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Episode 291: Why you don’t need all the answers to take the first step with Lilley Line founder Stephanie Lilley
Guest: Stephanie Lilley, Founder & CEO, The Lilley Line
This Week’s Topic:
Feel the fear and do it anyway! Let Stephanie Lilley’s story inspire you to stop overthinking and start taking action, even if you don’t have all the answers (because who does?).
From lawyer to education advocate to farmer’s market vendor to Oprah’s Favorite Things List, Stephanie’s journey is proof that passion, guts, and a willingness to learn (and to ask for help) can be your best business plan.
Key Takeaways:

* Just start: Why “perfect” is the enemy of “progress,” and why that very first step is the most important.
* Don’t let perfect planning paralyze you: Success requires making mistakes, embracing them as lessons, and moving forward stronger.
* Problem-solving with impact: How focusing on a real need (and not a business plan) can lead to surprising opportunities.
* Reach out, build community: The importance of mentorship, asking for help, and connecting with others on similar entrepreneurial paths.
* The beauty behind the bag: Learn the story of how The Lilly Line empowers artisans while offering beautiful, practical, hand-woven products.

Links:

* The Lilley Line
* Find The Lilly Line on social media: [Instagram, Facebook]
* Follow Laura Cox Kaplan: [she said/she said podcast, Instagram Laura Cox Kaplan, Linked In Laura Cox Kaplan,Facebook Laura Cox Kaplan ]

 
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Feedback:

* Inspired by Stephanie’s story? Share your thoughts, and let’s dive deeper into taking bold action! Contact me via email (info@shesaid.media), social media, or a review on your favorite podcast app.

 
About She Said, She Said:
She Said, She Said is your weekly source of inspiration and practical advice to help you harness your influence and have the life and impact you want to have. Hosted by She Said / She Said Media founder Laura Cox Kaplan.
Want more inspiration? You’ll find all our episodes here: She Said/She Said Podcast
Thank you for listening!

290. How to manage your energy to maximize your productivity
Guest: Laura Mae Martin, Google’s productivity expert and author of “Uptime: A Practical Guide to Personal Productivity and Wellbeing”
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
How many times have you said to yourself, “My email inbox is out of control, but to deal with it would take an endless amount of time!” I’ve certainly said that. In fact, my email problem has been building for well over a decade. The more those unopened, unread, un-responded to emails pile up the more overwhelmed it makes us feel. That overwhelmed feeling can distract us and shift our focus from what matters, while also causing us to miss all sorts of great opportunities.
This problem has only grown worse as most of us are also now monitoring messaging functions in other apps.
For the purposes of today’s conversation, email is only one small part. The bigger theme is how learning to manage all of those pesky to dos — like email — in ways that leverage our natural energy flows, can help us create a more productive and happy existence as well as give us more time for our highest priorities.
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:  Laura Mae Martin is Google’s productivity expert and the author of “Uptime: A practical guide to personal productivity and wellbeing.”
Laura has spent the past 13 years building strategies and tools to help Google execs be their most productive and she’s sharing these thoughtful, down-to-earth approaches with us. Laura is also the mother of three young children under age 5.
WHAT YOU WILL LEARN FROM THIS CONVERSATION:
This isn’t just a conversation about email — we also talk about:

* How Laura ended up Google’s productivity guru when she started out in sales.
* How to use zero-based calendaring.
* Why you should consider grouping your to dos together.
* Why weekly and daily themes can be helpful for structuring your days and weeks.
* How you can rethink “urgent” and build “urgent” time into your day.
* Why managing your energy flow is key to your most productive self.
* And, of course, email tips!

 
LINKS:
Laura’s book: “Uptime: A practical guide to personal productivity and wellbeing.”
Laura’s website where you’ll find helpful downloadables 
FEEDBACK:  I’m always excited to hear your feedback. You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 290:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  Or, email me: info@shesaid.media
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Episode 289: Learning to Listen to the voice who knows you best
Guest: Kendra Bracken-Ferguson 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: 
Have you ever found yourself navigating a difficult project, or situation in your business that leaves you to question whether you should stay the course or just pivot? I feel confident this is something you’ve faced. The real question is, how did you decide? What was the process you used to determine whether difficult and hard were actually “too difficult and too hard” and not worth the continued sacrifice and struggle. 
Not all challenges are created equal. Determining which ones are worth fighting for requires particular tools that can help you determine how the particular struggle aligns with other core values and goals. This is one of my favorite parts of this week’s conversation. I think you’ll love it, and this week’s guest too!
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Kendra Bracken Ferguson is an internationally acclaimed thought leader, founder, venture capitalist, and CEO of the BrainTrust. She is also the author of a terric book called “The Beauty of Success: Start, Grow and Accelerate Your Brand.” Kendra is also the host of the “Business of the Beat” podcast, and she is one of the first Black women to raise more than $1 million in investment for her debut company. 
While her career started in public relations, she found her way to investing and to offering her high profile client base (think Halle Barry, Drew Barrymore, Gabrielle Union, L’Oreal, and Under Armour) a unique set of brand defining offerings and investment opportunities. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN EPISODE 289: 

How Kendra learned to lean in to opportunity. 
How her early career experiences informed the investment and brand work she does today.
How Faith informs Kendra’s pivots and priorities.
Kendra shares her 5 core pillars for alignment and decision making.
She also uses her core pillars as journal prompts! Love that!!
Why Kendra advises that we have to be careful that “research” isn’t actually an act of comparison (researching the competition is important, but losing sight of our own unique value proposition isn’t). 
How to know when difficult is actually too difficult and means it’s time to pivot. 
Learning to reframe “difficult”

This conversation is part of our third collaboration series with the creative entrepreneur network The Southern C. 
FEEDBACK:  I’m always excited to hear your feedback. You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 289:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  Or, email me: info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
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LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE: 
Kendra Bracken-Ferguson
Kendra’s book: “The Beauty of Success: Start, Grow and Accelerate Your Brand”

Episode 287: How being open to possibility paved the way for an unexpected brand pivot and great success
Guest: Amy Voloshin, cofounder, Printfresh
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Ever find yourself headed down one path only to find that all your experiences and training have led you somewhere very different and even better than you might have imagined?
That’s one of my favorite parts of Printfresh founder Amy Voloshin’s story. Her experience and training in textile design ultimately paved the way for her business Printfresh, and the vibrant, playful sleepwear aesthetic for which she and her brand are known. But, that’s not exactly where she started!
Would Amy’s evolution into sleepwear, and now apparel have been as successful without those early career experiences she talks about in this episode? Probably not. The key here is how she was willing to remain open to possibilities that she hadn’t originally considered.
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:
Amy Voloshin, along with her cofounder and husband Leo, created Printfresh in 2017 and launched into sleepwear. While they have continued to grow and evolve the business, their bread and butter continues to be the colorful loungewear aesthetic that leaves one wanting to stay in their pjs well after breakfast!
Printfresh has twice received the Inner City 100 Business Growth Award, and Amy was part of Goldman Sachs’s 10k Small Businesses Program.
Amy studied textile design at the Rhode Island School of Design. She, Leo and their two children live in Philadelphia, where Printfresh is headquartered.
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE:

* How Amy and her cofounder created the brand we now know as Printfresh.
* Why she evolved Printfresh from a B2B to a B2C business.
* How the pandemic ultimately provided a major boost to the business.
* The importance of leaning into core values even when they are an investment, specifically size inclusivity and sustainability.
* Amy’s thoughts on collaborations and picking the right partners.
* Amy’s perspective on prioritization and balancing the need for creativity against brand consistency.

This conversation is part of our third collaboration series with the creative entrepreneur network The Southern C.
AMY HAS SHARED A SPECIAL SURPRISE FOR YOU!  Be sure to use PROMO CODE: SHESAID to receive 20 percent off your Printfresh order from April 12-May 31, 2024. This generous, limited time offer is the perfect opportunity to do your Mother’s Day shopping, and to pick up something nice for YOU!
FEEDBACK:  I’m always excited to hear your feedback. You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 283:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  Or, email me: info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook.
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LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE:
Printfresh
The Southern Coterie
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Episode 286: How intention and a “Travel Joy List” can help you maximize vacation memories
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Ever feel overwhelmed by the mix of emotion at the end of a vacation or family trip? Or, maybe you find that all those incredible memories you made begin to fade much too quickly?
Making lasting memories is an important part of recharging, but getting the most from these experiences can require setting some intentions. 
This week, as I sort through the physical (and emotional) baggage at the end of our family Spring Break trip to Europe, I wanted to share a few strategies that I’ve found valuable that might work well for you.  
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE: 
Why it’s valuable to be intentional about your vacation downtime during the trip. 
The value of organizing your photos, notes, and thoughts each day v. waiting until the end of your trip. 
How to organize your photos on your phone. 
Tips on making sure you capture a range of photo images. 
How a “Travel Joy List” can help you build core memories, and why it’s a wonderful souvenir to give yourself after a trip. 
 
I’d love to hear your feedback on this or any of my episodes. And, if you have other great travel tips, I’d love to hear those too! Please share! You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 286:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  Or, email me: info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere!  
 
LINKS MENTIONED: 
She Said/She Said Podcast + The Southern C Collaboration Series 2022, 2023, 2024:  https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7IR7mcn0cV7Vle8v5EoxJ4?si=5WMKtw94QjevJzRkRMVOug&pi=u-0DGod7WkQbOx
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SHOW NOTES Episode 285: Building a community that connects, collaborates and creates together!
Guests: The Southern C Founders Cheri Leavy and Whitney Long 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: 
Ever find that when someone in your network says “You would be so great at that,” or maybe when they suggest an opportunity for you, their vote of support can supercharge your confidence? 
I’ve benefited from that type of encouragement more times than I can count. It’s a powerful gift for both the giver and the receiver! 
That is one of many reasons why it can be so critical to build a strong support network and community. 
This week, we dig into why building and being part of a community can create significant momentum for your business, why it can be a vital component for problem solving and shared learning, and of course how it can result in mutually beneficial collaborations. The benefits don’t stop there. The connections we create through shared community are a vital part of the human experience. We’re likely to live longer and experience much deeper levels of happiness, gratitude and ultimately success — however we define it — when we are intentional about community. 
THIS WEEK’S GUESTS:  I’m joined by my two wonderful friends Cheri Leavy and Whitney Long. Cheri and Whitney are the co-founders of The Southern C, a network for creative entrepreneurs and a collaboration partner of mine for the past three years! 
These two amazing women saw a need they and other entrepreneurs were experiencing, and sprang into action to fill it. Today, the Southern C provides support, education, connection, and endless opportunities to collaborate for creative entrepreneurs. 
If you’ve been listening to She Said/She Said Podcast for a while, you’ve heard from some of the women who are part of The Southern C network. Their stories, advice, and perspective are a big part of what makes The Southern C such a special organization.  Today, you’ll hear directly from the group’s founders!
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THE CONVERSATION: 

How Cheri and Whitney built The Southern C
What makes this particular network so unique 
What they have learned over the past 11 years
How they have deployed their own transferable skills into creating and building The Southern C
Some great examples of The Southern C at work!

There is so much great advice and perspective in this episode, and I’m excited to hear your feedback. You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 285:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  Or, email me: info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere!  
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE: 
The Southern C
Libba Osborn 
Jackie Thompson
Shop Buru
Gaines Jewelers 
LCB Style
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Episode 284. From graphic artist to fashion designer: how to use joy as a transferable skill! With Emily McCarthy
TOPIC: Building a joyful aesthetic into your brand or business is easier said than done. It takes more than just vibrant colors to spark a feeling and create a connection with your customer. Even more challenging is to take an aesthetic that’s working and continue to innovate and evolve it while staying true to your original vision. 
Episode 284 is part of our third collaboration series with the creative entrepreneur network The Southern C. 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: Emily McCarthy is the founder and CEO of her namesake brand Emily McCarthy, a joyful, color-infused brand Emily started as a small graphic design business and has grown into a thriving fashion design brand. She’s earned a repeated spot on Savannah’s must visit list of unique shopping destinations! Joy is at the heart of all that Emily creates, and how she engages her customer.  
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THE CONVERSATION: 

How Emily took risks to build and grow her business
How she made a joyful aesthetic a transferable skill
Emily’s advice for how to deal with copycats and those who attempt to steal your designs and intellectual property
Emily’s advice for weeding through confusing input to make the decisions that are best for your business
How Emily thinks about and fuels her creativity
Her advice for balancing work and family as an entrepreneur

There is so much great advice and perspective in this episode, and I’m excited to hear your feedback. You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 283:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  Or, email me: info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere!  
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE: 
About Emily McCarthy
The Southern C
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Episode 283: How to create a uniquely special customer experience with The Colony Hotel’s Sarah Wetenhall
Guest: Sarah Wetenhall, CEO + Co-owner The Colony Hotel Palm Beach
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: 
Creating a unique experience for your customer or client is often what separates the most successful brands from their competition. That’s also true as it relates to our personal brands. What are those unique aspects of your story, your values, your experiences that come together to create your own one of a kind brand? And, what is the discipline required to make sure your potential customer understands who you are and what you stand for? 
As part of our third collaboration series with the creative entrepreneur network The Southern C, we’re diving into the most important elements of building a strong and unique brand, and how doing so can be an important element in creating and building our influence.  
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: Sarah Wetenhall is the award-winning, CEO + Co-owner of The Colony Hotel Palm Beach, and the visionary behind Palm Beach’s historic Pink Paradise. A former public relations and marketing exec at major fashion houses including Calvin Klein, Dolce & Gabbana, and Hugo Boss, Sarah’s pivot to hotelier came following an almost decade-long break to raise her three children. Guided by decades of time spent in Palm Beach and an acute attention to detail, she created a stylish, multi-generational pink oasis that preserved the property’s storied history and engages visitors with a vibrant and refreshed luxury experience. She was recently named one of Hotel Magazine’s Top Ten Independent Hoteliers. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THE CONVERSATION: 

How Sarah found her way to The Colony.
How she took what she learned from major fashion houses about building a unique brand and deployed that knowledge in revitalizing The Colony.
How Sarah tackled aspects of revitalizing The Colony that were entirely new to her.
Sarah’s advice for developing a mission statement to guide your brand and all the decisions that will follow. 

There is so much great advice and perspective in this episode, and I’m excited to hear your feedback. You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 283:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  Or, email me: info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere!  
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE: 
About Sarah Wetenhall
The Colony Hotel Palm Beach
The Southern Coterie
 
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282. How following your creative passions can lead to incredible success! with interior designer Paloma Contreras
TOPIC: 
Have you ever talked yourself out of taking a leap or trying something new because you convinced yourself that you needed another degree, an additional certification, more experience, a better network, more followers, more downloads, or just MORE? 
Qualifications and experience are incredibly important to be sure, but sometimes we let what we think is required of a job or new pursuit stand in the way of our even taking the first step toward learning important new skills. 
This part of my conversation with award-winning interior designer and best-selling author Paloma Contreras is one of my favorites. 
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Paloma Contreras honed her distinct eye for style over more than a decade in the design industry, and developed a reputation for designing beautiful interiors in her signature modern-meets-traditional aesthetic resulting in spaces that feel polished, refined, and effortless. 
Paloma has repeatedly been named to the prestigious ELLE Decor “A-List” of the top interior designers in the world. She has also been recognized as a “Next Wave” interior designer by House Beautiful and has been named to LUXE Magazine’s “Gold List”. Paloma has been named one of the Top Social Media Influencers in the Home category by Forbes and has one of the Top 10 Instagram accounts to follow for interior design, according to ELLE Decor. Her work has been featured extensively in countless publications including ELLE Decor, Architectural Digest, House Beautiful, Vogue, Domino, Luxe, Traditional Home, Southern Living, among others. 
Paloma designs a lighting collection for Visual Comfort & Co., and has written two best-selling design books: “Dream Design Live,” and “The New Classic Home.” Her curated retail shop, Paloma & Co, opened in Houston’s River Oaks neighborhood in January 2019, and has expanded to include an online platform. 
Paloma’s pivot from high school Spanish teacher to design blogger, to marketing exec, to interior designer and author, have one critically important thing in common: Paloma wasn’t afraid to try to do something she would have to learn on the job. She also wasn’t afraid of the setbacks and even failures that would come with trial and error, and she certainly wasn’t afraid of hard work. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 

How Paloma made the career pivot from high school Spanish teacher to award-winning interior designer;  


How Paloma thinks about the creative process and where she finds inspiration;


How she built her multi-faceted design business;
How she learned how much to charge for her work;
How she turned a blogging hobby into a multi dimensional design business with fabulous collaborations; 
Paloma also shares some very tactical advice on accessorizing and adding those very personal layers that turn a house into a home that reflects its occupants. 

 
I’m excited to hear your feedback on this episode! Click here: shesaidshesaidpodcast.com , or email me: info@shesaid.media to send me your thoughts. 
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LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE: 
About Paloma Contreras

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Episode 281: How to the build confidence needed for big career pivots featuring benefit auctioneer Lydia Fenet
Guest: Lydia Fenet, benefit auctioneer and best selling author
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: 
Ever feel like others are better equipped to take those big, bold career leaps? Or maybe you wonder, where does their confidence come from? 
This week’s guest emphasizes that confidence isn’t something you are born with: It’s a skill and one that you can develop with practice, hard work, and persistence. 
In the second episode of our third collaboration series with the creative entrepreneur network The Southern Coterie, we’re diving into the most important elements of confidence and how they can fuel our big career and business leaps, as well as our most audacious goals. 
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: Lydia Fenet is the founder and CEO of the Lydia Fenet Agency, which represents best in class charity auctioneers. Over her two-decade long career, Lydia served as the Global Managing Director of Strategic Partnerships for Christie’s and reshaped the fundraising landscape as the world’s leading charity auctioneer. She has raised more than $1 billion for more than 800 organizations. The author of two best selling books, “The Most Powerful Women in the Room is You” and “Claim Your Confidence,” Lydia has helped break down barriers for women both in the auction world and beyond. She’s also the host of the Claim Your Confidence podcast. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THE CONVERSATION: 

Why Lydia left her prime post at Christie’s at the top of her career. 
How building your confidence is a skill.
What every single person needs to understand about sales.
How you can build the muscle needed to lean into your most authentic self and your boldest dreams. 

There is so much great advice and perspective in this episode, and I’m excited to hear your feedback. You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 281:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  Or, email me: info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere!  
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE: 
About Lydia Fenet
About the Lydia Fenet Agency
The Most Powerful Woman in the Room is You 
Claim Your Confidence
The Southern Coterie
 
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Until next week, you take care and I’ll talk to you soon. 
She Said/She Said Podcast is produced weekly by She Said/She Said Media, LLC and this episode is produced in collaboration with The Southern Coterie. 

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Episode 280: How to weave the power of collaboration into your brand
Guest: Sophia Demirtas, founder of fashion design house Fanm Mon
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
When we allow ourselves to think broadly, and to ignore tendencies toward comparison, it can enhance our ability to create, and can help us do so in bigger and bolder ways.
As we kick off our third collaboration series with the creative entrepreneur network The Southern Coterie, it’s fitting that we kick off the series with an entrepreneur whose approach to collaboration is deeply embedded in her past career as a social worker, as well as in her rich Haitian heritage.
When collaborations don’t work, it may be because they simply aren’t a good fit. But, it’s also possible that one side –or both — may be missing an other-oriented approach that is rooted in empathy. 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: Sophia Demirtas is the founder of Turkish-based fashion house Fanm Mon. Fanm Mon is known for its gorgeous embroidery, made-to-order designs, and attention to special details that are a nod to Sophia’s Haitian heritage. But Sophia’s career didn’t begin in fashion. It’s that interesting detail that informs how she approaches the many collaborations she and her company are engaged in, and also how she manages her team. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THE CONVERSATION: 

How Sophia built Fanm Mon.
Sophia’s philosophy behind the brand.
Her path to becoming a fashion entrepreneur.
Why she embraced a made-to-order model. 
How she approaches collaborations with other brands.
The challenges of building a brand in a country that is new to you.
Scaling the brand.
Different approaches to collaborations with other brands and with influencers.

