the crucial role forensic genealogist Colleen Fitzpatrick played in identifying Miller as the murderer. They explore the depths of Bryan Patrick Miller's criminal mind and offer a comprehensive look into this unsettling case and the far-reaching implications of his actions.

Time-coded Highlights:

00:20 - Joseph Scott Morgan delves into the intriguing concept of the apocalypse, illuminating how this theme has penetrated various aspects of pop culture, and introduces the case of Bryan Patrick Miller, a man who self-identifies as the 'Zombie Hunter'.

02:40 - Dave Mack speaks of the cultural phenomenon known as the 'zombie apocalypse,' shedding light on how it affects people's behavior and mindset, while Joe Scott emphasizes the trauma inflicted on the victims and their loved ones by Miller's horrifying actions.

04:20 - Dave delves deeper into Miller's background, uncovering his ties to the steampunk movement, including details about the former police vehicle converted into a ‘Zombie Hunter mobile’.

08:20 - The dichotomy between Miller's bold behavior and the façade of safety projected by his public persona. 

09:31 - Joseph Scott Morgan reflects on his experiences at the American Academy of Forensic Science meeting, emphasizing the need for multidisciplinary collaboration in solving complex cases and highlighting the value of pooling expertise across disciplines. 

10:20 - Drawing a stark parallel between a mountain lion attack and Miller's predatory behavior, Joe Scott shares a chilling anecdote. Dave builds on the analogy, introducing poignant details about Miller's victims and recognizing the diligent police work that eventually led to Miller's capture.

13:28 - Joe Scott and Dave delve into the gruesome specifics of Angela Brosso's murder, linking it to the infamous Black Dahlia case. 

16:20 - Discussion of the necessity of meticulous planning and discretion when committing crimes and how these elements facilitated Bryan Patrick Miller's evasion of the law, underscoring the significance of biological evidence left by Miller and outlining its crucial role in securing convictions.

19:00 - Details of the horrifying act of necrophilia committed by Miller, the damning evidence that led to his arrest, and an overview of the timeline of the crimes against Angela Brosso and Melanie Bernas.

24:20 - The meticulous physical assessment conducted at the crime scene of Melanie Bernas and the manner in which forensic experts deduced the type of tool used and the depth of the wounds. 

26:30 - Dave Mack discusses Bryan Patrick Miller's criminal history, including a previous stabbing incident and his time in a juvenile correctional facility.

32:03 - The spotlight turns to Colleen Fitzpatrick, whose expertise and passion in forensic genealogy was instrumental in narrowing down the suspect, and the role of modern science in solving such complex cases. 

35:50 - The alarming possibility of more undiscovered victims given the boldness of Miller's criminal patterns.38:00 - Information about the conviction and sentencing of Bryan Patrick Miller. 

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A 23-year-old South Korean woman, allegedly obsessed with books and TV shows about crime, is standing trial, accused of murder.

Concealing her dark intentions under the guise of a mother in need of an English tutor, Jung Yoo-jung lures an unsuspecting young woman to her home, only to subject her to a gruesome fate of stabbing and dismemberment.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the unsettling case of Jung Yoo-jung, a woman whose fascination with murder took a horrific turn from fandom to felony. They explore the inherent danger and obsession tied to true crime, share their personal experiences, and offer an insightful look into the genre.

Joe Scott and Dave also discuss the "God Complex": the sensory experiences tied to violent crimes, and the practical realities of planning and executing crimes. 

Time-coded Highlights:

00:00:20 - Joe Scott Morgan shares how he unwinds from his work in forensics and true crime and the measures he takes to maintain balance. He dives into the complex world of true crime, emphasizing its captivating danger and potential for obsession, and sheds light on why this genre draws people in, and what risks it might pose to extreme enthusiasts.

01:40 - Joe Scott introduces Jung Yoo-jung, a woman from South Korea who's not just obsessed with true crime but with the act of murder itself. 

02:02 - Dave Mack reveals his fascination with the Manson murders and discusses the profound impact of true crime on his life. He shares his thoughts on the power and influence of such narratives.

07:40 - Joseph Scott Morgan reflects on the uncomfortable questions he often faces about his work with the deceased.

08:20 - Morgan and Mack delve into the chilling story of Jung Yoo-jung, a true crime fan whose obsession led her down a dark path. Their discussion uncovers the disturbing intersection of fandom and criminal activity

10:43 - The infamous Leopold and Loeb case is brought up as a comparison to Jung Yoo-jung's actions, enriching the analysis of Jung's case.

11:42 - Dave Mack provides detailed background information on Jung Yoo-jung, painting a clearer picture of her life and obsessions. 

13:08 - Joe Scott introduces an intriguing aspect of violent crime - the interconnected senses of taste and smell.

16:43 - Description of Jung Yoo-jung's calculated approach to finding a victim—disguising herself as a middle schooler—and the alarming lengths she went to fulfill her obsession.

20:00 - Analyzing the suspect's failed plan to make her victim disappear, and discussion of how stabbing injuries can cause profuse bleeding, and the likelihood of leaving behind blood evidence when attempting to dismember a body, even when trying to clean the area.

24:54 - Joseph Scott Morgan cites a movie line about the foolishness of using a taxi to get to a crime scene, putting into perspective Jung Yoo-jung’s imprudent choices during her crime.

26:00 - Dave Mack informs listeners about Jung Yoo-jung's current legal status. 