There is so much great advice and perspective in this episode, and I’m excited to hear your feedback. You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 280:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  Or, email me: info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere!  
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE: 
About Fanm Mon
About our collaboration partner The Southern Coterie
 
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Until next week, you take care and I’ll talk to you soon. 
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Episode 279: What can we do to create more civility in society? 
Guest: Alexandra “Lexi” Hudson
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Ever feel like the world has turned into an ill mannered, totally uncivilized place? A place where civility and politeness in our daily lives often feels like a thing of the past? 
I recently read Alexandra “Lexi” Hudson’s new book “The Soul Of Civility: Timeless Principles To Heal Society And Ourselves.” I was blown away by the thoughtful, deep dive this book takes into this topic of civility. The book goes well beyond how we treat each other, and discusses how individual actions impact democracies. Lexi also talks about how our actions can serve as the antidote to both loneliness and to a longing for identity that too often has become intertwined with political affiliation. Perhaps most importantly and most relevant for a podcast that focuses on building and using our personal influence, we talk about the specific actions we can take to create a more civil society. 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
In addition to being an author and thought leader, Lexi is also the founder of Civic Renaissance — a publication and community dedicated to “beauty, goodness and truth.” 
Her book — which took almost 10 years to write –is a timely, relevant, and thought provoking read as it addresses so many of the feelings, thoughts, and emotions that can be difficult to work through when the stakes feel so high during a contentious election cycle. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THIS CONVERSATION: 

The distinction between civility and politeness and why that distinction matters. 
How our our personal identities in many ways have become captive to our politics, and why that’s pushing us further apart. 
How we each can take responsibility for shifting our mindsets about this problem, and begin to think in terms of oriented-ness. 
Some ways we can achieve a better balance between other oriented-ness, self care, and personal boundaries. 

 
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LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 279: 
Lexi’s book: “The Soul Of Civility: Timeless Principles To Heal Society And Ourselves.” 
Civic Renaissance

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Episode 278: Can understanding the enneagram help you crush your 2024 goals, or at least help increase your awareness of beahviors that might stand in your way? Enneagram Coach Beth McCord
Topic: Ever heard of enneagram? 
After taking the FREE enneagram quiz offered by this week’s guest (see link below where you can take the quiz), I was curious about how the 9 types relate to each other, and how it would match up against other personality tests. 
Finding ourselves in the midst of transitions or pivots can often be one of the most important times to dial into our core tendencies and understand how they may be motivating our behaviors — for better, and for worse. It can also offer a powerful tool for goal setting by helping us get more clear on our inherent motivations and emotional drivers. 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:  Enneagram coach and author Beth McCord has been teaching and coaching others on the use of enneagram for more than two decades. She co-founded her business “Your Enneagram Coach” with her husband Jeff. Her passion comes from helping people better understand their personal stories and how those stories motivate their behavior. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN EPISODE 278: 
What is the enneagram?  
How enneagram can act as your “rumble strip.”
What makes your own enneagram type unique to you and your story. 
How the enneagram can be useful alongside other personality assessments. 
Why it’s less effective to try to assign others a “type.” 
How to think about enneagram, parenting, and your kids. 
LINKS: 
Get your FREE enneagram assessment from Beth at Your Enneagram Coach
Learn more about Beth’s work
Pre-Order Beth’s latest book “Enneagram for Moms” coming out in July 2024! 

Episode 277: Goal setting, life mapping, and why it’s helpful to have a word of the year!
TOPIC: Ever have trouble zeroing in on which goals will help you have the biggest impact? Maybe you’re feeling a bit overwhelmed thinking about so many different competing priorities? It can be challenging to sort through and figure out what’s truly most important. Even though it can seem like the answer to that question is “everything is a priority,” when we focus on “everything,” we often have a much harder time accomplishing anything truly meaningful. 
One of the best ways to navigate this challenge is to get to the heart of what’s truly most valuable and important to you, and what aligns with your core values. 
This week’s episode will help! 
As you and I kick off 2024 together — happy New Year!  I’m sharing my word of the year (an annual practice that I find helpful), as well as a new goal setting strategy called Life Mapping that I’m finding especially beneficial.  If you’ve picked a word to guide you this year, I’d love to hear which one and why! 
What you’ll learn in this episode: 

Why my “leading” word of the year is “lighter,” followed closely by “collaboration” and “connecting.”
Why “Life Mapping” can be a valuable tool for helping you better align your goals with your core values. 
How the life mapping process can be helpful if you are troubled (like I am) by the state of the world and struggling to find ways to have an impact.
What you can expect over the next few weeks from me and She Said/She Said Podcast including a deep dive into the enneagram with enneagram author and coach Beth McCord.
Plus, we’re launching our third annual collaboration series with The Southern C (you’ll find the complete line up from last year’s TSC in the link below!) 

 
LINKS MENTIONED in Episode 277: 
BOOK: “Live your gift” by Dana V. Adams
WORKBOOK: “Live your gift companion guide” by Dana V. Adams
BOOK: “Life Mapping” by Bill Cohen
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 177 “Utilizing the vision board to create your roadmap for the future” 
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 180 “Why picking a word of the year will get you laser focused on goals”
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 179 “Why your most impactful goal may be what you delete or delegate” with Inspiro Tequila founder Mara Smith
She Said/She Said Podcast 245 “How to use behavioral science to make your goals stick” with Behavioral scientist Dr. Katy Milkman
The Southern C x She Said/She Said Podcast Collaboration on Spotify
 

276: How to be more fearless as you set goals for the New Year
Guest: Jean Case, Chair, National Geographic Society and CEO, The Case Foundation and Case Impact Network
Topic: With the New Year almost here, it’s the perfect time to begin thinking about some of those big investments you want to make in yourself in 2024. If fear stands in the way of you aiming for your most audacious goals, this week’s guest gives you great perspective for how to set goals that help you become more fearless, and that will help you build the confidence needed to tackle the challenges you don’t even know are headed your way! 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Jean Case is the CEO of the Case Foundation and Case Impact Network and the Chair of the National Geographic Society. She is a businesswoman, investor, philanthropist and impact investing pioneer who believes in the power of business to do good in the world. Her career in the private sector has spanned two decades including as a senior executive at AOL and before that GE. She cofounded the Case Foundation — along with her husband Steve Case —in 1997. Her book “Be Fearless: 5 principles for a life of breakthroughs and Purpose” is based on her work and research conducted at the Case Foundation as well as drawn from Jean’s own experiences and career. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: 

How Jean, who doesn’t consider herself a natural born risk taker, learned to take risks. 
The 5 key areas for building fearlessness — these criteria were present in practically every major innovation and breakthrough (great criteria for thinking about particularly bold goals in 2024!)
How you can rethink and better utilize your failures
How to stop “overthinking” and most importantly how to prevent overthinking from derailing your biggest goals
Learning to chunk big goals down into bite size pieces
The power of impact investing and how it differs from ESG
How Jean thinks about influence and the role of humility

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As I wrap this year’s content, I’m thinking about how much our time together means to me. I’m also looking forward to bringing you more great conversations and ways to super charge your own influence, as well as more opportunities where we can engage, connect and hopefully collaborate together to bring our big ideas into the world and to have even more impact! 
Until then, I’m taking a couple of weeks off, but will see you right back here in early January 2024! 
If you’ve enjoyed She Said/She Said Podcast this year, I’d love to hear! 
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274. How to leverage your network to create a unique and sparkling product! Une Femme sparkling wine founder Jen Pelka
Guest: Jen Pelka, founder Une Femme
Topic: 
Creating and investing in a network that supports and encourages your grandest dreams is not only an essential element needed to take your business idea to the next level, it’s also the key to helping you recharge yourself both emotionally and creativity. But, there’s also something particularly unique about the bond, the connection, and the  collaboration that happens between women when we gather. 
This is one of the powerful underlying values behind the brand and creation of Une Femme sparkling wine. 
This week’s conversation will give you lots of inspiration as you think about hosting your next gathering of your gal pals, and it will give you lots of inspiration about leveraging that group to help you bring your visions and dreams to life.  
And, don’t miss the Une Femme promo code included below! 
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Jen Pelka is the cofounder and CEO of Une Femme, a company she created to meet a particular market need: sparkling wines for women, made by women winemakers, that gives back to women-centered charities. 
Jen’s journey has taken her from PR founder, to wine bar founder (she founded The Riddler in NYC and San Francisco), to creator of Une Femme. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: 

How Jen’s wine bars provided the perfect testing ground for the product and for her vision. 
Jen’s unique approach to understanding and communicating with investors. 
How loss helped Jen fine tune the way she thinks about communicating the value of the business. 
The “Gather Guide” which Jen created with my wonderfully talented friend Whitney Wright. 
How Jen thinks about influence and why she says influence starts with the investment we make in ourselves. 

 
A HOLIDAY GIFT FROM JEN: 
Jen has generously shared a PROMO CODE so that you can get 20% off of your order of Une Femme. Just include: SHESAIDWINE for 20% off of your order!
Note: I’m particularly fond of Jen’s “Project Gather Box” which includes 3 bottles, the Gather Guide, and the adorable coasters we talk about in the episode! 
LINKS MENTIONED:
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 233 with Dana Cowin
The Policy Circle
 
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Title: 275. Creating festive events that build strong connection
Have you ever struggled to find a group or network that supports your business goals? It can be very tricky, especially if you are looking for a group that also provides encouragement, inspiration, and tactical advice from those who are also working alongside you in the entrepreneurial trenches. 
While podcasts like this one can be a great resource, nothing takes the place of direct personal connection for brainstorming ideas and getting perspective from others. 
This week, as part of our continued holiday series, we’re going beyond the special touches that can make a celebration unique to focus on how to create real connection with guests (and with potential collaborators). And, how one extraordinary party planner created a place where fellow creative entrepreneurs could collaborate, support and inspire each other while also engaging in fun, festive events to showcase each other’s businesses.  
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Lydia Menzies built Lydia Menzies Celebrates and her membership group The Super Club based on concepts that are also essential to creating real influence: connection, collaboration, creativity, kindness, and a sincere interest in helping other entrepreneurs identify their unique gifts and super powers. 
You could easily refer to Lydia as “party planner extraordinaire,” but that label actually misses much of the depth and understanding of how to develop and cultivate talent that Lydia puts into the experiences and parties she creates. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: 

How understanding the influence we have on others can be key to building a truly collaborative culture;  
How to navigate a common intellectual property challenge (especially important for creative entrepreneurs); 
Why aligning your values with potential partners and collaborators is essential for success; 
How helping others to discover their unique talents can help create true and lasting connection;
Why Lydia believes we all benefit and learn more when we collaborate with our competitors. 

LINKS MENTIONED: 
To join the Party Week workshop and get a sneak peek inside Lydia’s Party Prep School:  https://lydiamenzies.com/party-week-christmas-tree-tea/
If you missed Party Week but still want to know more about joining the Party Prep School: https://lydiamenzies.com/supper-club-prep-school/
If you are interested in The Supper Club: https://lydiamenzies.com/supper-club/
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Title: 273. LIVE She Said/She Said Podcast conversation: career pivots, transferable skills, identity, side hustles, and building your brand
Guests: 
Ashley Davis, cofounder Westfront Strategies
Joyce Meyer, EVP, for government relations at the American Council of Life Insurers
Tamara Edwards, event co-host, founder Broad Shoulders & TE&Co. 
Kaitlyn Kline, event MC, director at RubiconMD
 
TOPIC: Ever find that some of the best career advice comes when you gather incredibly smart, thoughtful, accomplished women from your network together and really dig into the topics together? 
That’s what we did a few weeks ago at a LIVE event I co-hosted with my friend and personal branding expert Tamara Edwards. This is the first in what we hope will become a series of conversations. More on that later! But this week, I’m sharing some great audio from that event with you. Here’s why: 

You’ll get several unique takes and perspectives on career pivots. 
The conversation reinforces the power and importance of our networks for gaining perspective and for problem solving. 
This conversation illustrates the incredible power of collaboration, and of the importance of women supporting and encouraging each other. 

 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUESTS: 
Tamara Edwards, my co-host for the event, is a personal branding expert and founder of Broad Shoulders, as well as her company TE&Co. She’s also the creator of an innovative approach to personal branding, which is called Personal Brand in a Box.
Ashley Davis, is a lead principal at West Front Strategies, a multimillion dollar lobbying firm that she co-founded in 2015, after a successful career in government, including helping to create what is now the Office of Homeland Security. Ashley holds an MBA from Georgetown, and she sits on several corporate nonprofit boards, including the Kennedy Center’s National Symphony Orchestra. 
Joyce Meyer is the executive Vice President for government relations at the American Council of Life Insurers. Her work is focused on financial and retirement security for her member companies and the families that they serve. Now, prior to ACLI, Joyce spent almost three decades across government, including as chief of staff to her hometown, Wisconsin Congressman, who also happened to be the US Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan. Joyce holds an MBA also from Georgetown and has been recognized for her strategic leadership as a top lobbyist, and she also serves on several nonprofit boards. 
Kaitlyn Kline is a director at Rubicon md, who served as our mc for the event. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE: 

Four different perspectives on career pivots, especially related to pivoting from government to private sector and/or entrepreneurial ventures. 
How to think about transferrable skills, especially when you are seeking a position in an industry that might be new to you. 
Ways to develop your own brand identity. 
Why it can be difficult to develop and share your own point of view when you go out on your own.

EDITORIAL NOTE: Because of the live nature of the event, the audio quality for this episode is not what you have become accustomed to if you are a regular listener to this podcast. I apologize for that, but ultimately I decided that the content was both important enough and useful enough to share with you. I have also included a very helpful transcript that you can download which can be helpful as you listen along.
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Episode 272:  “Creating jobs and impact through tradition and influence”
Guest: Kate Stewart, founder/CEO, Bauble Stockings
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
As we kick off the holiday season, I’ll be sharing some episodes that not only include great career and business advice, but that emphasize the power of investing in others. If you’ve been following She Said/She Said for a while, you already know how much I love showcasing women entrepreneurs, especially those who have created companies that give back and create economic opportunities for others. 
When we think about influence, we often see it in the way someone builds and runs her business or her office, the way she manages her team, and the way she collaborates and shares with others. Often our success is directly tied to the power of our connections and our investments in others. This week’s guest shares great perspective on this topic. 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Kate Stewart created a business out of a unique family tradition — the “bauble stocking.” Her company, which she named “Bauble Stockings,” partners with a Haitian company to make hand-stitched needlepoint holiday and special celebration stockings. With more than half of Haiti’s population living below the poverty line, the jobs Bauble Stockings creates helps to fuel the local economy, and creates economic opportunity for its stitchers and their families.  
While the social impact part of Kate’s story is inspiring, so is her approach to collaborations, and to the consistent approach she takes to give back in other ways. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 

How and why Kate built Bauble Stockings;
Kate’s approach to giving back;
What Kate learned about entrepreneurship from her Dad;
How Kate approaches collaborations.  

SPECIAL OFFER FOR YOU:
Kate has generously gifted FREE SHIPPING to YOU until November 30, 2023 on orders of Bauble Stockings. Just mention COUPON CODE: LAURA. Don’t delay! These stockings are a lovely and thoughtful gift, and they tend to sell fast!
LINKS MENTIONED:
Bauble Stockings
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 271 with master organizer Carrie Peeples, Neat Smart
 
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Episode 271: Your closet, your pantry and your emotional attachments! Decluttering tips just in time for the holidays!
Guest: Carrie Peeples, master home organizer, founder Neat Smart
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Getting your closet, pantry, business and life organized can help create a greater sense of calm. That’s true at any time, but especially with the holiday quickly approaching. 
You might ask yourself, what does home organizing have to do with influence? 
When we think about influence, one part of building and sustaining influence requires that we make investments in ourselves, in ways that help us create the conditions where we can thrive and succeed — in this case, investing the time to get more organized. 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Carrie Peeples is passionate about helping people make their lives easier by getting their homes organized. After years of advising family and friends, she started Marietta, Georgia-based Neat Smart in 2012, because she saw first-hand how much happier, relaxed, peaceful and in control people were after she helped them create systems to get them organized. But the real key, was making sure that the systems she created for them were easy for THEM to maintain. Carrie shares helpful organizing tips and products on Instagram @NeatSmart . 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: 

How the stories we tell ourselves impact how we think about our stuff.
The role of shame in home organization.
Carrie’s home organizing philosophy. 
A few pre holiday organizing tips to get your holidays kicked off on the best footing — so you can spend more time enjoying yourself and less time looking for missing stuff!
A life-changing spice organization trick! (at least life -changing for me!)
We also hear about Carrie’s big career pivot that led to the creation of Neat Smart.

 
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LINKS MENTIONED: 
Neat Smart Holiday Check List

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Episode 270: Building the luxury fashion brand Frances Valentine while navigating change and loss
GUEST: Elyce Arons, CEO and co-founder Frances Valentine
We’ve been talking a lot about change this season:  How to think about change, how to navigate it, and how best to plan for change that you can’t possibly know is coming. 
This week, we’ll tackle another important dimension related to change — a topic that will especially resonate with entrepreneurs: What if your business partner, who also happens to be your best friend, passes away suddenly?
This week’s guest faced that double loss, but her story illustrates the importance of perspective, and of continuing to build on a dream in ways that honor the memory and shared dream. 
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: Elyce Arons is the CEO and co-founder of luxury fashion and accessory brand Frances Valentine.  Elyce co-founded that company along with her best friend, the late Kate Spade and Kate’s husband, Andy Spade. They created FV after the group had a very successful run in co-creating and ultimately selling the Kate Spade Company to Neiman Marcus back in 2006. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: 
How Elyce, and her best friend and co-founder Kate Spade, envisioned and created the unique Frances Valentine brand. 
How Elyce navigated the very difficult transition of losing Kate.  
How Elyce hit the pause button at the top of her career to spend time investing in her family and other interests (such great perspective for anyone contemplating a career break!)
How Elyce thinks about sustainability, catalogs, retail stores, and lots more! 
 
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269. Title: Designing your work space (and your life) to combat stress
Guest: Dr. Esther Sternberg
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Who doesn’t struggle with stress? While stress is a normal part of our daily existence, the way we design our work spaces can be a big contributor to our stress level, and I’m not just talking about managing the clutter!
When unaddressed, constant stress takes a toll on our overall health, and on our resilience which we need to help us bounce back, especially when our immunity is challenged. Stress also impacts our focus. Lack of focus can prevent us from accomplishing goals, or creating the impact and the influence we hope to have on the world. 
This week’s incredibly accomplished guest gives us some cutting-edge insights that will change the way you think about your workspace — home or office, and how it fits an integrated approach to your health and wellness. 
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: Dr. Esther Sternberg is a pioneer in the field of mind, body, stress, and wellness and how your environment and surroundings impact those aspects of your life. A scholar and professor of medicine, psychology, architecture, landscape architecture and planning at the University of Arizona, has published several popular books including her latest: “Well At Work: Creating Wellbeing In Any Workspace.” 
Starting her career as a rheumatologist, Dr. Sternberg spent 26 years at the National Institutes of Health, before finding her way to the field of integrated medicine. Her work has been transformative in many areas including how the American Institute of Architects considers office design today. You’ll find her full, impressive bio below. 
 
WHAT YOU WILL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE:
 The best ways to destress your work space beyond decluttering. 
What resilience really means in the context of our health and disease prevention. 
Why all sound is not created equal, even when set at the same decibel. 
Why environmental stress — even when experienced early in the day — can still impact your sleep. 
How you can incorporate the seven components of integrated health into your life. 
Cactus or orchid? Which plants provide the greatest de-stressing benefits. 
Why tapping into “meaning” is key to stress management and resilience. 
 
WHAT SPARKS OF INSPIRATION AND INSIGHT DID YOU GET FROM THE CONVERSATION?  Let me know! Use the contact link atSheSaid.SheSaidPodcast.com or message me on social media:  Instagram,Linked In, or Facebook. Or, send me an email: info@shesaid.media . Please be sure to reference Episode 269. 
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LINKS MENTIONED: 
Dr. Ester Sternberg
Dr. Sternberg’s latest book: “Well At Work: Creating Wellbeing In Any Workspace.”

Title: Is your profile photo and visual brand undermining your influence? 
Episode 268
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
How much thought do you give to the visual elements of your personal brand? Is your profile photo — the one you use for social media and specifically Linked In — sending a message that is consistent with the other aspects of your brand? What are potential customers, clients or future employers thinking when they see your profile photo? Does it transmit, “I’m the person for the job”, or “I couldn’t care less about personal brand”?
“Branding,” even when it’s unintentional or haphazard, is an important part of an overall influence strategy. When the message is visual, it can seem subtle, but can communicate an unmistakably powerful message — good, or not good. Failing to pay attention to this element of branding signals missed opportunity, and maybe lack of attention to details that can matter to future opportunities. 
This week, in the latest episode in our mini series focused on ways to make your career more recession proof (or “bulletproof”), I’m talking about the importance of the profile photo and some cost effective ways to create the image that best supports who you are, and positions you for opportunities.   
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
Is the message you are sending through your profile image the one you intend? 
How to find a photographer at a reasonable price. 
Other cost cutting measures to create powerful brand images. 
Tips on creating and using Iphone photo headshots. 
Bargain tips for hair and makeup. 
How one stop shopping for brand images can save you money (by saving you time) in the long run. 
Why you should regularly audit your social media profiles.  
 
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LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE: 
Personal Brand in a Box by Tamara Edwards
Live Event with Tamara Edwards & Laura Cox Kaplan, November 9, 2023
Upwork
Glam Squad
 
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267. How to weave diverse job experience into a compelling professional narrative
GUEST: Jodi Glickman, founder and author “Great on the Job”
Episode 267 BONUS 
As part of our special mini series focused on helping you “bulletproof” your career, I’m sharing a BONUS Episode from our archives this week. This conversation with executive coach and author Jodi Glickman is the perfect build onto last week’s Episode 266, when we talked about the importance of using our skills and experiences to dial into our unique purpose. 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: Have you ever struggled to make your particular skills and experiences fit a neatly packaged job description? Maybe you’ve found a position or a board seat or maybe a client who you think you’d be perfect for, but you’re not sure how to turn your existing skills into a compelling pitch that differentiates you from the competition? 
Learning to take your unique skills and experiences and deploy them to fit opportunities is itself a skill. The key is taking what you can already do and figure out how you can add value whether it fits a stated job description or not. That also means you have to tackle — or at least reframe — any lingering self-doubt about putting yourself forward. 
Doing this well can be an important key for building and sustaining influence because it requires that you understand your value, your story, and how to deploy it in ways that add value. 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:
Jodi Glickman is an executive coach and author whose passion is developing leaders, making her clients look great on the job, and helping people figure out the best ways to position themselves for their next move. Jodi is the CEO and founder of a company called Great on the Job, and she’s the author of a book of the same name. Her clients have included: Linked In, JP Morgan, Abbott, and Harvard Business School. Her TEDx talk: “Why You Should Stop Looking for Work You Love” is a don’t miss! 
KEY TOPICS:
TRANSFERABLE SKILLS: how to think about what you know and what you can do and to deploy those things for opportunities you might not otherwise have considered. 
“G.I.F.T.”: How generosity, initiative, forward momentum, and transparency are Jodi’s keys to making you “Great on The Job” and for making people want to work with you.
RESUME GAPS: If you’ve taken some time off, how you can explain that to a potential future employer and why Jodi says “transparency” is important. 
CONFIDENCE: How to develop some key confidence hacks. 
WHY JODI SAYS YOU SHOULD STOP SEARCHING FOR WORK YOU LOVE
HOW TO DEVELOP YOUR PERFECT PITCH: and remembering to start with the “right now.”
HOW TO DEVELOP YOUR CREDIBILITY WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO PIVOT INTO A NEW CAREER OR OPPORTUNITY.
YOUR FEEDBACK MATTERS! I’d love to know what you thought of the episode. If you loved it, I’d really love a REVIEW! Use the contact link atSheSaid.SheSaidPodcast.com or message me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, Linked In, or Facebook. I’d love to hear from you! And, be sure to pick up a copy of Jodi’s terrific book “Great on the Job.”  
TO LEARN MORE 
About Jodi Glickman 

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Title: Episode 266: Want to bulletproof your career? Start with purpose.
Topic: Ever heard the saying “your best defense is a good offense”? That’s certainly true as it relates to bulletproofing your career.
Episode 266 is the first in our “bulletproof your career” series: a collection of shorter episodes designed to help you navigate and get in front of career change BEFORE it happens! I’ll be sharing these shorter-form, quick coffee break episodes (interspersed with some fantastic guest interviews) over the next few weeks and months, so please be sure to let me know if you find the series and topics helpful.  
This week, I’m sharing a strategy for how you can use your skills and experiences to create a purpose-fueled roadmap —one that will give you the first step to help you answer the question “what should I do next?” And “what am I really meant to do?” 
When we dig into our experiences and the core elements of what makes us who we are, we’re tapping into important elements of our story. Understanding those unique elements of our personal story and what makes us who we are is a key building block for influence.
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
Why it’s helpful to start with “purpose” when trying to answer the question:  “what do I really want to do next in my career and life?”
How to build your experience / skills worksheet. 
What to include on your worksheet.
Don’t forget about your “at a girl file.” and be sure to look back over your calendar, journals, and past evaluations as resources for your list.
Be sure to include volunteer and pro bono work. 
As you capture each item, ask yourself: “How did I feel about this experience?” and “What did I learn?” 
FOR REFERENCE: I’ve modified a version of questions created by workplace expert and author Michelle Gibbings to use as you reflect on your experience/skills list:

What has mattered and matters to me? 
What and who has/have inspired or inspires me? 
When have I been the most motivated?  And why? 
What difference have I made / still want to make through my work?
When have I been most proud of who I am as a person? 

LINKS + RESOURCES MENTIONED:
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 184 “At a girl file”
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 177 on visualization and creating a vision board

 

SHOW NOTES:
Episode 265: What’s the most important thing to understand about change in your life and career?
Topic: There are very few things that are absolutely guaranteed in life — change is one of them!  Despite that guarantee, we are often ill prepared to deal with and utilize change as we navigate it, especially in our careers.
This topic has been a consistent theme since I launched She Said/She Said Podcast. Often, the career pivot stories that have resonated most deeply with you are those where guests  share compelling and thoughtful perspective around how she navigated and thought about change.
This week, I’m sharing a few thoughts on the topic, and how we’ll be diving in even more deeply over the next few months. The goal — to give you more of what you’ve told me you are looking for!  Please be sure to send me your thoughts, especially related to those particular aspects of change you — or those around you — are navigating.
 
OTHER TOPICS COVERED:

* New Show Open!
* COMING SOON — “Bulletproof Your Career” Mini Episodes!
* Recap of our new Season!

 
Links Mentioned:
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 264 with Meghan Jarvis
See Episode 264 Show Notes to pre-order Meghan’s book: End of the Hour
 
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 263 with Manisha Thankor
See Episode Show Notes to Order Manisha’s book: Money Zen
 
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 262 with Shanna Hocking
See Episode Show Notes to Order Shanna’s book: One Bold Move A Day
 
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 261 with Harvard Business School Professor Amy Edmondson
See Episode Show Notes to Order Amy’s book: The Right Kind of Wrong
 
 

Title: Understanding and navigating grief and change in your life & career  
Episode 264
Guest: Meghan Riordan Jarvis, psychotherapist specializing in trauma and grief
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Are we allowed to grieve when a boss leaves? What about when a project ends? Is it wrong to feel grief in a context other than when someone passes? 
We typically think about grief only in the context of death. But many other types of change can trigger symptoms associated with loss. While the loss of someone close to us is uniquely and extraordinarily painful, we can experience similar responses in the context of other changes in life, especially when those changes are significant and dramatic. 
This week’s fabulous guest is helping us better understand the broader dimensions of grief and its less well understood impact on us. When we have a better understanding of the impact, we’re better prepared and can develop strategies that offer a more positive response to an inevitable part of life. 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: Meghan Riordan Jarvis specializes in trauma, grief and loss. After experiencing PTSD following the deaths of both of her parents within two years of each other, Meghan launched a fantastic podcast called “Grief is My Side Hustle,” and began speaking more widely on the topic in order to help companies and individuals address grief in the workplace. 
Meghan is also the author of a soon to be released new book and memoir called “End of the Hour.” The book, published by Zibby Media, is available for pre-order here. 
KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 

How layers of grief can lay dormant and sneak up on us, often when we least expect it. 
Just because you have grief does not mean you are “bad at self care.”
How grief can impact all aspects of our lives and work and can cause a dizzying array of physical symptoms:  brain fog, anger, reduced productivity, strained relationships, and difficulty with decision making, among others. 
What to do when we notice the signs in ourselves and in others.


Some important tools to use to begin to work through grief and trauma 

Please be sure to let me know what you thought of the conversation, or anything else you might like to share. I love hearing from you! You can reach me via the link below:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  or email me and the she said team directly: info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook and Threads. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere!  
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 264: 
Pre-order Meghan’s book “End of the Hour”
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TITLE: “Is never enough thinking keeping you stuck?”
EPISODE: 263
GUEST: Manisha Thakor
TOPIC: Ever find yourself in a job that you once loved but that doesn’t serve you as well anymore? Or maybe, you’d really love to do something else, but the financial incentives of the job you have make it difficult to give it up? Could there be another reason — beyond just the comp — for why you stay put? 
Sometimes the stories we tell ourselves about our career decisions might be masking a deeper story and narrative. As this week’s guest shares, the story that fueled her “never enough” approach to work ultimately put her health at risk, not to mention the relationships she lost along the way. 
Learning to listen for those deeper messages, and to ask ourselves some tough questions is key to maintaining a healthier balance between work and life. It’s also key to achieving something she calls “Money Zen.”
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: A former investment banker, Manisha Thakor is a financial wellness expert and the author of “Money Zen: The Secret to Finding Your ‘Enough’”. 
She wrote the book for anyone who has ever felt that “they can never measure up.” In our conversation, Manisha shares how she overcame this mindset related to work and money. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: 

How childhood experiences (including sometimes even minor ones) may be impacting your mindset related to money and your own definition of what’s “enough.” 
Why “busy badges” might have more to do with avoidance than with “busy.”
How you can create a regular practice for sparking creativity and innovation, and why doing so can help you create additional career prospects and opportunities for yourself. 

 
FEEDBACK: I’d love to hear your thoughts on this episode. Have you ever felt the crush that Manisha describes of not being enough? Has it fueled your work in ways that are less than healthy? I’d love to hear about it. You can message me on Instagram, Linked In, Facebook or Threads. You’ll find me @ laura cox kaplan . 
 
LINKS MENTIONED: 
Manisha’s book: “Money Zen: The Secret to Finding Your Enough”
About Manisha Thakor 
 

TITLE: Why defining “bold” for yourself is key to achieving your goals
Episode 262
GUEST: Shanna Hocking, leadership coach and author “One Bold Move A Day”
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: 
When I hear the word “bold,” I think of major career risks and actions that often represent major pivots, or maybe something far outside the norm. But this week’s guest makes a strong case for the fact that the most valuable thing she’s learned about living “boldly,” is that it’s essential for YOU to define what bold means in your own life versus looking to someone else’s definition. (Note: also a great way to avoid unhelpful comparisons!)
For Shanna, bold is synonymous with forward movement — both grand actions, as well as much less grand ones. The point is forward momentum based on how YOU define it. 
If you are looking for some additional powerful tools to add to your personal toolkit as we jump into the fall and back-to-school/life, this episode offers up some fantastic additions! 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Shanna Hocking is a leadership coach, development expert, and author, whose approach to taking one bold move each day that you define as bold for yourself is also the title of her book “One Bold Move A Day.” 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: 
Why it’s more beneficial to define your own version of “bold.”
How letters to yourself can be useful for goal setting. Shanna shares writing prompts she uses to make her letters most useful for herself and for her clients.  
Why it’s beneficial to create a “User Manual” for yourself, and for your team. (Note: I also think this is a great tip for families!)
How Shanna’s Pivot Story illustrates the power of a consistent purpose even when roles, jobs or careers shift and evolve. 
 
LINKS MENTIONED: 
Shanna’s book “One Bold Move A Day”
About Shanna Hocking
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 260: Feeling the post summer vacation overwhelm? Eight tips to help YOU!
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Title: Failure happens! How can we get more value from our failures and setbacks? 
Episode 261
Guest: Amy Edmondson, PhD, professor of management and leadership at Harvard Business School
 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: 
Rationally, we know that failure is an unavoidable part of life. Often, it’s our failures and setbacks that represent progress points on the pathway to our greatest successes. But it can be difficult to sort through and make sense of the competing emotions we feel as we endure failure and setback. Interestingly, according to this week’s guest, our aversion to failure can actually increase the chances of not only failure, but the type of failure that we don’t learn as much from. 
So what can we do to better understand and to utilize failure more effectively? 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Amy Edmondson is a world-renowned professor of management and leadership at Harvard Business School. Her new book “The Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well” (out on September 5, 2023) charts new ground related to failure and to understanding it in the context of psychological safety. 
Amy has been named by THINKERS 50 as the #1 management thinker in the world, and her TedTalk “How to turn a group of strangers into a team” has been viewed more than 3 million times. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: 
How understanding different types of failures is key to innovation and to creating an environment where we can more fully thrive. 
The role psychological safety plays in creating the conditions for the “right kind of failure.”
The best way to deal with fear that tends to accompany failure for most of us. 
How our failures can be differentiators. 
How to think about failure in the context of parenting and the importance of creating psychological safety for failure at home. 
The best ways to make the most of your failures. 
The role of shame. 
Amy’s pivot story and her advice for knowing when to persist and when to pivot. 
 
LINKS MENTIONED: 
Amy Edmondson, Phd
Amy’s book: “The Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well” (pre-order before September 5, 2023)
 
FEEDBACK: I hope you found this episode a good investment of your time, and I would love to hear your thoughts and feedback. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, Facebook or Threads. Or, use the contact link below or on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you’d like to support She Said/She Said Podcast and this content, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to She Said/She Said Podcast.

SHOW NOTES Episode 260
Title: Eight tips to help YOU tackle post vacation overwhelm
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: 
Is there anything better than getting away? Unplugging is key for recharging your body, mind and spirit, and often for giving us more space to reconnect with those we love. It can also do wonders to boost our creativity and make us more innovative and better problem solvers. 
But….how about coming back from a vacation? How about the piles of laundry, the beach sand covering every surface as you unload your bags, the piles of mail and bills, and what about back-to-school to dos? It can all feel incredibly overwhelming, and that lovely recharge can immediately feel like a very distant memory within hours of returning home. 
This week, as I return home from my own summer recharge, I wanted to share eight of my favorite tips that help me manage overwhelm, and some of the mixed emotion that come after a break as I ease back into my regular schedule. 
I’m sure you have tips to add to my list, so please pass those along as well. 
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
I’m solo this week as we launch our new season!
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: 

The importance of self-awareness
Why corralling, grouping, and decluttering helps you create more brains space 
The importance of having a system — even a simple one — for prioritizing
Remembering to reflect on or capture those sparks of inspiration (even ones that are not fully formed ideas) 
* Some of the science that supports why these tips work
and a preview of some of our new episodes this season!

LINKS & OTHER RESOURCES MENTIONED: 
Upcoming conversation with Harvard Business School Professor Amy Edmondson
Pre-order Amy’s new book: “The Right Kind of Wrong”
 
Upcoming conversation with Manisha Thakor 
Order Manisha’s book: MoneyZen
 
Upcoming conversation with executive coach Shanna Hocking
Order Shanna’s book: One Bold Move
 
Other productivity / time management resources: 
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 252 & 253 featuring time management and productivity expert Laura Vanderkam
 
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 176 with Lisa Woodruff 
 
FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile and I would love to hear your thoughts. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, Facebook or Threads. Or, use the contact link below or on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to She Said/She Said Podcast.
 

Title: How to navigate a major career or life disruption
ENCORE Episode 259
Guest: Executive Coach and author Maggie Craddock
 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: 
Have you ever had your career or life dramatically upended? As you think back on the experience, you likely can recall the feelings of fear, uncertainty, and lost control, and how disorienting, unsettling, and incredibly stressful, all of that can be. 
All of those things can leave us struggling to find our footing, and most importantly, our way forward. 
I’ve pulled this conversation from our archives because it’s packed with great perspective to help you navigate those major disruptions. It will also give you great tools needed to turn those disruptive experiences into influence-building capital. 
If there’s one thing that defined the past several years, disruption in our lives has been a theme…. And learning to navigate those disruptiions has become the name of the game and the essential ingredient for personal and professional growth and survival. That’s largely been true no matter what you job or vocation may be or have been. 
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Maggie Craddock is an executive coach and the author of Lifeboat: Navigating Unexpected Career Change and Disruption. 
Maggie has worked with clients at all professional levels — from those just entering the workforce, to midlife pivoters, all the way up to Fortune 500 CEOs. She’s been featured on top business news shows as well as in leading publications including the wall street journaL and the Harvard Business Review. 
Despite Maggie’s two plus decades of experience as an exec coach, that’s not where her career started as she explains in our conversation. 
Much of her work today focuses on understanding behaviors and behavioral dynamics in the workplace, and her most recent book focuses on navigating career change and disruption and drawing parallels between leadership mistakes made on the Titanic, as well as Lifeboat #6. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: 

The value an executive coach can provide when you are struggling or stuck. 
Why emotional agility under pressure is so important and how you can learn to develop it. 
How our personal narratives can impact how we respond to circumstances and stress.
Where to start when your career or life dramatically shifts and you need to put it all back together.  
The parallels Maggie draws between leadership failures on the Titanic, and everyday leadership challenges combine for powerful perspective that has withstood the test of time. 

 
LINKS MENTIONED: 
Lifeboat: Navigating Unexpected Career Change and Disruption
About Maggie Craddock 
 
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Title: How to use your pocketbook to create more influence! Encore Episode
Episode 258
Guest: Carrie Colbert, founder Curate Capital
 
This week’s topic:  Every decision we make and action we take gives us an opportunity to build or leverage our influence. That’s true in how we engage with others, but it’s also true related to things like where we spend and invest our money. As women, we often have more buying power and potential for impact through our pocketbook than we may realize. 
It’s one of the reasons why I find such value in showcasing female entrepreneurs and business owners, and why I like to give them some additional exposure on this platform. 
This week’s ENCORE guest is no exception! 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:  Carrie Colbert is the founder of Houston, Texas-based Curate Capital, a venture capital fund that Carrie created to invest in women owned companies and help them accelerate their growth. 
Carrie joined me earlier this year as part of our collaboration series with The Southern Coterie network. Even if entrepreneurship isn’t your thing, I promise there is much to learn from these incredible women that you can apply to your own career and life pivots. 
As summer starts to wind down and I share a few overlooked and particularly compelling take aways from past guests, I hope you are enjoying this little trip down memory lane and finding some great material to inspire you as we head into Fall. 
 
What you’ll learn from this episode: 
 
How Carrie traded in the world of oil and gas investment for an Instagram influencer side hustle and then parlayed those things into building her firm, Curate Capital. 
 
How to figure out “what’s next?” 
 
A few things you should know before you invest, and what it means to be “an accredited investor.” 
 
How to craft a great pitch that gets Carrie’s attention. 
 
LINKS MENTIONED: 
Curate Capital 
The Southern Coterie
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 257 with Lele Sadoughi 
 
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Title: Two expert tips for building your strongest personal and professional brand 
Encore Episode 257
Guest: Lele Sadoughi
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
One of the secrets of building a strong brand either for your company or for yourself means tapping into the power of your unique story and those elements that make you and your business special. This can be a challenging exercise, but when you’re clear on your core values and you’re aligning them with the things that you love and that you’re passionate about and you’re using them to help you create a product or a service that can then contribute to someone else, it can make all the difference. It can also help you differentiate yourself and your product in a powerful way! 
Tapping into what makes us unique and living in that uniqueness is also key to building influence. In this week’s conversation, I’m talking to the queen of the bejeweled headband — an embellishment artist who has taken “dopamine dressing,” but more specifically “dopamine accessorizing” to a new and colorful and sparkly level.
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Lisa — also known as “Lele” — Sadoughi is the founder and creative genius behind her bejeweled namesake brand Lele Sadoughi. 
My conversation with Lele is part of our collaboration series with The Southern C. As part of this series, you have been hearing from incredible entrepreneurs and founders who are part of The Southern C network and who are sharing their expertise to help others. Whether you are already in the throes of running your business or just launching one or maybe just thinking about what might be next, I think you’ll find great value in all of these conversations. 
Lele Sadoughi started her celebrated, colorful jewelry and accessory brand after working with an impressive roster of well-known brands — Rebecca Taylor, Ippolita, and Tory Burch.  She also launched the first ever J.Crew costume jewelry collection before deciding to launch her own brand in 2012. 
What started with jewelry and accessories — most notably the bejeweled headband– has now expanded to include a range of other accessories including wallpapers. Each has a fun, colorful aesthetic that is very uniquely Lele Sadoughi. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
How to lean into your passion to create a business and a unique brand. 
How to manage your creative energy.
Where Lele Sadoughi finds inspiration for her bejeweled accessories. 
The power of collaboration and knowing how to pick the right partners.
Knowing when to pivot or expand, and why Lele advises brands to grow at their own pace. 
 