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Three-year-old Adam Broomhall was mercilessly beaten and burned, a victim of unimaginable cruelty at the hands of an ex-Marine—his mother’s boyfriend. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the heart-wrenching details of Adam's life and the horrific actions of Richard Fairchild, an ex-Marine turned child abuser. They provide insights into the chaotic domestic environment, the court process, and how forensic details can vividly depict a victim's experience. Additionally, they explore the psychological aspects of child abuse and the heartbreaking injuries Adam endured, leading to a discussion on Fairchild's ultimate fate.

Time Code Summary:

00:00:20 - Joseph Scott Morgan introduces the episode's tragic subject: the case of Adam Broomhall, and discusses the origin of the word tortura and its relevance to the case.

00:04:18 - Dave Mack questions Joe Scott about the court process when dealing with graphic details, providing insight into the judicial system's approach to the importance of factual accuracy in court presentations.

00:09:33 - The revelation of the negligence of the adults in Adam Broomhall and his siblings’ lives, who are consumed by alcohol and indifferent to the children's safety, and adding another layer of tragedy to the case, Charity Wade's plight is revealed.

00:11:37 - Discussion of the crucial developmental stage of a child's life, highlighting the long-term impact of neglect and abuse.

00:13:19 - Joe Scott contrasts Richard Fairchild's Marine background with his heinous actions, illustrating the stark contradiction between his past role, his present conduct, and the event that led to physical violence.

00:16:48 - Dave Mack draws from personal experience as a parent regarding bed-wetting, highlighting the everyday struggles that can trigger abuse in volatile households.

00:19:33 - Examination of the chaotic environment and the sequence of injuries in Adam's case, shedding light on the systematic nature of the abuse.

00:21:55 - Joe Scott Morgan discusses the frenulum and its relevance to child abuse cases, providing a forensic perspective on physical trauma.

00:25:03 - The challenges of determining the timeline of abuse, emphasizing the complexity of investigations in child abuse cases.

00:26:42 - Joe Scott reveals the horrific details of how Adam was struck and burned by Fairchild, a heart-rending moment that underscores the severity of the crime.

00:30:20 - A horrifying detail is revealed - the fact that Fairchild burned Adam against a wall heater, causing second-degree burns and immense pain to multiple areas of his body.

00:32:00 - Discussion of the thorough autopsy performed on Adam, revealing the extent of his injuries and highlighting the importance of forensics in understanding the true nature of the crime.

00:33:20 - Joseph Scott Morgan recounts how Fairchild threw Adam into a table, causing the final fatal blow, a chilling climax to the night of horror.

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Harmony Montgomery, a visually impaired little girl living in a turbulent environment with drug-addicted parents, is missing and presumed murdered.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore Harmony's chaotic world as she moves from her mother's custody into the foster care system and into the care of her enigmatic and troubling father, Adam.

As Joe Scott and Dave navigate the complexities of Adam Montgomery's ongoing trial, unraveling the intricacies of DNA evidence and search warrants, the desperate search for Harmony and the quest for the truth surrounding her disappearance intensify.

Timecodes:

00:01:20 - Joe Scott Morgan introduces the tragic case of Harmony Montgomery, a visually impaired little girl who is now missing and suspected to be a victim of murder.

00:03:00 - Dave Mack discusses the devastating impact of drug addiction on children, explicitly highlighting Harmony's situation with both parents struggling with substance abuse.

00:06:00 - Joe Scott provides a glimpse into Harmony's tumultuous life, surrounded by threatening figures and constantly shifting homes.

00:07:20 - Dave shares background information on Harmony's parents—her drug-addicted mother, Crystal, and her criminally inclined father, Adam.

00:08:20 - The narrative takes a turn as Harmony is removed from her mother's custody and placed into the foster care system.

00:09:00 - Harmony's father, Adam, regains custody, pulling her back out of the foster care system.

00:10:00 - Adam and his partner, Kayla, restrict Harmony's contact with her biological mother, Crystal, further isolating the child.

00:11:00 - Crystal struggles to maintain contact with her children, Harmony and Jameson, amidst her own battles, and the first signs of Harmony's disappearance emerge as family members notice her sporting a black eye.

00:13:00 - Joe Scott reflects on the stereotypical image of a missing child search and the deviation of Harmony's case from this norm.

00:14:15 - Harmony's stepmother, Kayla, who has three biological children, confesses to regular drug use. 

00:15:40 - Adam severs contact with Crystal and others regarding Harmony in April 2019, deepening the mystery around her.

00:16:45 - Discussion of the implications of Harmony's black eye, and potential underlying injuries that could result from such physical abuse.

00:19:27 - Insight into the dangerous, chaotic, and cramped living environment.

00:21:00 - Joe Scott laments the scarcity of clear evidence in Harmony's case, highlighting the challenges investigators face.

00:22:12 - Dave shares details of the ongoing trial against Harmony's father, Adam  Montgomery, and his ex-wife, Kayla's testimony.

00:24:40 - Adam is indicted on an assault charge for hitting Harmony, which might be connected to her disappearance.

00:25:00 - The police identify December 7th, 2019, as the likely date of Harmony's suspected murder.

00:25:44 - Joe Scott discusses the concept of corpus delecti, explaining the importance of finding physical evidence in murder cases.

00:27:20 - The search for evidence intensifies as police and federal teams dissect the family home, leading to a potentially ominous discovery about the family refrigerator.

00:30:40 - Joe Scott highlights the significance of understanding the source and volume of DNA found at a crime scene, particularly blood, and the implications of finding a large volume of blood at a crime scene.

00:32:40 - Jospeph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the process of obtaining search warrants, emphasizing the necessity of specificity in requests.

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