LELE’S TOP ADVICE:
“Realize that you don’t know how to do everything. Surround yourself with good, smart, trustworthy people who can make you a success and don’t try to do all the things that you don’t know how to do.”
 
I’d love to hear which topics and advice resonated most with you. Please share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In,  Facebook, and Threads!
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LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE: 
Lele Sadoughi
The Southern Coterie
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SHOW NOTES EPISODE 256
Title: Tips to help Barbie (and YOU) navigate self-doubt and imposter syndrome! 
EPISODE 256
 
TOPIC: Ever find yourself questioning your value especially on the heels of a big setback or life change? 
Watching Barbie’s existential crisis in the new Barbie movie last week, I was reminded of a few key tips that can help. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
The biological reasons why we may experience “imposter syndrome.”
How the cumulative impact of  various life changes (including physical ones) can undermine our confidence and create more self-doubt. 
Five tools to help you navigate imposter syndrome and self-doubt. 
 
Have other tips and tools for navigating through self-doubt and imposter syndrome? Send them my way! 
 
FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile and I would love to hear your thoughts. Message me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook. Or, use the contact link below or on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to she said/she said podcast.

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Title: How understanding influence and the power of story can help you navigate career pivots 
BONUS Episode 255
SPECIAL GUEST HOST: This week’s guest host is Communications coach Dr. Laura Camacho, host of the “Speak Up With Laura” podcast. Laura turns the mic on me for a special podcast exchange conversation 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Have you ever struggled to navigate a big career pivot? It might even be something that you are working through right now? 
If so, you won’t want to miss this week’s BONUS episode! 
We’re doing something different this week because I’m turning the mic around and Dr. Laura Camacho is interviewing me for her podcast Speak Up with Laura. We actually recorded this conversation earlier this year, and Laura has graciously shared the audio with me so that I can share the conversation here with you. You’ll also want to check out my ENCORE conversation with Laura which is Episode 254. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: 
Understanding influence and the ways to build it can help you navigate pivots, including and especially the scary parts. 
Laura and I both share advice for how to brag most effectively.  
Why sharing your setbacks (or failures) and what you learned from them can be a differentiating asset and particularly compelling aspect of your story.
The key elements in my influence framework. 
How you can position yourself for board service. 
How to create allies, build your network, and turn an interaction into a longer term relationship with a potential mentor.  
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST HOST: 
Dr. Laura Camacho is a communications coach, the author of “The Practical Guide to Effective Communications,” and the host of “Speak Up with Laura” podcast. One of Laura’s particular specialties is helping those who might identify as introverts to more effectively communicate their contribution, and the value of their work. 
Please be sure to share your feedback on which topics resonate most with you. I’d love to hear. shesaidshesaidpodcast.com 
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, Facebook and  now Threads!  
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere! 
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 255: 
Speak Up With Laura Camacho Podcast
She Said/She Said Podcast episode 254 with Dr. Laura Camacho
“The Practical Guide to Effective Communications” by Dr. Laura Camacho
The Southern Coterie
The Lydia Menzies Supper Club
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Title: How to communicate your value at work. 
ENCORE Episode 254
Guest: Dr. Laura Camacho, communications coach, author, and host of “Speak Up with Laura” podcast
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:  Tell me if this sounds anything like you: You put your head down and work, work, work. But, all that work, work, work hasn’t necessarily led to big promotions for you. What gives? Or maybe you were laid off, and your boss explained that it was because the company wasn’t clear what you actually do all day and how you add value. 
These challenges may boil down to how effectively you are communicating not just the work itself, but the value you are providing, and how you are able to think about and communicate your value not only to the team, but more broadly. 
If you are a regular listener to She Said/She Said Podcast, you know that a particularly important dimension needed to build and sustain influence is story. The power of story applies in how we think about our value and how we communicate it, and how it helps us create more visibility for the value we are already providing. 
Today’s encore conversation dives into this topic and gives you lots to think about and some great tools for communicating your value so that you can build more visibility, and ultimately more influence!  
EDITORIAL NOTE: Episode 254 is an encore episode and part of a podcast exchange with fellow podcast host Dr. Laura Camacho. Next week, I’ll be sharing the conversation Laura and I had on her podcast where we talk more about influence and the influence framework I’ve developed and how it can help you navigate and better utilize whatever life throws your way! 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: Dr. Laura Camacho is a communications coach, the author of “The Practical Guide to Effective Communications,” and the host of “Speak Up with Laura” podcast. One of Laura’s particular specialties is helping those who might identify as introverts to more effectively communicate their contribution, and the value of their work. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
The link between effective communications and influence.
How to increase your visibility at work and why it matters.
The impact of using the right (or wrong) language, and how to avoid “Self-sabotaging language”. 
Introverts and extroverts and how each processes information differently.
Why the advice to “just speak up more” isn’t particularly good advice for building credibility and influence. 
Beware “overthinking” when someone asks for your view.
The role of emotion and how to create intention around it. 
 
Be sure to share your feedback on which topics from this conversation resonate most with you. I’d love to hear! You can follow me and share your thoughts on Instagram,Linked In, Facebook and now Threads!  Or, use the contact link below. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere! 
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 228: 
Speak Up With Laura Camacho Podcast
“The Practical Guide to Effective Communications” by Dr. Laura Camacho
The Southern Coterie
The Lydia Menzies Supper Club
“Quiet” by Susan Cain
Mindset by Dr. Carol Dweck
 

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Title: How to create more meaning, more time, and more tranquility in your life (Part 2)
ENCORE Episode 253
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Ever feel like your to-do list is running your life? Maybe you’re frustrated that you don’t have time for the types of experiences that make life more meaningful? Maybe you feel like your time is literally flying, but you don’t feel like you have much to show for it?
These feelings are familiar to most of us, and they are often accompanied by an overall feeling of being overwhelmed. In this state, it’s very difficult to take a step back and experience joy or to work to invest in those experiences that help us build and sustain influence in our lives and careers. 
Chaos — and the overwhelm it leads to — can hijack our precious mental energy diverting it away from those projects and people who are most important to us. It’s calmness that enables us to be more present, while still getting all the things done that have to happen in a given day or week. It also happens to be an essential building block for building and sustaining influence! 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:  Laura Vanderkam is a time management and productivity expert, and the author of “Tranquility by Tuesday,” her latest book among an impressive library of some nine books on time management and productivity. Her work has appeared in: The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Fortune and Fast Company, and she is a repeat guest on She Said/She Said Podcast (Episode 93)having joined me back in 2020 to talk about WFH strategies with kids during the pandemic. Laura also hosts two podcasts: Before Breakfast, and co-hosts The Best of Both Worlds with Sarah Hart-Unger. 
NOTE: This ENCORE conversation with Laura Vanderkam is split into two episodes — Episode 252 Part 1, and Episode 253 Part 2.    
KEY TOPICS PART 2 EPISODE 253: 

MINDSET: How your mindset impacts how you view time.
BATCHING: Why and how to “batch” smaller tasks.
FALSE NARRATIVES: How to tackle your own false narratives about time and “busyness.”
MAKING SPACE V. WASTING TIME: The real difference between wasted time v. making time and space to think. 
TAKING ON “THE 2 MINUTE RULE: Why “the two minute rule” might not be the time saver you think it is. 
WFH: The WFH productivity/distraction balance. 
BACKUP PLANS: How to create effective backup plans, and how they can contribute to “career resilience”. 

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ADDITIONAL LINKS
About Laura Vanderkam
Purchase “Tranquility by Tuesday” 
Download Laura Vanderkam’s FREE Time Makeover Guide
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 204  Lisa Woodruff, Organize 360 on “batching tasks” and The Sunday Basket 

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Title: “How to create more meaning, more time, and more tranquility in your life”
ENCORE Episode 252 Part 1 of 2
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Ever feel like your to-do list is running your life? Maybe you’re frustrated that you don’t have time for the types of experiences that make life more meaningful? Maybe you feel like your time is literally flying, but you don’t feel like you have much to show for it?
These feelings are familiar to most of us, and they are often accompanied by an overall feeling of being overwhelmed. In this state, it’s very difficult to take a step back and experience joy or to work to invest in those experiences that help us build and sustain influence in our lives and careers. 
This week’s guest will help you redesign your life to not only get more done, but to help you calm the chaos. 
Chaos — and the overwhelm it leads to — can hijack our precious mental energy diverting it away from those projects and people who are most important to us. It’s calmness that enables us to be more present, while still getting all the things done that have to happen in a given day or week. It also happens to be an essential building block for building and sustaining influence! 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:  Laura Vanderkam is a time management and productivity expert, and the author of “Tranquility by Tuesday,” her latest book among an impressive library of some nine books on time management and productivity. Her work has appeared in: The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Fortune and Fast Company, and she is a repeat guest on She Said/She Said Podcast (Episode 93)having joined me back in 2020 to talk about WFH strategies with kids during the pandemic. Laura also hosts two podcasts: Before Breakfast, and co-hosts The Best of Both Worlds with Sarah Hart-Unger. 
NOTE: This ENCORE conversation with Laura Vanderkam is split into two episodes — Episode 252 Part 1, and Episode 253 Part 2, which gives you the option to listen to the entire conversation (both episodes back-to-back) which runs about an hour, or you can listen in the two separate 30-35 minute episodes. Your choice, but I do recommend listening to the episodes in order 252 followed by 253.    
KEY TOPICS PART 1 – EPISODE 252:

TIME AWARENESS: Why time awareness and understanding more precisely how we spend our time can inform a more honest self narrative or story about our time and how busy we actually are v. how busy we think we are.
INCREASE YOUR HAPPINESS? Why time awareness might make you feel better and even happier.  
SHOULD YOU PLAN YOUR WEEK ON SUNDAY? Why you might want to rethink the conventional wisdom of planning for the week ahead on Sunday.  
LAURA’S 3-CATEGORY LIST: The benefits of a 3-category list for the upcoming week.
HOW SHOULD I SPEND MY SUNDAY? Why spending Sunday more focused on fun than on the week ahead might be more valuable. 
LAURA’S TIP “ONE BIG ADVENTURE” AND “ONE SMALL ADVENTURE”: The power of making space for “one big adventure” and “one little adventure” and how that can make your time more memorable.

Don’t miss PART 2 of this conversation in Encore Episode 253!
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TITLE: How to write a book that helps you build your influence 
EPISODE: 251 ENCORE
 
TOPIC: 
Have you ever considered writing a book to showcase your expertise, build your brand, and help others benefit from what you know how to do? Or maybe, you’ve seen colleagues and friends have success with such efforts and you think, “maybe I should do that too.” 
A book can be a great tool for building your brand and your thought leadership — both are essential elements for differentiating yourself and for boosting your influence. This week’s encore episode will give you great perspective on this topic! 

THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Robin Colucci is a journalist turned freelance writer and author turned book coach and entrepreneur. Her speciality is helping experts — like you — write books that showcase their expertise and build their influence. 
 
Robin and I recorded this conversation back in 2020, and I found her advice incredibly helpful personally. I’ll be referring back to it this summer as I take some time off to think about additional content in the Fall. 

WHAT YOU WILL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE: 
Why Robin recommends a personality assessment for would-be authors. 
 
How to land your book concept. 
 
How your “why” is actually different from your book “concept.” 
 
Why “lack of time” is one of the biggest lies we tell ourselves. 
 
How to deal with imposter syndrome as a new author. 
 
You can learn more about Robinhere, and grab a copy of her book: “How to write a book that sells you.”
 
Are you thinking a book might be a great way to build your influence? Let me know. I’d love to hear about it. And, if you are listening to the episode on your phone, please take a screenshot and share on your Instagram stories with a tag to @LauraCoxKaplan . 
 

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TITLE: How to level-set priorities in your life and career!
EPISODE 250
GUEST: FRAN HAUSER 
TOPIC: Ever have trouble carving out time to strategize about your life, career, or a pivot you’re contemplating? Or maybe, once you do carve out the time, you aren’t sure how to structure that time so that you get the biggest return on your investment? What questions should you ask yourself? How much time should you spend? How often should you do this? If any of these questions resonate, this conversation is for YOU! 
Building in time for reflection and making it a regular habit or practice, is key to not only managing yourself, but to making sure that the areas where you are spending your time is helping you move closer to the goals and priorities that are most important to you.
We don’t always think about reflection and time management as elements needed to build influence, and yet, without those practices in place, it’s really difficult to navigate all those competing demands on your time so that you can truly prioritize what’s most important while also helping you build and sustain influence in the process. 
This week’s episode 250 is an encore episode and part of a two-part conversation with startup investor, adviser, best-selling author (and renowned nice girl) Fran Hauser. In part one of this conversation we get into more of Fran’s story. You’ll find that episode here: she said/she said podcast Episode 197. 
TODAY’S GUEST:   Fran Hauser is a startup investor and adviser who is focused on leveling the playing field for women by sharing what she’s learned in her career as a long-time media executive. She’s the author of “The Myth of the Nice Girl: Achieving a Career You Love Without Becoming a Person You Hate,” and “Embrace the Work, Love Your Career,” a workbook for women seeking more joy and fulfillment in their career. 
Fran started her career at PwC, moved into finance at Coca Cola, then to Movie Phone, onto AOL/Time Warner, and then into a series of high profile media positions at People, InStyle, Entertainment Weekly. At the peak of her corporate media career, she opted to strike out on her own to coach, mentor and invest in countless female founded companies. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 

Why focusing on four key areas can have an outsized impact on your career journey.
Fran’s perspective on setting boundaries, while still adhering to her core value: always be nice. 
How and why mindfulness and reflection make a difference in your career journey. 
How an executive coach can help you.
How to stop saying “yes” when you really need to say “no”.  
Fran’s advice for developing a pitch that differentiates your brand or your business 

LINKS MENTIONED: 
“Myth of the Nice Girl: Achieving a Career You Love Without Becoming a Person You Hate”
“Embrace the Work, Love Your Career”
she said/she said podcast Episode 197: Part one with Fran Hauser
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Title: What to pack in your tote bag to boost your career and your creativity this summer
Episode 249
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
As we head into Summer, it’s the perfect time to recharge. And, it can also be a great time to supercharge your career. When we make time and space to think and reflect, it can help us create new possibilities for ourselves. That investment is key to helping us not only build more influence in our lives and careers, but perhaps even more importantly to sustain it.  
This week, as I head into my own summer recharge, I’m sharing a specific challenge you might want to tackle during your recharge or time away (which I hope you are getting!). I’m also sharing a few book recommendations that I’ve packed in my “beach bag” to boost my creativity, innovation and problem solving skills. 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: I’m solo, but coming to you armed with a “beach tote” full of great recommendations to supercharge your career, or help you navigate a potential pivot!
WHAT YOU’LL GET FROM THIS EPISODE:
How a summer recharge is the perfect time to create or refresh your “skills checklist” or “skills inventory”.  If you missed She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 247, when I talked about the skills checklist as a tool to manage difficult feedback, be sure to check that out too!
Why focusing on creativity matters, and how it can help you navigate a career or life transition.
Five great audiobooks packed in my beach bag (actually downloaded from the Audible App on my phone) for boosting your creativity and problem solving skills: 

The Creative Act: a way of being by Rick Rubin
Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert
The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron
The Power of Creativity by Brian Collins
The Creative Habit by Twyla Tharp

“Embrace The Work, Love Your Career: a guided workbook for realizing your career goals with clarity, intention, and confidence.” by Fran Hauser. This workbook is a great resource to supplement the work you do on your skills checklist. Plus, Fran joined me here in She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 197 and 198. If you missed those episodes, be sure to check them out! 
An update on She Said/She Said Podcast — and a great, big thank you to YOU! 
 
Friend, I’d love to hear how you are spending your summer. Any recharge plans? What specific challenges are you tackling while you have more time to think? And, how about your favorite books and what you have packed in your beach tote — I’d love to hear! Share your thoughts with me on social media. You’ll find me here:  Instagram,Linked In, andFacebook. Or, you can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 249:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  Or, email me and the She Said Team directly: @ info@shesaid.media
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Title: How to navigate career quicksand and get promoted
Episode 248
Guest: Reagan Cannon, executive coach/author/speaker
TOPIC: 
Ever feel like you are sinking deeper and deeper into career quicksand? You’re doing everything you know how to do, but it’s not working and in the process you feel like you are moving backwards all the while growing more and more frustrated. 
It’s a terrible feeling, and it can do a number on your confidence and on the way you show up both for yourself and for others. And, guess what? It can also impact your ability to build and to lead with influence. In this week’s episode, you’ll get some great perspective and specific tools to help you pull yourself out of the muck!
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Executive coach, author, speaker and reformed corporate executive Reagan Cannon helps me navigate this topic. Reagan shares incredible perspective, and some tips for how to recognize and address behaviors and mindsets that might be contributing to the problem. 
Reagan spent more than two decades in executive level jobs at both AT&T and Amazon. When she pivoted into leading global leadership and executive training and development, something clicked, putting Reagan on a path to building the executive coaching practice she leads today. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE: 
A few specific things you’ll learn in this episode: 

What is career quicksand?
What are some of the most overlooked reasons why we may find ourselves in career quicksand?
Why rethinking the way we show up in our relationships can make a big difference in our careers and in building our influence. 
How learning to offer a point of view is essential. 
The importance of understanding the power of “identity” as you shift careers. 
What it means to “take the mess out of the message.”
How to manage the “competence complex” and learn to build more opportunities for collaboration. 

Reagan also shares what she learned through the independent research she conducted on the cure for career quicksand.
 
I’d love to hear your thoughts about this episode or anything else that’s on your mind.  You can message me on social media: Instagram,Linked In, andFacebook. Or, email me and the she said/she said podcast team directly:  info@shesaid.media . 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere!  
 
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Until next week, you take care and I’ll talk to you soon. 
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LINKS REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE: 
About Reagan Cannon
Reagan’s TEDx Talk
“Your Brain At Work” by David Rock 

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Title: How can you get more value from a break from work? Or a sabbatical? 
Episode 247
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Have you ever found yourself less recharged and renewed after a planned break than you had hoped? Or, maybe you take an actual sabbatical only to find that you aren’t feeling more rejuvenated and inspired at the end of it, and haven’t accomplished what you had hoped? 
Taking a break can allow us to reflect on our progress, challenges, and goals. It’s an important investment we can make in ourselves. It is also an important dimension needed to build and sustain influence. In order to get the most value from breaks there are a few specific things we can do to maximize that investment.  
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: I’m solo this week! As we jump into summer, I wanted to share a few pieces of my best advice for how to get even more value from a work break or sabbatical. These are some of my tested (and retested) strategies, as well as some great crowdsourced advice from a few previous pod guests. Please share any additional tips you have that I can put to use and share with others! 
 
KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
Here are some of the best ways to get the most value from your work break, recharge or sabbatical: 

Be intentional and create a plan.
A “recharge” is not the same thing as a family vacation or trip, but there are a few ways you can also maximize your recharge during family trips.
Set some boundaries (this is by far the most difficult).
Guilt and self doubt might join you on your break. 
Ease into and back out of a recharge or break.
Build in some additional time for reflection and make sure to capture those “lightening bolt ideas”.
Life happens even with the best of plans! Don’t be too hard on yourself if you don’t accomplish all that you set out to do. 

I’d love to hear any tips you have for maximizing and getting the most value from a recharge.  You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 247:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  or email me and the she said team directly: @ info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
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Title: What’s the best advice you ever received? 
Episode 246
Guest: solo
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: Ever think back to the advice you got when you graduated? What are some of those nuggets of wisdom that have withstood the test of time for you? And what made some advice stand out?
This week, I found myself focused on two key areas. Both are key to building and sustaining influence in our lives, and it’s advice I keep coming back to again and again. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
Why so much of influence sage Dale Carnegie’s advice has withstood the test of time. 
The most important things to remember when you let yourself and others down. 
Why connection and network matter so much, especially when you hit a rough patch. 
How we can use our mishaps to learn and to positively influence those around us. 
If you are graduating or launching a graduate into the world, congratulations! 
What’s the best advice you’ve ever received that you continue to refer back to over and over again? I’d love to hear. Message me on Instagram @LauraCoxKaplan or send me a message via the contact link. Reviews are always welcome as well! If you’re enjoying the show, please give us 5 stars and share your feedback for other topics you’d like to hear about! 

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Title: How to use behavioral science to break bad habits and make your goals stick
Encore Episode 245
GUEST: Dr. Katy Milkman, award-winning Wharton professor and author “How to Change”
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: Ever find that the goals you set for yourself back in January have become a distant memory? 
Turns out, there are some significant scientific reasons why goals we set and habits we are attempting to break can be undermined by the way we attempt to tackle them. 
Learning the best ways to create positive change for ourselves and to create better habits is an important investment in ourselves, and can be important for building influence in your life and career. 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:
In this week’s ENCORE Episode, I’m joined by Dr. Katherine “Katy” Milkman, an award-winning professor of behavioral science at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, and the co-director (along with Professor Angela Duckworth (author of “Grit”) of the Behavior Change for Good Initiative, a research center with the mission of advancing the science of lasting behavior change whose work is being chronicled by Freakonomics Radio. 
Katy is an expert on how to spur positive and lasting change, and she’s the author of the bestselling book:How to Change: The Science of Getting From Where You are to Where You Want to Be.” She hosts the popular Charles Schwab behavioral economics podcastChoiceology, and is the former president of the international Society for Judgment and Decision Making.  
Over the course of her career, Katy has worked with or advised dozens of organizations on how to spur positive change.  
KEY TOPICS:
THE SCIENCE BEHIND WHY WE HAVE TROUBLE BREAKING BAD HABITS AND ACHIEVING OUR GOALS: Unlike many self-help authors, Katy’s approach is based in behavioral science 
THE ROLE OF MINDSET: why the way you think about and approach goals can make a tremendous difference in their outcome.  
THE ROLE OF CONFIDENCE & SELF-DOUBT: A lack of self-efficacy can prevent us from setting goals in the first place. When we don’t “believe” we have the capacity to change it makes taking that first step incredibly difficult. 
WHY YEAR END “RESETS” ARE NOT FOR EVERYONE!  
WHY “Temptation Bundling” is KATY’S FAVORITE GOAL SETTING HACK
HOW TO COMBAT THE “WHAT THE HELL EFFECT” that often occurs when you’ve already slipped
 Why THE COMPANY YOU KEEP matters: Your mother was right! Katy says don’t underestimate the impact the people around us have on our goals and habits.  
KATY’S ADVISORS: originally called “The NO Club,” is a great example of the power of connection and of creating a network that supports particular goals and objectives. 
Understanding human nature and using natural tendencies to not only better manage ourselves, but also to understand others is an important key to INFLUENCE. 
Let me know what you thought of the episode! You can reach me on Instagram @LauraCoxKaplan or via the website. I’d love to hear from you! And, if you’d like to share your thoughts to help others find us, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes.  
ABOUT DR. KATY MILKMAN 
“How to Change: the science behind getting where you are to where you want to be”

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Title: Ever Have Trouble Hearing Constructive Or Negative Feedback? A Skills Checklist Can Help!
Episode 244
Guest: I’m solo for this week’s quick tip episode!
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Ever find receiving constructive or negative feedback really difficult? Intellectually, you already know how valuable feedback — especially constructive feedback — can be for improving your performance, but that doesn’t mean that it’s always easy to navigate the emotion around receiving it. 
In this week’s QUICK TIP / CAREER TOOL KIT Episode, I’m sharing one of my favorite tools that works for navigating challenging feedback. This tip has the added benefit of providing a confidence boost as well! 
Finding tools that help us navigate the tricky areas of life and career is an important investment we can make in ourselves, and it can be an important key toward building our personal influence. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
What a skills checklist is and how to create one for yourself. 
Four steps to make the skills checklist work for you: 

Brainstorm
Categorize
Prioritize
Update

 
How the skills checklist can help you navigate constructive feedback.  
 
Do you keep a running skills checklist or inventory for yourself? If so, let me know any additional tips you have for making the process work well for you. I’d love to hear! You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 244:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  or email me and the she said team directly: @ info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook.  
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere!  
 
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Until next week, you take care and I’ll talk to you soon. 
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Title: “How to untangle your identity from your organization, and tell your best story”
Episode 243
Guest: Laura Fravel, executive communication coach
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Have you ever found yourself so tangled up in your organization’s identity and brand that you aren’t sure where you begin and end? 
This can be particularly problematic when you decide it’s time to leave the organization, or if you decide to pivot into something entirely different. 
Crafting a personal brand and narrative that best reflects your value and experience can be tricky, but is essential to building your most influential brand. 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST 
Executive communication coach and expert storyteller Laura Fravel helps me break this down. Laura has crisscrossed the globe telling stories for a wide range of organizations and executives including Netflix, Amazon, and the New York Times, among many others. She spent 20 years in television and documentary film production before pivoting into directly advising individuals in their storytelling and brand journeys. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
How to unwind your identity from your organization’s.  
Why everyone loving your work might be a sign you’re not differentiating yourself enough. 
How you can balance authenticity and vulnerability to create the most impact when sharing your story. 
How to identify and deal with aspects of perfection. 
How to avoid a common trap when crafting your most compelling story. 
 
I’m excited to hear your feedback on this episode, so please be sure to let me know which topics most resonated with you. You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 243:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com or email me and the she said team directly: @ info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere!  
 
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Title: “How to shift your mindset, boost your mood, and build your influence”
Episode 242
Guest: Meaghan B Murphy, editor-in-chief, Woman’s Day Magazine 
Have you ever heard the advice to dress for the job you want versus the job you already have? Or maybe, a slightly different take on that concept: dress for the mood you want versus the one you might currently be in? 
Engaging in micro strategies that become habits — like wearing clothing you feel good in or surrounding yourself with color that appeals to you — is scientifically shown to have mood boosting power for many people. The same can be said of other micro habits that when practiced consistently can help us shift the way we react to setbacks. 
Mindset is also a key building block for influence, which is why I’m excited to share this ENCORE BONUS Episode with you this week. 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Meaghan B Murphy is the Editor-in-Chief of Woman’s Day Magazine, which reaches some 18 million readers each month. She is also the author of “Your Fully Charged Life: A Radically simple approach to having endless energy and filling every day with yay.” 
Meaghan and I recorded this conversation back in 2021, but it’s one of my favorites for illustrating the impact of positive microhabits on mindset and ultimately influence. 
Meaghan’s journey to becoming the positive, “lightning bolt” we see today was not without hardship, nor was it where her family necessarily thought she would end up. She shares why, and how she began to shift her habits and ultimately her thinking to create a much more joyful and happier existence. Ultimately those practices inspired Meaghan to develop the methodology behind “Your Fully Charged Life” which we discuss in this conversation.  
Meaghan is also a regular on morning shows, dispensing home and life hacks to audiences on: Today, GMA, and Live with Kelly & Ryan. 
You can also find Meaghan as a co-host of “Off the Gram” podcast, as well as with her husband Pat and three young children in Westfield, NJ.
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
How mindset relates to influence.  
The science behind how we can shift and alter our mindset. 
How Meaghan shifted her perspective and entire existence in ways that have enabled her to achieve and maintain a higher level of overall happiness. 
The role gratitude plays in helping us create a positive mindset. 
How to create more fun and more joy on a daily basis, and the impact that has on your overall outlook, including giving you better resilience when things don’t work out. 
Why there is great power in micro habits practiced consistently over time. 
Meaghan also shares a great tip on “job crafting,” which is especially valuable for anyone contemplating a potential career pivot, or who has become less challenged at work. 
Perhaps most importantly, Meaghan illustrates what I believe is the most important element of a positive mindset: working at it, and creating a toolkit of practices that help keep you on track, or recover and regroup when you stumble. 
 
WHAT’S ON YOUR MIND? AND WHAT CAREER CHALLENGES ARE YOU STRUGGLING WITH? Send me your thoughts on other topics that would be helpful to you, and be sure to share your feedback on this episode. I’d love to hear from you! 
You can reach me via the links below, or you can email me and the She Said team directly:  info@shesaid.media
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Title: “Are you underestimating your influence?”  
Episode 241
Guest: solo 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Every person we meet or interact with provides us with an opportunity for influence — positive or negative. That includes of course those with whom we spend most of our time, but it can also include complete strangers. 
Social psychology professor Vanessa Bohns says we often underestimate, or fail to consider, our potential for influence. These can be powerful interactions and can have more of a lasting impact than realize. 
I often talk about influence related to our careers. While this episode certainly contains some valuable career advice, it holds important value closer to home as well. 
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST:  I’m solo this week
 
KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
 
EVEN WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE THE TOOLS FOR INFLUENCE we can still benefit from being reminded to use them. 
 
WE HAVE MORE INFLUENCE THAN WE REALIZE: how are you using yours? 
 
THE “COMPLIMENT STUDY” BY PROF. VANESSA BOHNS may cause you to reconsider that seemingly awkward compliment shared with someone else.
You compliment has more impact than you may realize! 
 
HOW ASKING FOR HELP does more than just benefit the asker.   
 
Please be sure to let me know what you thought of this episode and topic, and be sure to send me other suggested topics you would find valuable.  You can reach me directly @ info@shesaid.media or via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 230:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  
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LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE: 
“You Have More Influence Than You Think” by Vanessa Bohns
 
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Until next week, you take care and I’ll talk to you soon. 
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SHOW NOTES
Title: “How to build a values-based brand and avoid the comparison trap”
Episode 240
Guest: MiMi Striplin, founder, The Tiny Tassel
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Have you ever fallen into the comparison trap?  You know the one where you look around — especially on Instagram or Facebook — and see what others are doing, and start comparing where you are — personally and professionally? And, before you know it, you’ve  fallen into a rabbit hole of self doubt that can obliterate your confidence. 
Sound familiar? 
 
Social media often gets much of the blame for this, but in reality that tendency would probably be there whether instagram existed or not. It’s just that we have more of a lens and more options to see what others want us to see — up close —  than we used to. 
 
It’s important to distinguish between competition and comparison. 
 
Competition is a good thing especiall when it challenges, motivates and inspires us. 
And, Keeping tabs on the compeition is important and gives us some great data.  But when we let competition drift and become an exercise of COMPARISION that’s when we enter the danger zone.  And it can be very difficult and even painful to navigate our way out. Comparison doesn’t just steal joy, as the saying goes, it also steals your ability to create real influence! 
 
This week’s guest shares such great wisdom on this topic, including how to know who to listen to. I know you’re going to love this converation and love her. 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Mimi Striplin is the founder of Charleston, SC based The Tiny Tassle. This joyful jewlery accessory and apparel brand is located on Spring Street in the heart of that beautiful city.  If you are headed that direction be sure to stop by and check it out, and tell her team that you heard MiMi’s story on She Said/She Said Podcast! 
 
In addition to showcasing her own unique designs that started with tassel earrings and have grown to so much more, MiMi is dedicated to using her influence and success to showcase and support others founders and artists. 
 
KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
How you can align your values with your brand, and why that matters; 
 
How to learn which voices to listen to as you get feedback; 
 
How MiMi got her start and the advice she shares for early stage entrepreneurs; 
 
How she tapped into her brand’s core values and how those values drive every part of her business, and help her navigate the competitive landscape. 
 
Why you might want to consider hiring a business coach. 
 
How to think about working smarter v. working harder. 
 
COLLABORATION WITH THE SOUTHERN COTERIE: 
My conversation with Mimi is a continuation of our collaboration series with The Southern Coterie. Over the past few weeks we’ve been talking with women who are part of that network of female founders and entrepreneurs and I’ve been sharing these conversations and their great advice for building their business and careers and doing so in a way that creates real influence for themselves, but also influence that they can and do then share with others. 
 
We’ve talked brand building with the queen of embellished accessories and specifically the embellished headband Lisa “Lele” Sadoughi, career sustainability with Franklyn West founder Ashley Miles, creativity and innovation with former Food and Wine editor in chief Dana Cowin, impact investing with Curate Capital founder Carrie Colbert, and mindset with author and caterer to the uber elite Mary Giuliani.  
You’ll find all of those episodes wherever you are listening to podcasts. 
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Title: “How your influence can support your entrepreneurial dreams”
WOMEN’S HISTORY MONTH BONUS ENCORE Episode 239
Guest: A’Lelia Bundles, journalist, author and great-great granddaughter of Madam C. J. Walker
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Building influence in your life and career can also help you create and leverage entrepreneurial opportunities— opportunities that don’t just serve your personal purposes, but that can help address an important need or fill a void that exists. When we get that right, it can make a tremendous difference in our ability to connect with our potential client or customer and in ways that help move them to become “raving fans!” It becomes a relationship, and something that’s much more powerful than a simple transaction. 
Over the past few weeks, I’ve been sharing a special collaboration series featuring women founders and entrepreneurs who are part of The Southern Coterie network. Like she said/she said podcast, The Southern C’s mission is to encourage and empower women personally and professionally and to do so by sharing stories, best practices, and advice. That sharing often leads to some powerful collaborations and some incredible opportunities! 
As I’ve been reflecting on entrepreneurship and collaboration, and the connection to influence, I’ve also been thinking about one of my favorite stories about one of the first women business founders who grew her company to become one of the first women millionaires, and the first woman of color to do so. Her story is one of not only entrepreneurship, but also connection, empowering others, and pure chutzpah. It’s a great compliment to our TSC series and also a great way to celebrate Women’s History Month! 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
A’Lelia Bundles is the great, great granddaughter of Madam C. J. Walker, one of the first women millionaires who built her company in the early 1900s to create products for African American women when few such products were available. With tremendous hard work and the support of her community of women, she propelled herself from laundress to entrepreneur and she did it using so many of the levers of influence that we talk about on this podcast. 
In this weeks BONUS ENCORE Episode to celebrate Women’s History Month, I’m sharing my conversation with A’Lelia which we recorded in 2021. 
A’Lelia is an award-winning journalist and historian who is the official keeper of her family’s history. Her book “On Her Own Ground: The Life and Times of Madam C. J. Walker” was adapted into a Netflix series that fictionalizes aspects of Walker’s story. 
 
KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
How Madam Walker’s service mindset helped her build a strong customer base. 
How Madam Walker used direct marketing to create a connection with her customer. 
How Madam Walker drew confidence from her close network of women. 
How she turned the investment she made in herself into investments in others in a myriad of ways. 
How A’Lelia perspective and commitment to Madam Walker’s story is the reason why we have a better understanding of her incredible accomplishments. 
 
How are you celebrating Women’s History Month? And which women are inspiring you? Please be sure to let me know. You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here: shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  or email me and the she said team directly: @ info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
 
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Title: “How to harness your creative gifts and build your unique brand”
Episode 238
Guest: Lisa “Lele” Sadoughi
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
One of the secrets to building a strong brand — for your company or for yourself — means tapping into the power of your unique story and those elements that make you and your business special. This can be a challenging, but when you’re clear on your core values and you’re aligning them with the things that you are passionate about, and using those things to help you create a product or a service that can then contribute to someone else, it can make all the difference. It can also help you differentiate yourself and your product in a powerful way! 
Tapping into what makes us unique and living in that uniqueness is also key to building influence. In this week’s conversation, I’m talking to the “queen of the headband” — an embellishment artist who has taken “dopamine dressing,” but more specifically “dopamine accessorizing” to a new, colorful, and sparkly level! 
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Lisa — also known as “Lele” — Sadoughi is the founder and creative genius behind her bejeweled, namesake brand Lele Sadoughi. 
My conversation with Lele is part of our collaboration series with The Southern Coterie. Over the past few weeks, I have been talking with incredible entrepreneurs and founders who are part of The Southern C network and who are sharing their expertise to help others. Whether you are already in the throes of running your business, just launching one, or maybe just thinking about what might be next, I think you’ll find great value in all of these conversations. 
Lele Sadoughi started her celebrated, colorful jewelry and accessory brand after working with an impressive roster of well-known brands — think Rebecca Taylor, Ippolita, and Tory Burch.  She also launched the first ever J.Crew costume jewelry collection before deciding to launch her own brand in 2012. 
What started with jewelry and accessories — most notably the bejeweled headband– has now expanded to include a range of other accessories including wallpapers. Each has a fun, colorful aesthetic that is very uniquely Lele Sadoughi. 
 
KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
How Lele got her start.
Why leaning into your passion (v. what others may be telling you) can be key to creating your business and your unique brand. 
How Lele manages her creative energy and her tips on finding inspiration. 
How to leverage the power of collaboration and Lele’s tips for picking the right partners (and walking away when it’s not working).
Lele’s advice for knowing when to pivot or expand, and why she advises brands to grow at their own pace. 
 
LELE’S TOP ADVICE:
“Realize that you don’t know how to do everything. Surround yourself with good, smart, trustworthy people who can make you a success and don’t try to do all the things that you don’t know how to do.”
 There is so much great advice and perspective in this episode. I know you’re going to love it, and I’m excited to hear your feedback. Please be sure to let me know what struck you in this conversation? I’d love to hear. You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 238:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  or email me and the she said team directly: @ info@shesaid.media
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Title: “How mindset can help you manage chaos, career pivots, and dramatically increase your chances of success”
Episode 237
Guest: Mary Giuliani
 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
There is something to be said for the power that comes with how we think about and approach challenges — The challenges we see coming, and know about in advance, and the ones that knock us over the head and surprise us.  
If you are normal, and if your life is anything like mine, you have a healthy serving of both types — and probably on a near daily basis. 
Our ability to navigate these challenges in a way that is positive — even when the outcome in the moment isn’t —- is often an important indicator of future success, because it helps us build resilience needed to plow ahead when things get rocky.  All of this underscores an important element needed for building and sustaining influence: mindset. 
Mindset is one of the themes in this week’s episode — the fourth in our collaboration series with The Southern Coterie, but specifically how it’s helped this week’s guest not only build an incredibly successful catering company, but also helped her realize a few other dreams as well. 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Mary Giuliani is an author, party and lifestyle expert and the CEO of Mary Giuliani Catering and Events. She  launched her company almost two decades ago, and since that time has created incredible events for some of the biggest names in business, media and entertainment. She’s also appeared regularly on shows like: The Today Show, Rachael Ray, Good Morning America, and the Barefoot Contessa among others.
Mary is the author of three books, with her third book: “How To Win Friends And Influence No One.”– which we talk about in this episode — due to be published in May and available for pre-sale HERE. 
This conversation is part of our collaboration series with The Southern C!
 
KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
MINDSET: Mary talks about the power of “delusional optimism” and how it’s impacted her journey. 
MAKING THE PIVOT FROM ASPIRING ACTOR TO CATERING STORYTELLER: Mary talks about how she knew when to pivot, and what made her approach unique. 
MARY’S SECRET TO CREATING MEMORABLE EVENTS: tapping into the power of story!
MARY’S TIPS FOR RECHARGING HER CREATIVITY
WHY MARY GIVES HERSELF A REPORT CARD: and how you can adopt a similar strategy for yourself. 
THE POWER OF INTENTION: when combined with mindset. 
Friend, Mary is charming and funny and delightful which is why it damned near broke my heart that I screwed up my end of the audio in our conversation. My fabulous editor Somnath dramatically improved the quality – so a big shout out to him!  But I found this week’s episode –and my mistake — a good teaching moment opportunity for myself, and maybe for you if you need to hear this advice which I explain in the episode. 
Mary talks about managing the chaos in her own business, and I took some much needed comfort from our conversation and I think you will too. 
 
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
I’m excited to hear your feedback. Please be sure to let me know what struck you in this conversation, and which of Mary’s tips and advice might you put to use in your own life. I’d love to hear! You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 237:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .

TITLE: “How to have a bigger impact and increase your influence by rethinking your investment strategy” with venture capital investor Carrie Colbert, Curate Capital   
EPISODE: 236
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: 
You’ve no doubt heard or received the advice to make sure your personal financial investment portfolio is diversified. But what about making sure that you are thinking about both influence and impact as you think about ways to diversify your financial strategy? 
As we build our careers and our businesses, it can be incredibly easy to put things like our investment strategies on the back burner. But in reality, a thoughtful and diversified approach to your financial investments can help give you additional options if/when you do decide to pivot from a job or try something completely new, including the possibility of turning your side hustle into your full time business. 
NOTE: Today’s conversation should not take the place of more personalized advice and review of your investment strategy, but it will give you lots to think about as you consider how your portfolio can help you build influence and impact in the process of saving for your future. 
If you find discussion of personal investing a bit too esoteric or frankly worry about putting your hard earned dollars at risk, this week’s guest will give you a different way of thinking about your investment strategy. And, she’ll make a hard sell on why women like you and me are actually the answer to increasing badly needed funding for women owned companies.
HOW DOES THIS TOPIC RELATE TO HELPING YOU BUILD INFLUENCE?  Quite simply, financial independence gives us freedom and autonomy. It also can enable us to invest in areas that are personally as well as financially rewarding. 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
This week’s conversation continues our collaboration series with The Southern Coterie, my guest this week is Carrie Colbert. Carrie is the founder and CEO of Houston-based Curate Capital, a venture capital fund that Carrie created to invest in women owned companies to help accelerate their growth. 
Her results continually speak for themselves, as her fund has consistently seen solid returns on its investments in many of her carefully selected portfolio companies. 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE: 

Carrie’s path to entrepreneurship and to running her own investment fund is a great example of continually leveraging what you’ve learned to build something new. 
Because Carrie didn’t limit herself to staying within a particular industry sector, it gave her a new platform for influence and ultimately impact, as well as an incredibly novel way of expanding support for women owned companies in need of outside funding. 
How Carrie took what she learned from the world of oil and gas investment and traded it in for an Instagram influencer side hustle, and how that influencer hobby became part of her education and grew her passion for investing in women owned companies. 
What you should know about becoming an “accredited investor,” and why it’s a lot less complicated than it sounds! 
How you can follow Carrie’s path and invest your own money in women-owned companies.
What you need to know when putting a pitch together that’s headed to Carrie’s desk. 
How Carrie talks about her big career pivots and the process she used for figuring out what was next for her. 

There is so much great advice and perspective in this episode, and I’m excited to hear your feedback. Are you rethinking your own investment strategy? Or maybe some additional ways that you can increase your impact? Please be sure to let me know. I’d love to hear!  You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find atshesaidshesaidpodcast.

WOMEN’S HISTORY MONTH BONUS/Encore Episode 
Title: “Understanding the influence of the first ‘podcaster’ at the White House”
Episode 235
Guest: Julia Sweig, author & historian on Lady Bird Johnson
 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Sometimes influence is something that happens behind the scenes. In some cases, we might not fully understand the impact until years later, as is the case with the story I’m sharing with you this week in honor of Women’s History Month. 
 
THIS WEEK’S BONUS EPISODE: 
I’ve pulled from the She Said/She Said Podcast archives to find a couple of episodes that showcase unique stories about influence, chutzpah, innovation, and impact. The first, which I’m sharing with you in Episode 235, is a conversation about a former First Lady who was not only a key adviser to the President, but who had her own seat in important meetings in the Oval Office. 
Known largely for her beautification and conservation efforts, what wasn’t well understood about this particular First Lady was how her efforts contributed to important policy making – including the passage of the Civil Rights Act. A personal historian in her own right, she could also rightly claim the mantle “first White House podcaster,” well before the medium existed. I’m talking of course about Lady Bird Johnson. 
When historian Julia Sweig ran across more than 123 hours of largely ignored audio tapes recorded by Mrs. Johnson herself during her time as first lady, she knew she found a treasure trove! The recordings begin with Mrs. Johnson’s first hand account of the tragic events that led to her husband becoming president. 
 
KEY TOPICS: 
In this encore episode, Julia joins me for a deep dive into:

how Julia stumbled across Mrs. Johnson’s audio tapes; 
what we now know about Mrs. Johnson’s influence with her husband and on key policy initatives including the Civil Right Act; 
Mrs. Johnson’s unique impact on history; 
insights and observations about Mrs. Johnson’s own admitted self doubt and insecurities, based on Mrs. Johnson’s own recorded words. 
the relationship between Mrs. Johnson and Mrs. Kennedy and how their connection ultimately evolved;
How Julia used this material to write “Hiding in Plain Sight” and then produced a terrific 8-part podcast series which includes clips from some of those original audio recordings made by Mrs. Johnson. I highly recommend this! 

 
Women’s history month is a perfect opportunity to reflect on how far we’ve come and to celebrate some of those lesser known stories about incredible women in our history. It’s also a great time to think about how our ability to influence — both publicly and privately– can hold incredible value and power.  
 
LINKS MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: 
“Hiding in Plain Sight” by Julia Sweig
 
In Plain Sight podcast 
 
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Title: “How to create real sustainability in your business and career”
Episode 234 
Guest: Ashley Miles, founder of Franklyn West
 
When you burn the candle at both ends, eventually you end up depleting yourself.  Your tank runs dry and you have no energy left to refuel. It feels terrible. It can also directly impact your ability to build and sustain the influence you need to accomplish your bigger goals. 
This week’s guest provides an interesting take on the topic which she approaches from the standpoint of sustainability! 
 
COLLABORATION SERIES WITH THE SOUTHERN COTERIE: This conversation is part of my second official collaboration series with The Southern C! Be sure to follow me and The Southern C on Instagram for more about the series and the amazing network of talented entrepreneurs and founders who make up The Southern C! 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Self-described former workaholic Ashley Miles is the founder of Franklyn West, an on demand consulting firm she created during covid in response to a dramatically changing work environment.  Seeing an opportunity, she developed what she refers to as “a Swiss Army Knife” approach to quickly addressing business challenges by leveraging her network as outside talent who can help employees and senior leaders navigate change.  
The principles she uses to help business create a sustainable, adaptable existence, also apply as we think about the best ways to manage ourselves— specifically our energy and our time. 
Prior to creating Franklyn West, Ashley served as the Global Chief Business Officer at Thrive Global, reporting directly to Founder and CEO Arianna Huffington, leading worldwide sales, marketing and business operations. Before that, she spent more than six years building and scaling Refinery29, a leading digital media and entertainment company for women.   
 
KEY TOPICS: 
How and why Ashley created Franklyn West, and the problem she set out to solve. 
How Ashley thinks about influence as she’s built a network that ultimately provides on demand talent to Franklyn West clients. 
Why Ashley looks at the dramatically shifting nature of work as an opportunity for businesses and individuals alike. 
How to manage your internal staff when you bring in outside help. 
Ashley explains why a “pivotal power agenda growth plan” matters.
How Ashely’s approach to identifying business “superpowers” also applies to helping individuals find their own.  
Ashley’s advice for building and expanding your network, and why it’s important to have a plan in mind. 
How giving back fits into a personal sustainability strategy. 
Ashley’s Five Filters for creating a sustainable life that prioritizes balance and alignment. 
Ashley’s advice for how you can create a “Hot List” to control your checklist.
 
QUOTE: “You are who you surround yourself with. When you surround yourself with people who inspire you, who show up with not only great skills and success, but with values and integrity, that’s who you become.” — Ashley Miles
 
 
ADDITIONAL LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 234: 
About Ashley
Franklyn West
Forbes Article

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Title: “How embracing creativity can help you navigate change in career and life!” 
Episode 233
What should I do next? Ever reach that point in your career and thought to yourself, “I need to make a big change, but I have no idea what’s next?” Maybe you’re apprehensive or afraid of making a big pivot and wonder, “what if this doesn’t work out? What then?” Or maybe, you already have a passion or side hustle that you are thinking about turning into a business, but you’re not sure about how to go about taking that risk? 
 
These questions are the ones I receive most often from women who are navigating pivots (and often rethinking or re-envisioning) life and career. It’s one of my favorite topics because the answer lies entirely in the person asking. But the path to figuring out what makes sense for her, of finding her “through line” and connecting the dots in ways that are unique to her, is an act of creativity itself. 
 
This week’s guest could reasonably be referred to as a queen of all things creative. Her voracious curiosity for life and everything in it fuels that curiosity! It’s how she thinks about and has used creativity to approach her own career juncture points — including those that she’s tackled most recently. She makes a strong case for why embracing creativity for problem solving is so vital and important. It’s also a key to how she’s differentiated herself and built tremendous influence in the process. 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Dana Cowin is a highly respective, accomplished and influential voice in the food, beverage, and lifestyle space. Her 20 years at the helm of Food and Wine Magazine shaped the way we think about food and wine today. 
During Dana’s tenure at F&W, she elevated the role of chefs and food personalities, changing the public’s understanding and appreciation for the work that happens behind the scenes in some of the most renowned and delicious dining establishments. She literally helped to create the notion of celebrity chef. 
She also expanded F&W’s coverage beyond more traditional French and Italian fare by introducing readers to a more diverse range of cuisines from Africa, Asia and Latin America. She also has helped to create more awareness around sustainability and ethical sourcing, as well as more awareness about food waste. 
Dana and I talk about her journey, and specifically how someone without culinary expertise landed in the top job at Food and Wine in the first place!   
More recently, she has reimagined her influence and platform through “Speaking Broadly” which takes both zine and podcast forms. 
 
COLLABORATION SERIES WITH THE SOUTHERN COTERIE: 
This conversation kicks off my second official collaboration series with The Southern C! Be sure to follow me and The Southern C on Instagram for more about the series and the amazing network of talented entrepreneurs and founders who make up The Southern C! 
 
KEY TOPICS EPISODE 233: 
How Dana became the editor-in-chief of Food & Wine, when culinary expertise was not her top skill!
How Dana approached figuring out what was next after two decades at food and wine.
The power of creativity and how we can spark it in our own lives and careers.
Why Dana launched “Speaking Broadly” in both podcast and zine formats, and her advice for you if you’re thinking about starting a podcast or zine of your own.
How Dana thinks about influence, and how she’s using the tremendous influence she’s built over her career.
How Dana thinks about mentorship and why it’s been a lifelong passion of hers, and her advice for the best ways to pursue the mentor who is right for you. 
 

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Title: “How to leverage professional conferences to build your network and increase your influence” — Episode: 232
Ever attend a professional conference or networking event and feel like you haven’t gotten your money’s worth? Or maybe you’re skeptical of the value in the first place? 
Building your network and investing in different types of relationships is critical for building and sustaining your influence, and certainly for growing your business and professional credibility. Professional conferences and networking events can be incredibly valuable tools to help you achieve this, but there are a few best practices that can help you maximize your investment of time and money. 
This week, I’m doing a deep dive into the topic and sharing some great tips and advice — some crowdsourced and some of my own. These tips align with the three key areas — story, investment, and intention — that we need to build and sustain influence in our lives and careers. 
KEY TOPICS:

How can “story” impact the way you approach a professional conference or networking event? 
Why investments of time and money in professional conferences can help you grow your network and make it more sustainable  
What it means to engage with “intentional persistence”
Two types of networks: “bonding capital” and “bridging capital” and why they both matter
The types of planning should you do before the conference or event
Why reach out to potential new contacts in advance?
How to make sure attending with a buddy or colleague increases your connection potential v. discouraging it
Using social media before, during and after the event
Carve out time to reflect, review and recalibrate 
Follow up!

I’d love to hear some of the other ways you use professional conferences and networking events to create connections and to build relationships. Send me an email: info@shesaid.media  or you can reach via the contact link below. Be sure to reference Episode 232. 
You can also share your thoughts with me on social:Instagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
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LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 232: 
The Southern Coterie – our She Said/She Said Podcast collaboration series with TSC launches February 24, 2023!
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Episode 231:
TITLE: “How changing your perception can change your reality!”
GUEST: CHRISTINA EANES 
 
Have you ever totally misread a situation? Maybe it was one where you were so convinced that what you thought was happening was happening, but in fact your perception was completely off? Maybe you missed some critical element in a conversation or perhaps your focus was geared too internally on your own emotion causing you to miss some critical clues? 
 
We’ve all been there. Some of us more times than we might like to admit!
 
But perception, when it’s faulty, can also impact our ability to build influence. Here’s why: you might mistakenly misinterpret the motives of others which can lead to misunderstanding and can impact your ability to build a rapport; or you might not fully appreciate your own value which can impact your confidence and ultimately undermine your ability to build influence. Additionally, faulty perceptions can also result in bias which can drive the wrong outcomes and can impact the quality of relationships. 
Why does this happen? And, how can we train ourselves to get better at learning to read and decipher those important clues? 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Christina Eanes is a former FBI violent crime analyst turned author, career coach, professional speaker, and podcast host. Her fascinating career has helped her develop a deeper understanding of how we can train ourselves to be more perceptive. Christina shares what she has learned about building the skills needed to help decipher clues that can be tricky and difficult to read.  
I actually joined Christina on an episode of her podcast which is called “Quit Bleeping Around” and we talked about what I’ve learned about influence and how we can build it. You can find that conversation in the links below. It’s a good one because it compliments what we talk about here. 
 
KEY TOPICS EPISODE 231: 
How our perceptions create our reality.  
The role of mindset related to our perceptions. 
The value of setting intentions before you are called to the stage or asked to comment.  
Why Christina has found escape rooms to be a particularly useful teaching tool and what we can learn about ourselves and others from using them. 
Why Christina uses an accountability approach and how she developed that approach.  
The impact of managing energy v. managing time. 
Why questioning and reflecting on your thinking, especially in conflict situations, can be a helpful exercise to test your perceptions especially about others’ motives, as well as our own.  
One of Christina’s tips for how to weather a setback, ask yourself, “What gift is this (setback, failure, or obstacle) bringing me?” 
 
There is so much great advice and perspective in this episode, and I’m excited to hear your feedback. Have you ever misread a situation only to find out later — maybe after a bridge has been burned, that you misread it? I’d love to hear about what you learned, and how this week’s episode relates to what you experienced.  Send me an email: info@shesaid.media  or you can reach via the contact link below. Please be sure to reference Episode 231. 
You can also share your thoughts with me on social:Instagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
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LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 231: 
Christina Eanes 

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Title: “How to create more productive, collaborative relationships at work and at home” 
Episode 230
Guest: Dr. Deb Mashek, author “Collabor(h)ate: How to build incredible collaborative relationships at work, even if you’d rather work alone”
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Collaboration is a good thing, right? So why is it so difficult to collaborate, especially with those who have a different point of view, or just rub us the wrong way? If we’re honest, it can be very hard to navigate those differences, and to do so in a way that yields the most constructive and potentially innovative results, while at the same time maintaining some semblance of a personal relationship. This challenge lies at the heart of what it often means to build and sustain influence in our lives and careers. So what can you do when you’re forced to collaborate with someone you simply cannot stand? What then? That’s the topic of this week’s conversation. 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Dr. Deb Mashek joins me to discuss her work and her newly released book ““Collabor(h)ate: How to build incredible collaborative relationships at work, even if you’d rather work alone.” Named one of the top 35 women in Higher Education by Diverse Issues in Higher Education, Deb’s is an experienced business advisor, professor, higher education administrator and national nonprofit executive, having served as the first Executive Director of the Heterodox Academy. 
She is also the founder of Myco Consulting, LLC where she “helps businesses navigate the relationship headwinds that tank timelines, bottom lines, and well-being.” Deb applies “relationship theory to understand and improve how individuals relate to others and to help people achieve together that which cannot be achieved alone.” 
KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
Why we need collaboration and the value it brings to projects and teams. 
Why we aren’t better at collaborating, why the problem is getting worse, and what we can do to develop these skills. 
Why avoiding conflict is actually one of the worst things we can do.  
How to rebuild a relationship where trust and credibility have been lost. 
How Deb’s childhood informed her passion for collaboration and her career journey. 
 
Whether you are collaborating in the workplace, in your own business, at home, at school or maybe all of the above, Deb’s tips and perspective can help make these interactions less painful and ultimately much more productive. 
Deb gives us so much to think about related to how we approach collaboration, and she shares some important ways we can draw out the most creative, innovative thinking from diverse groups.  
There is so much great advice and perspective in this episode, and I’m excited to hear your feedback. Are there any adjustments you might make in tackling your own challenging collaborations? Please be sure to let me know. I’d love to hear!  You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find atshesaidshesaidpodcast.com (click on Episode 230), or email us directly: info@shesaid.media
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere! 
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 230: 
Deb’s book: “Collabor(h)ate: How to build incredible collaborative relationships at work, even if you’d rather work alone”

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Title: Is perfection holding you back? Understanding the link between fear and perfection (and what to do about it!)
Episode 229
Guest: solo
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
The past few weeks on She Said/She Said Podcast we’ve talked about making our goals stickier, building our digital brands, and communicating our value. All of these things can be very important to building our credibility and also our influence. 
But there is often a roadblock we haven’t discussed that can sit in our path when we consider doing these things. It can also be an obstacle to our telling our most authentic and powerful stories, and taking the risk to do so. 
It’s perfection, and the fear and self-doubt that often underpin it. 
This week, I’m tackling this topic, along with how to recognize the signs and some ways to stop perfectionistic tendencies from fueling self-doubt. 
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
I’m solo this week, which gives me a chance to share my own perspective and experience with perfection, and some of the ways I work to manage it. For me, perfectionism never fully leaves me. I think that can be true for many people who struggle with perfectionism.  But, learning to understanding that, and learning to do a better job of recognizing the signs can be the key to truly managing it. Just because you experience perfectionism doesn’t mean it has to hold you back! 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
How perfectionism can impact our ability to build our strongest brand and tell our most impactful and authentic stories
Why I don’t think perfection ever completely leaves you
Two often overlooked signs of perfection: fear and procrastination
The dangers of over-preparation
How “doing” builds confidence, and can help counteract perfectionism 
5 specific tips for keeping perfectionism in check: 

Be proactive and create opportunities to challenge yourself. 
Create a pre-game strategy by making a list of what you think you will learn in advance of taking on a risk or trying something new and difficult. 
Create a post game analysis by keeping track of how those challenges turned out and what you learned in the process. 
Review your story and your mindset. How were you thinking about the challenge or risk going into it? 
Get some external feedback.
Give yourself a grade on how well you handled the feedback (HT: Adam Grant — I loved this suggestion!)

I’d love to hear if perfectionism, or the challenges I talked about in this episode, resonate with you, and also what strategies you use that help. You can message me at the contact link on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com . Click on Episode 229, or you can find me on  social media: Instagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere! 
 
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 229: 
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 226: How Story Can Make Your Goals And Resolutions Stickier In The New Year And Beyond! (Episode 226)
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 227: How To Stop Missing Out On Career Opportunities By Creating A Strong Digital Brand! (Episode 227)

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Title: Why doing great work just isn’t enough! You need to speak up! 
Episode 228
Guest: Dr. Laura Camacho, communications coach, author, and host of “Speak Up with Laura” podcast
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Tell me if this sounds anything like you: You put your head down and work, work, work. Folks often tell you, “you are the hardest worker we have on this team!” But, all that work, work, work hasn’t necessarily led to big promotions for you. What gives? Or, maybe that big idea that the team decided to pursue was actually yours, but you find you aren’t getting any credit for it. What could you have done differently? Or, maybe you were laid off, and your boss explained that it was because the company wasn’t clear what you actually do all day and how you add value. 
All of these problems may boil down to how effectively you are communicating not just the work itself, but the value you are providing, and how you are able to think about and communicate your value not only to the team, but more broadly. 
If you are a regular listener to She Said/She Said Podcast, you know that a particularly important dimension needed to build and sustain influence is story. The power of story applies in how we think about our value and how we communicate it, and how it helps us create more visibility for the value we are already providing. 
Today’s conversation dives into this topic and will give you lots to think about and some great tools for communicating your value so that you can build more visibility, and ultimately more influence!  This Episode is also a great build on last week’s Episode 227 where we focused on building a digital brand with Be The Brand Founder Madeline Fetterly. 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Dr. Laura Camacho is a communications coach, the author of “The Practical Guide to Effective Communications,” and the host of “Speak Up with Laura” podcast. One of Laura’s particular specialties is helping those who might identify as introverts to more effectively communicate their contribution, and the value of their work. 
There is so much synergy between Laura’s area of focus and my own that we decided to do a podcast exchange! Laura joins me here in this week’s Episode 228, and I’ll be joining her on “Speak Up with Laura” in a few weeks! 
KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
The link between effective communications and influence
Increasing your visibility: how to do that effectively, and why it matters
Visibility as a differentiator 
The impact of using the right (or wrong) language 
Introverts and extroverts and how each processes information differently
Laura’s origin story
Why the advice to “just speak up more” isn’t particularly good advice for building credibility and influence. 
Beware “overthinking” when someone asks for your view
How to avoid “Self-sabotaging language”
The role of emotion and creating intention around it 
There is so much great advice and perspective in this episode. I know you’re going to love it, and I’m excited to hear your feedback. Please be sure to let me know what struck you in this conversation? I’d love to hear. You can reach me via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 228:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere! 
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 228: 

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Title: How to stop missing out on career opportunities by creating a strong digital brand! 
Episode 227
Guest: Madeline Fetterly, Founder/CEO, Be The Brand Collective
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Building a personal brand and getting noticed for your work takes more than just “doing the work and doing it well.” While that’s important, one way to supercharge awareness of your potential is to invest in a digital strategy, and not just use social media to post photos of your dog (even though I’m sure she or he is very cute). 
As you think about the best ways to use the array of social media tools available, it can be confusing and overwhelming! How is the best way to get started tweaking your digital brand? Which platforms work best for which purposes? How often (and where) should you post for maximum impact? What if it all feels just too much, and like you are bragging? 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
We’re tackling all those questions and lots more with digital branding strategy pro Madeline Fetterly, the founder and CEO of Washington, DC-based Be The Brand Collective. 
Madeline’s advice in this episode will help you demystify the array of possibilities, while also helping you avoid some common pitfalls as you think about what to post, when and where, and also how to set some helpful goals to determine how your posting and sharing is going.   
Madeline’s original inspiration for Be The Brand grew from seeing incredibly accomplished, high-profile women missing out on opportunities because they failed to invest in their digital brands, or weren’t comfortable using and leveraging social media to promote their work.  
KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
Who needs a digital strategy and why? 
What are some initial considerations when trying to decide where to invest in your digital brand? 
How to demystify the different platforms and tools
Who are you trying to reach or influence? 
How can you make your strategy sustainable?
How you can align your digital strategy with other goals
How to ensure that you are creating an authentic, multidimensional digital brand that truly reflects you
How to get the best results when working with a third party or consultant to developing your brand
What’s the best balance between creating original content v. sharing others’ content? 
How you can use social media “prompts” to inspire your content
The biggest mistake Madeline sees people make
Why your story and how you craft it for your digital brand matters
Best practice: Someone visiting your website or landing page should get a good sense of who you are in 3-4 scrolls. 
Key Quote: “Nobody will start talking about you unless you start talking about you. So you have to be an anchor to position your work.” — Madeline Fetterly
There is so much great advice and perspective in this episode. I know you’re going to love it, and I’m excited to hear your feedback. Please be sure to let me know what struck you in this conversation? I’d love to hear. You can reach via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 227:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere! 
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 227: 
Madeline Fetterly

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Title: How ‘story’ can make goals and resolutions stickier in the New Year! Episode 226
 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Story is a powerful element needed to build and sustain influence, but it may also provide the key to helping you stay on track with your goals. 
In this week’s New Year/new season episode 226, we dive into how story can provide an essential tool for goal setting, and more importantly “goal sticking” in the New Year and beyond.  
 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
I’m solo this week! Which gives me a chance to talk about why I created she said/she said podcast podcast, and what you can expect in the weeks and months ahead. 
 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
What makes She Said/She Said Podcast unique?
Why “influence”?
What to expect from the season of She Said/She Said Podcast 
Today’s Episode:  
Why do most people fail with resolutions and goals?
The power of story
How story can help you align intention, and why that matters
Why you should consider “planning to fail”
When you think about YOUR story, does it reflect who you really are, and who you aspire to become? Is it focused on growth and learning? Are you giving yourself credit for progress made? 
 
QUESTION FOR YOU:
Do you set goals and resolutions for the New Year? I’d love to hear about your process and what works for you! You can message me at the contact link on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com . Click on Episode 226, or you can find me on  social media: Instagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere! 
 
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 226: 
The Southern Coterie – Summit Feb. 1-3, 2023
“Collabor-hate” by Dr. Deb Mashek
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 202 With Guest Sukhinder Singh Cassidy
Sukhinder’s book: “Choose Possibility”
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 169 With Guest Wharton Professor Katy Milkman 
Katy’s book:“How to Change” 
More about Laura’s Personal Year In Review process — She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 133 
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TITLE: “How to create more trust with your customer or client, and turn that trust into influence! ” (Episode 225)
BONUS EPISODE: 225
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
One of the most important components for building a real connection and relationship with your customer or client requires that you establish credibility and trust — something that is also important for building and sustaining influence. That means: doing what we say we’ll do, being honest, being who we really are, standing by our products, and doing our best to do the right thing where others — especially those we want to build some type of relationship with — are concerned. When we allow these pillars to guide us, we also increase –exponentially– the opportunity for building both trust and real influence with our intended client or customer, our employees, our partner or spouse, our children, and our neighbors. 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:
This week’s conversation is a little holiday bonus — I’ve repackaged a conversation from earlier this year with BURU Founder Morgan Hutchinson. Morgan and I recorded this conversation as part of She Said/She Said Podcast’s collaboration with The Southern Coterie in 2022. 
 
She Said/She Said Podcast will be the official podcast sponsor again in 2023, and I’m so excited about the incredible content that we’re working on for you as part of that! 
 
As I work on those plans, it seemed like a perfect opportunity to share one of my favorite conversations from last year’s Summit. 
 
Morgan is the founder and chief designer of Shop BURU. You’ll find her on Instagram @ShopBuru, and if you are looking for great fashion inspiration and incredible items, look no further! 
 
BURU is a women’s clothing line made primarily in Morgan’s factory in downtown Los Angeles, CA. Together with Brett Hutchinson — Morgan’s cofounder, business partner, and husband — Morgan has built a unique and innovative brand with a very clear view of: who her customer is, what she’s concerned about, and how she’ll help her customer solve a problem.   
 
As a mother of three young kids, Morgan’s journey into motherhood provided the initial inspiration for the BURU brand. In fact, breastfeeding — specifically — inspired the initial designs, but she’s continued to evolve the brand as her life and motherhood journey have evolved. 
 
I had a great time hosting Morgan for a BURU pop up for a few friends just before Thanksgiving — something I hope will become a regular tradition because it was the perfect way to pick up a few great holiday items to complete holiday outfits! 
 
Morgan focuses on establishing a high level of trust with her customer. You see that in her marketing efforts, especially on Instagram and on her blog, and you’ll feel that in today’s conversation. There’s also a level of vulnerability she shares with her customer and that she shares with me and ultimately with you as you listen.  
 
KEY TOPICS IN THE CONVERSATION:
TRUST: Morgan and I talk about what creating trust with your customer (or potential client) looks like. 
 
ENTREPRENEURSHIP JOURNEY: How her earlier experience starting her previous company “Passport Panties” informed how she and her husband Brett created BURU.  
 
PARTNERSHIP: We talk about why Morgan and Brett make good partners and what each brings to the table. 
 
FUNDING YOUR BUSINESS: We talk about why the choice she and Brett made to bootstrap BURU has been an important factor for balancing family, work and life. This is a really fascinating part of the conversation, and if you are trying to build a product-based business you won’t want to miss this!
 
MENTAL HEALTH: Morgan is incredibly candid in our ...

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Title: “How to Battle Overwhelm and Regain Focus” – EPISODE 224
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Feeling a bit overwhelmed and losing focus especially around the holidays? This week I’m sharing my two favorite, incredibly easy self-management tips that can help you pull up and get back on track. 
How does this relate to influence? 
How we invest in ourselves is a key component for building influence. That also includes investing in those strategies that help us stay focused, but that also help us get back on track when things simply get to be too much. Even when we plan carefully, this still happens. It can be helpful to have some quick fix strategies we can use until we have a chance to develop longer term ones.   
 
KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
TACKLING “OPEN LOOPS”: Open loops can leave you overwhelmed and can work against your ability to focus.  In the same way that your brain gets stuck on a particular refrain in a song or when you feel compelled to finish a Netflix series (even one that you don’t love because you just have to get to the end), your open tasks, to do’s, and projects can create the same type of mental loop. Without some process for corralling all of those things, your brain will operate in an often exhausting mental spiral that causes it to use more energy “looping” than actually solving the problem or dealing with the item on your list. 
HOW TO QUICKLY AND EASILY CLOSE OPEN LOOPS!  This is so easy you will not believe how well it works! 
BOOK: “Getting Things Done” by David Allen [Check out all my book recs on this Amazon List]
SCHEDULE A DATE WITH YOURSELF: Ideally after you have captured your “open loops.” Ideally, this is scheduled and something that will help your brain reset and regain focus.  
BOOK: “The Artist’s Way” by Julia Cameron [Check out all my book recs on this Amazon List]
 
Friend, these are quick fixes, but if you are anything like me, sometimes it’s the quick and easy things that you need to hit the reset button and get youself back on track. If you try these, let me know how they work for you. And, if you have other tips, please share. I’d love to hear what works for you!  You can reach via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 224:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
 Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere! 
 
MORE LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 224: 
she said/she said podcast Episode 223: How to pitch yourself for podcasts and actually get booked! 
 
AMAZON READING LISTS:
2022 She Said/She Said Podcast Authors
Laura’s Bookshelf Favs
 
IS SHE SAID/SHE SAID PODCAST ON YOUR GIFT LIST THIS YEAR? 
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Title: Five ways to get yourself booked on a podcast, and how doing so can help build your brand and your influence!  (Episode 223)
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Developing your expertise — and your credibility around it — is an important part of building influence. But equally important is finding opportunities where you can share that perspective in ways that help others and contribute to the broader discussion in some way. The incredible growth in podcasts presents endless opportunities for you to showcase your knowledge and expertise on this growing medium, but getting booked on top-rated podcasts requires that you do a few things first. 
This week, I’m sharing five tips for getting yourself booked on a podcast, and how doing so can help build your band and your influence. 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: I’m solo this week! 
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
In this week’s episode, I’m drawing from countless examples of pitches — the good and the less good, and sharing what will get your pitch moved to the top of the stack! I’m also sharing some perspective that will make you both a desirable guest, while also helping you build a connection with the host.  

Do your homework: think about specific topics you want to talk about and why and how those topics can be helpful to the show’s audience. 
Listen to a few episodes and make note of particular show structure.
Share examples of the advice you might give if asked to appear on the show: the more detail the better!
Tell the host what you are willing to do to promote the show when it posts.  
When using a PR team for pitching, manage them! It’s the only way you’ll be sure you’re receiving the best ROI!

Ultimately, all of these tips boil down to one key theme: aligning what you want to accomplish with the goals of a podcast, but always doing so with an eye toward using what you know to add value to someone else. When your pitch is oriented to help the host’s audience v. just focusing on how amazing your own story is (even when that is the case, as I’m sure it is), it will differentiate you and your pitch. Your personal story and your ability to use it to add value are not mutually exclusive! 
If you have questions or want to be considered as a guest on She Said/She Said Podcast in 2023, I’d love to hear from you! You can reach me via the link below or here:shesaidshesaidpodcast.com.  
You can also share your thoughts or direct message me on social media. You’ll find me most often onInstagram,Linked In, andFacebook. 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and contenthere! 
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 223: 
Lisa Gable Stand and Deliver Blog
Next Steps Forward with Chris Meek: Living your life with intention with guest Laura Cox Kaplan
 
IS SHE SAID/SHE SAID PODCAST ON YOUR GIFT LIST THIS YEAR? 
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Title: “How to build grit & entrepreneurial muscle with “failure rich” jobs! Episode 222
Guest: Julie Schechter
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Connection is an important and powerful component needed to build influence, but our lives are incredibly busy. We feel stretched — especially during the holidays. We can have the best of intentions about sending a gift or card, but can’t seem to find the time. Many of us are drifting apart from those who are important to us. It was that problem — and concern about a broader loneliness epidemic — that inspired this week’s guest — ballet dancer and lawyer turned entrepreneur Julie Schechter. This week’s episode is about Julie’s journey and her repeated career pivots. Her advice is incredibly valuable whether you are an aspiring entrepreneur or just looking to challenge yourself in a new way. 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Julie Schechter is the founder of Small Packages, and — soon to launch — Present App. Her entrepreneurial journey was inspired by a challenge she felt personally, and that she also saw others struggling with. But, the path she took to arrive at starting Small Packages was a less than linear one. From mastering in dance in college to pursuing a professional ballet career to AmeriCorps to Harvard Law School, to entrepreneurship — Julie’s story is fascinating! 
 
KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 
THE POWER OF DIFFERENTATION: Julie talks about how her unique path actually created differentation for her in applying to Harvard Law School. Think — Elle Woods from “Legally Blonde” but without without the scented resume. 
 
UNDERSTANDING YOUR STORY AND CONNECTIVE THREADS: Julie talks about the connective thread that ties her experience and resume and the particular skill that has proven most valuable to her in all of her career junctures including her more recent experiences as a founder and entrepreneur. 
 
HOW TO PULL THE PLUG ON SOMETHING YOU LOVE THAT ISN’T WORKING: This is an incredibly difficult thing to do as an entrepreneur, and Julie shares her thoughts. 
 
PICKING PARTNERS & CO-FOUNDERS: Julie shares her process, but also a particularly important piece of advice for having a “what if it doesn’t work out plan.” 
 
THE VALUE OF ‘FAILURE RICH’ JOBS: and how they can help you build grit that is essential for entrepreneurship. 
 
THE STORIES WE TELL OURSELVES ABOUT FAILURE: Julie talks about how this particular skill — which is so critical for building influence — is also especially critical for entrepreneurs in a way that is different from other jobs. Find out why!
 
There is so much great advice and perspective in this episode. I know you’re going to love it, and I’m excited to hear your feedback. Please be sure to let me know what struck you in this conversation? I’d love to hear. You can reach via the link in the show notes which you’ll find here in Episode 222: shesaidshesaidpodcast.com .  
 
You can also follow me and share your thoughts with me on social media on Instagram, Linked In, and Facebook. 
 
Looking for more She Said/She Said? You’ll find all of my episodes and content here! 
 
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 222: 
Julie’s companies: Small Packages and Present APP 
My conversation with author and investor

SHOW NOTES BONUS Ep 221 with author Kari Kampakis 
TITLE:  BONUS! Why your investment in self-care is about more than YOU! Episode 221
 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
We get so many mixed messages about self-care. For many of us, even doing the minimum amount can leave us feeling guilty. 
I often find the topic seems to be one of extremes. Taken too far self-care can legitimately become “selfish,” but when we don’t pause and take the time to engage in an adequate amount of  self-care, it means we’re not doing what we need to refuel in order to be the women and people we hope to be, and to have the impact we hope we can have. Holidays are often the most challenging and can leave us feeling incredibly depleted, guilt-ridden, or BOTH. 
That’s why I think today’s conversation is so important and will resonate with YOU. It’s also why I wanted to share this encore episode while I’m taking a break this week to recharge a bit and spend more time with my family. 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
My guest is Kari Kampakis. She is a best selling, award winning author and blogger and one of my favorite repeat guests here at She Said/She Said Podcast.  
 
In this encore BONUS Episode Kari joins us today to talk about her latest book — her fourth and my personal favorite of Kari’s so far. The book is called “More than a mom: How prioritizing your wellness helps you (and your family) thrive.” 
 
Kari has a way of articulating the challenges of modern motherhood that is grounded, practical, and spiritual. She often provides just the perspective that I need when I’m facing a parenting challenge, and I know many of her readers and followers feel the same. 
 
Even if you are not in the throws and joys of motherhood — or maybe even if motherhood isn’t part of your journey — I know you’ll find much to love and appreciate about Kari’s message. It’s an important one and not just for moms. 
 
HOW SELF-CARE RELATES TO INFLUENCE: 
Investing in ourselves is part of building and sustaining influence. That’s because it’s an essential part of how we become the people we want to become. It takes effort, work, and self reflection. It also reminds me of a personal mantra of mine: “you get what you give.” That concept applies to ourselves as well as to others. When we starve ourselves for the recharge and fuel we need, we’re less able to do all of the amazing things we hope and dream about accomplishing. 
 
KEY TOPICS: 
 
PRIORITIZING OUR OWN SELF-CARE INCREASES THE POSITIVE IMPACT WE HAVE ON OTHERS: Kari talks about several dimensions of this that I think you’ll really appreciate.  
 
TAMING THE TENDENCY TO MULTI-TASK: Kari talks about how she tames this Type-A tendency, while channeling her mental energy in ways that enable her to have a bigger impact 
 
WHY KARI SAYS BUILDING OUR NETWORKS IS AN IMPORTANT FORM OF SELF CARE: I love how Kari’s message about creating and tending our networks. Investing in our relationships is a key dimension needed to build and sustain influence in our lives and careers. 
 
HOW AND WHY KARI THINKS ABOUT HER LIFE AND CAREER IN SEASONS
 
WHY IT’S IMPORTANT TO LEARN TO “MOTHER OURSELVES”
 
KARI’S ADVICE FOR HOW TO AVOID GETTING SUCKED INTO DIFFERENT DEMANDS WHEN SHE’S MADE A COMMITMENT TO HERSELF
 
HOW KARI CREATED A BUSINESS OUT OF A PASSION FOR BLOGGING: You can find even more about her personal journey in our earlier conversation back in Episode 116 KARI KAMPAKIS. 

Wherever you are in your journey, I hope you find as much value from this conversation with Kari as I did,

Title: How to boost your holiday mood using gratitude and the power of story! Episode 220
 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
We often put so much pressure on ourselves to create the perfect holiday experiences. That added stress can leave us depleted, overstretched, and — if we aren’t careful — it can put our mental health at risk. We can’t fully eliminate stress (nor would we want to), but we can engage in a few strategies that I find particularly helpful. These things also tie into a couple of the most important dimensions needed for building and sustaining influence that I talked about back in Episode 215. Please be sure to check out that episode if you missed it!  
I’m releasing this week’s episode a few days before Thanksgiving. If you are anything like me, you are already on overdrive! All the more reason to make sure you have some additional tools and perspective in mind as you manage through holiday stress. This episode is short and a good one to listen to while you are running your errands, or taking a few minutes for yourself. 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
I’m solo this week! 
 
KEY TOPICS:
THE INFLUENCE / MENTAL HEALTH CONNECTION
REFRAMING OUR STORIES: Why we can’t overlook the more difficult ones, and why they matter so much. 
HOW THE FIRST THANKSGIVING was actually a celebration of survival. 
GRATITUDE LISTS ARE GREAT, but “other praising” may yield more value!
GRATITUDE, “OTHER PRAISING,” AND CONNECTION
GETTING TACTICAL WITH “OTHER PRAISING”
 
LINKS MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: 
she said/she said podcast – Three ways we can create influence that can help us to thrive – Episode 215
she said/she said podcast  Episode 205 with Dr. Samantha Boardman
“Everyday Vitality: Turning Stress Into Strength” by Samantha Boardman
Lydia Menzies Holiday Market and Supper Club
The Southern Bungalow Candle Company
The Southern Coterie 
Friend, I’m truly grateful for you — not just at Thanksgiving, but all year long! I hope you have a happy, safe and wonderful holiday. And, if you have an extra minute, I would love to hear from YOU! Tell me what you thought of this episode and how you work to boost your mood and battle stress, especially during the holidays. 
In addition to the contact link on at she said/she said podcast.com (below), you can also direct message me on Instagram @lauraCoxKaplan or Linked IN @LauraCoxKaplan 
I’d love to hear from you! 
And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes. Reviews help me improve our content, and that adds more value to your investment of time! And, it’s what friends do! I would be very grateful!

Episode 219 (part 2 of 2)
Title: Perfect? Or happy? Why perfection can suck the life and happiness right out of you
Guest: Karith Foster 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Shifting our mindset, and reframing the stories we tell ourselves is critical for building and sustaining influence. When we shift how we think about our circumstances, or maybe how we evaluate whether to take risks, the outcome — win or lose — can look very different. 
When we hold ourselves to a standard of perfection, we are likely to: shy away from risks that are more likely to lead to setback before they lead to achievement; second guess our gut instincts because we are worried of how we might be perceived (and that we will fail); and we will always feel “less than” because we are holding ourselves to a standard that isn’t ever achievable. 
Even when we understand how devastating perfectionism can be, it can be a beast to wrestle with! 
This week’s guest shares her story and her perspective on how to tame the beast of perfection. She knows, because she too has been there!
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
This is Part 2 of my 2 part conversation with comedian, author and entrepreneur Karith Foster. 
We jump right in where we left off in Part 1, Episode 218. If you missed part 1, please clickhere. 
 
KEY TOPICS in PART 2: 
Karith’s book: “You can be Perfect or You can be Happy: How to Let Go, Worry Less, and Enjoy Life!”
How Karith’s infant daughter almost died, and how that story led to Karith’s book title
Why you need to ask for what you want (and why specificity counts!)
The power of story — There are so many lessons and take aways from this two part conversation with Karith, including so many ways that her stories reflect aspects of how she has (and how we can) build and sustain influence in our lives. I’ll also be sharing a few more on social media over the course of this week — so please be sure to follow me on Instagram, Linked In , Facebook or find all of our She Said/She Said products and content here! 
 
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Until next week you take care. 
 
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Show Notes
Episode 218 Part 1 of 2 
Guest: Karith Foster
Title: How to say “yes,” use humor, and keep perfection in check
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: 
Ever have self-doubt and perfectionist tendencies keep you from saying yes? Yes to the big assignment, yes to the new, “stretch” job, or yes to the new client because you’ve convinced yourself they will say “no” before you even bother to make your pitch? 
We essentially talk ourselves out of even trying because we are afraid we might fail. Does any of this sound familiar? 
This week, we’re tackling the importance of overcoming self-doubt and fear of failure in order to say “yes” to those stretch goals and big opportunities, even when we may not (and frankly shouldn’t) have all the answers up front!  
But, the story doesn’t end there. What happens when saying “yes” holds some complications that make it more challenging than we could ever have imagined? What then? 
This week’s guest is our “Sherpa” for how to make sense of an incredibly difficult experience. How to use humor, reframe the story (and the pain) into something that can actually lead us closer to where we are ultimately supposed to be, and how that process is incredibly important for building our influence in a way that can also have a real and powerful impact for ourselves and for others. 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Karith Foster is a reformed stand up comedian and journalist who found a way to make humor a transferable skill. Her company Inversity Solutions was born out of an experience that forced her to take a good, hard look at what was most important and how she could use her talents to help others. 
Her incredible resume includes: working for Barbara Walters in the early days of The View, managing Human Resources at Estée Lauder, countless gigs in television, rapid and film, and working as on air talent for Don Imus at Imus in the Morning. Today’s she’s the founder of her company “Inversity Solutions,” which is taking a different approach to diversity training and to bringing people together. 
Karith has written two books including her latest: “You can be perfect or you can be happy: how to let go, worry less, and enjoylife.”
 
KEY TOPICS in Part 1, Episode 218: 
“INVERSITY”: what it means and why words matter in helping us find common ground, and why Karith built her company on this concept. 
SAYING ‘YES’: What Karith learned about missed opportunity, and how it propelled her into her most challenging job. 
USING HUMOR: Is humor a good choice for everyone? What if you just aren’t that funny? 
HOW HUMOR BECAME A ‘TRANSFERABLE SKILL’ for Karith. 
WORKING FOR DON IMUS: Karith tells the story of how she came to work for the late Don Imus. In her telling of the story, she shares the racially offensive language used by both Don Imus and Bernard McGirk in a 2007 exchange about the Rutgers Women’s Basketball Team. Neither Karith nor I condone this language, but we agreed that it was important to include as context for her story, and how the experience impacted the way she now thinks about her work at Inversity Solutions. 
NEXT WEEK: I’ll share Part 2 of my conversation with Karith in Episode 219, and we’ll dive into her terrific book: “You can be perfect or you can be happy: how to let go, worry less, and enjoy life!”
Please let me know what you thought of the episode! And, please share some love in the form of a review! Reviews and feedback help me improve our content and ultimately help me give YOU a better product week over week. And, it’s what FRIENDS do! So I’d be really grateful! 
I’ll also be sharing some additional takeaways about this and our other episodes on social media. Please be sure to follow me on Instagram, Facebook and Linked In you’ll find me @LauraCoxKaplan 

Title: “Seven ways to harness your fear using the power of story,” Episode 217
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Fear can be crippling when we don’t understand it, or haven’t learned the best ways to manage it. While your particular fears may differ from mine, there is one important dimension that aligns us. It also happens to be one of the key dimensions that helps us build and sustain influence. 
Can you guess what that is? 
It’s story. Specifically, the stories we tell ourselves about those things that provoke or trigger our fear. 
In this special “Halloween Episode” of She Said/She Said Podcast, we’re digging into the connection between fear, influence, and story and drawing great perspective from guests on this podcast. I share seven tips (summarized in brief below) that can help you understand and tame your fear while simultaneously building your influence. 
 
KEY TOPICS: 
Why Story Is Such A Powerful Part Of Fear
Seven Tips For Taming Fear

Reframe what happened
Remind yourself about what you learned from failure or setback (let it give you momentum for future risk taking)
Honestly assess the outcome (get help if you need it)
Before you take a risk, make a habit of asking yourself:  “what might I learn?”
Before taking a risk, “plan to fail” and think through what you’ll do when that happens
Remember “feedback” is not failure. Honestly assess the data!
Don’t relinquish your power to fear

 
Famous Quotes from the Episode: 
“You have the power over your mind— not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.” — Marcus Aurelius
“There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.” — Hamlet, Act II, Scene 2. 
“You gain strength, courage and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, ‘I have lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along.’ You must do the thing that you think you cannot do.” — Eleanore Roosevelt
 
We all feel fear. How we respond to it often means the difference between using it to propel us toward our goals, or allowing it to keep us stuck. The better equipped we are to understand and manage our fear, the more we can use it to help us build and sustain influence.
Let me know what you thought of the episode! DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, Linked In or Facebook —  I’d love to hear from you! 
And, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening. Reviews help me improve and create even better content to meet you right where you are on your journey! So, leaving a review is a good investment in both She Said/She Said Podcast and in YOURSELF! 
 
RESOURCES MENTIONED IN EPISODE 217: 
“Three Ways to Build Influence and to Thrive,” She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 215 
Kindra Hall: She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 203 
Kindra’s book: Choose Your Story Change Your Life
Sukhinder Singh Cassidy, She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 202 
Sukhinder’s book: “Choose Possibility” 
 
BONUS RESOURCE:
If career change is one of the areas super charging your anxiety and fear,

Episode 216: “How a problem solving framework for lawyers can help YOU build more influence!” 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
There is tremendous value in developing and fine tuning problem solving skills. What might surprise you is how a problem solving framework developed for law school students can help you build stronger connections with others, while also boosting your personal influence! 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
This week’s guest is actually a repeat guest — her name is Kim Wehle. She is a lawyer, author, and law professor at the University of Baltimore. Her latest book is called “How to Think Like a Lawyer — and WHY: a common sense guide to everyday dilemmas.” In the book and in this conversation, Kim shares a methodlogy she developed for her law students that has problem solving applicability well beyond Kim’s classroom, and is one she uses in her own life including with her four daughters. 
 
What I especially love about this conversation is that the topic goes well beyond problem solving. It’s really about how to create a different perspective in approaching challenging situations in our lives. That might include: a career pivot, preparing for a difficult or contentious conversation, trying to find common ground on some issue or topic, navigating the political minefield that we increasingly have to navigate with friends and loved ones, or in Kim’s case, even navigating a difficult divorce. 
 
KEY TOPICS: 
 
CURIOSITY & A GROWTH MINDSET: Kim’s approach helps us to reject an “us v. them” approach and learn to engage our curiosity to develop a problem solving orientation. It’s also a great example of how we can deploy a growth mindset. [If you haven’t read Stanford Professor Carol Dweck’s fabulous book “Mindset” add it to your list!]
 
KIM’S “BICAT” DECISION MAKING FRAMEWORK:  break it down, identify your values, collect knowledge, analyze both sides (or all sides), and tolerate. 
 
HOW KIM’S APPROACH CAN HELP YOU ACHIEVE BETTER OUTCOMES…. And might even save your time! 
 
HOW KIM’S APPROACH CAN HELP YOU BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND EXPAND YOUR NETWORK
 
Please let me know what you thought of the episode! DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, Linked In, Facebook, or Twitter —  I’d love to hear from you! You can also reach me at the contact me link at she said/she said podcast.com 
And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to the podcast. Reviews help me create better content for YOU! So by leaving a review, you don’t just invest in me, you are investing in YOU as well!  
Until next week, you take care and i’ll talk to you soon. 
 
LINKS MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: 
About Kim Wehle
Kim’s Books: 
“How to think like a lawyer and why”
“How to Read the Constitution and why”
“What you need to know about Voting and why”
Vital Voices Global Ambassador’s Program 
Kim Wehle’s previous appearance on SHE SAID/SHE SAID PODCAST in Episode 110

SHOW NOTES Episode 215: “Three ways to build influence needed to THRIVE”
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: This week’s topic was inspired by a thought-provoking conference I attended last week that was hosted by The Policy Circle. The theme of the conference was building thriving communities. As I reflected on the topic, I thought about how clearly it aligns with how we talk about INFLUENCE on She Said/She Said Podcast. 
Using that inspiration, this week’s podcast focuses on three ways you can build influence in a way that helps YOU to thrive. As I prepared for this week, I went back and pulled a few key episodes that illustrate dimensions of this around three key areas that illustrate this connection. I’ve included those links below. I’d love to know how you think about the link between influence and thriving! Please share your thoughts with me. 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: I’m solo this week, but so much of the perspective I share comes as a result of so many women and men who have shaped my thinking on this topic, including so many guests on She Said/She Said Podcast!  
KEY TOPICS IN EPISODE 215:
Don’t underestimate the smaller habits and practices that contribute to building influence. 
The connection between INFLUENCE and THRIVING.
3 Key Areas for building influence that also help you to THRIVE: 

Curating / editing our story: that includes what you learn from failure.
Investing in ourselves (and in others). 
Engaging with international persistence: thinking about taking action is fine, but actually doing it is even better!

This episode also compliments a LIVE podcast I recorded last week with my friend and the woman who encouraged me to start a podcast — The Policy Circle co-founder and host of Trust Your Voice Podcast Sylvie Legere. In my conversation with Sylvie we dig a little deeper into the topic, so be sure to check that out on Trust Your Voice (link below) as well!
LINKS FOR ADDITIONAL LISTENING / READING / INSPIRATION:
The Policy Circle
BOOK: “Mindset” by Professor Carol Dweck
Episode 188 with Kari Kampakis
BOOK: “More than a Mom” by Kari Kampakis
Episode 205 with Dr. Samantha Boardman
BOOK: “Everyday Vitality” by Dr. Samantha Boardman
Episode 158 with Dina Powell McCormick
Episode 191 with Susan McPherson
BOOK: “The Lost Art of Connecting” by Susan McPherson
Episode 63 with Brittany Underwood, CEO of Akola — admitting failure, pulling the plug and starting over
Trust Your Voice Podcast
 
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Title: “How to design your life for more meaning and more tranquility” Episode 214 Part 2 of 2
GUEST: Laura Vanderkam, time management and productivity expert
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Ever feel like your to-do list is running your life? Maybe you’re frustrated that you don’t have time for the types of experiences that make life more meaningful? Maybe you feel like your time is literally flying, but you don’t feel like you have much to show for it?
These feelings are familiar to most of us, and they are often accompanied by an overall feeling of being overwhelmed. In this state, it’s very difficult to take a step back and experience joy or to work to invest in those experiences that help us build and sustain influence in our lives and careers. 
This week’s guest will help you redesign your life to not only get more done, but to help you calm the chaos. 
Chaos — and the overwhelm it leads to — can hijack our precious mental energy (as we talked about in Episode 209) diverting it away from those projects and people who are most important to us. It’s calmness that enables us to be more present, while still getting all the things done that have to happen in a given day or week. It also happens to be an essential building block for building and sustaining influence! 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Laura Vanderkam is a time management and productivity expert, and the author of “Tranquility by Tuesday,” her latest book among an impressive library of some nine books on time management and productivity including: The New Corner Office, Juliet’s School of Possibilities, Off the Clock, I Know How She Does it, What the Most Successful People Do Brefore Breakfast, and 168 Hours. Her work has appeared in: The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Fortune and Fast Company, and she is a repeat guest on She Said/She Said Podcast (Episode 93)having joined me back in 2020 to talk about WFH strategies with kids during the pandemic. Laura also hosts two podcasts: Before Breakfast, and co-hosts The Best of Both Worlds with Sarah Hart-Unger. 
NOTE: The conversation with Laura Vanderkam is split into two episodes — Episode 213 Part 1, and Episode 214 Part 2, which gives you the option to listen to the entire conversation (both episodes back-to-back) which runs about an hour, or you can split them up listen in two separate 30-35 minute episodes. Your choice, but I do recommend listening to the episodes in order 213 followed by 214.    
 
KEY TOPICS PART 1 – EPISODE 213:

TIME AWARENESS: Why time awareness and understanding more precisely how we spend our time can inform a more honest self narrative or story about our time and how busy we actually are v. how busy we think we are.
INCREASE YOUR HAPPINESS? Why time awareness might make you feel better and even happier.  
SHOULD YOU PLAN YOUR WEEK ON SUNDAY? Why you might want to rethink the conventional wisdom of planning for the week ahead on sunday.  
LAURA’S 3-CATEGORY LIST: The benefits of a 3-category list for the upcoming week.
HOW SHOULD I SPEND MY SUNDAY? Why spending Sunday more focused on fun than on the week ahead might be more valuable. 
LAURA’S TIP “ONE BIG ADVENTURE” AND “ONE SMALL ADVENTURE”: The power of making space for “one big adventure” and “one little adventure” and how that can make your time more memorable.

PART 2 EPISODE 214: 

MINDSET: How your mindset impacts how you view time.
BATCHING: Why and how to “batch” smaller tasks.
FALSE NARRATIVES: How to tackle your own false narratives ab...

Title: “How to design your life for more meaning and more tranquility” Episode 213 Part 1 of 2
GUEST: Laura Vanderkam, time management and productivity expert
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Ever feel like your to-do list is running your life? Maybe you’re frustrated that you don’t have time for the types of experiences that make life more meaningful? Maybe you feel like your time is literally flying, but you don’t feel like you have much to show for it?
These feelings are familiar to most of us, and they are often accompanied by an overall feeling of being overwhelmed. In this state, it’s very difficult to take a step back and experience joy or to work to invest in those experiences that help us build and sustain influence in our lives and careers. 
This week’s guest will help you redesign your life to not only get more done, but to help you calm the chaos. 
Chaos — and the overwhelm it leads to — can hijack our precious mental energy (as we talked about in Episode 209) diverting it away from those projects and people who are most important to us. It’s calmness that enables us to be more present, while still getting all the things done that have to happen in a given day or week. It also happens to be an essential building block for building and sustaining influence! 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Laura Vanderkam is a time management and productivity expert, and the author of “Tranquility by Tuesday,” her latest book among an impressive library of some nine books on time management and productivity including: The New Corner Office, Juliet’s School of Possibilities, Off the Clock, I Know How She Does it, What the Most Successful People Do Brefore Breakfast, and 168 Hours. Her work has appeared in: The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Fortune and Fast Company, and she is a repeat guest on She Said/She Said Podcast (Episode 93)having joined me back in 2020 to talk about WFH strategies with kids during the pandemic. Laura also hosts two podcasts: Before Breakfast, and co-hosts The Best of Both Worlds with Sarah Hart-Unger. 
NOTE: The conversation with Laura Vanderkam is split into two episodes — Episode 213 Part 1, and Episode 214 Part 2, which gives you the option to listen to the entire conversation (both episodes back-to-back) which runs about an hour, or you can split them up listen in two separate 30-35 minute episodes. Your choice, but I do recommend listening to the episodes in order 213 followed by 214.    
 
KEY TOPICS PART 1 – EPISODE 213:

TIME AWARENESS: Why time awareness and understanding more precisely how we spend our time can inform a more honest self narrative or story about our time and how busy we actually are v. how busy we think we are.
INCREASE YOUR HAPPINESS? Why time awareness might make you feel better and even happier.  
SHOULD YOU PLAN YOUR WEEK ON SUNDAY? Why you might want to rethink the conventional wisdom of planning for the week ahead on sunday.  
LAURA’S 3-CATEGORY LIST: The benefits of a 3-category list for the upcoming week.
HOW SHOULD I SPEND MY SUNDAY? Why spending Sunday more focused on fun than on the week ahead might be more valuable. 
LAURA’S TIP “ONE BIG ADVENTURE” AND “ONE SMALL ADVENTURE”: The power of making space for “one big adventure” and “one little adventure” and how that can make your time more memorable.

PART 2 EPISODE 214: 

MINDSET: How your mindset impacts how you view time.
BATCHING: Why and how to “batch” smaller tasks.
FALSE NARRATIVES: How to tackle your own false narratives ab...

SHOW Notes Episode 212
Title: “Quiet quitting” might sound good, but is it all it’s cracked up to be? 
TOPIC:   “Quiet quitting” might sound good, but is it all it’s cracked up to be? Might it actually represent a missed opportunity to invest in YOU?
Hey friend! This week, we take a look at the concept of ‘quiet quitting’ through the lense of influence, and what it means to fully invest in work in a way that doubles as an investment in YOU. Whether you give work your “all” or not, the time you spend there is an investment and not just in the organization. 
 
THE INFLUENCE CONNECTION: 
An important part of building and sustaining influence means understanding your investments — where you spend your time, your money, and your effort and whether those “investments” are increasing your knowledge, your network, and/or your skills. It’s about “influence capital” and building it in ways that are valuable and potentially transferable. 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: I’m solo this week! 
 
KEY INSIGHTS / QUESTIONS WE’LL DISCUSS: 

What is ‘quiet quitting?’ 
Why life’s unexpected ups and downs make ‘quiet quitting’ a big risk.
What’s the impact of ‘quiet quitting’ on YOUR confidence? 
What if that side hustle you’re building needs support or a recommendation from your boss or colleagues — you know the one(s) you are ‘quiet quitting’? 
Check out my FIVE potential alternatives to ‘quiet quitting’ that might help you better leverage your time at work, and create more value both for YOU and for the organization. 

 
What are your views on ‘quiet quitting’? If you are engaged in it or struggling to manage those who are, I’d love to hear!  
And, please be sure to let me know what you thought of the episode. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, Linked In, Facebook or Twitter — I’d love to hear from you! You can also contact me here: Laura Cox Kaplan
Please be sure to FOLLOW She Said/She Said Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts, and if you find value in what you hear, please be sure to leave me some love in the form of a review! Reviews help others who are looking for content like this to find it. So by leaving a review you don’t just help me, you help others as well!
Have a great week! 
 
LINKS REFERENCED
Next week I’ll welcome Laura Vanderkam to discuss her new book: “Tranquility by Tuesday” – you can preorder here.  And, please be sure to FOLLOW She Said/She Said Podcast so you won’t miss a minute!

SHOW NOTES: Episode 211, Part 2 with Andrea Koppel
EPISODE TITLE: 
“How ‘getting fired’ can motivate you to pursue your dream!” Episode 211
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Have you ever been miserable in a job, but are too afraid to quit? Maybe it’s a job you once loved, but outgrew? Maybe you think you can’t afford to quit, or can’t take a risk that quitting might leave yourself or your family financially vulnerable? Or, maybe your life changed and the job doesn’t fit your priorities anymore? 
Whatever the reason, I’ll bet you can relate.
HOW THIS RELATES TO INFLUENCE: 
When you are miserable — in a job or otherwise — it can be especially hard to bring your full self to a project or to engage fully in your life or work. Mindset matters a great deal as no situation, project, or job is perfect 100 percent of the tie. But if you can’t fundamentally change what’s wrong, sometimes the best course — at least in the short term — may be to focus on those aspects that you do enjoy and that do speak to you, at least until you are able to make a more significant pivot. 
A key component of influence is understanding our value and how to deploy it in ways that help us connect and create value for others. When we do that, it also tends to create more value for ourselves as well. 
Influence also means we learn how to understand our fear, and what’s driving it, and the best ways to address it, just as this week’s guest talks about in this episode. 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
ANDREA KOPPEL is an award-winning journalist and founder of Time4Coffee Podcast and the College to Career Academy. She spent two decades in journalism, the last 14 of them with CNN before being fired in 2007. That sent her on a self-described “Goldilocks” search for a new career. But, it was her tireless curiosity, commitment to life-long learning, and the skills she learned as a journalist that ultimately helped her land in a place that aligned more fully with her passions and helped her create a career that she truly loves.  
KEY TOPICS:
WHY GETTING FIRED CAN BE A POSITIVE: Andrea talks about how coming to terms with getting fired (twice!) gave her the courage to ultimately pursue something that has shifted her perspective and more directly aligns with her core values. 
WHY SOMETIMES IT TAKES GETTING FIRED TO “WAKE UP” and make the career shift you need to make. 
WHY SHARING YOUR DREAM WITH OTHERS CAN BREATHE LIFE INTO IT: Andrea acknowledges that while personal situations can be unique, it can be both cathartic and can increase accountability by sharing your dream. 
WHY LIVING WITH AUTHENTICITY IS A VALUE OF ANDREA’S and how it underscores the way she thinks about influence. 
QUOTE: A favorite quote of Andrea’s is from a past guest on her podcast, Dov Barron: “The treasure you seek lies in the cave in which you fear to enter.” It’s a perfect quote for this episode!
 
Even if you haven’t been fired, I think you’ll find so much great perspective from this conversation. I especially loved that Andrea admitted she probably wouldn’t have left a job she was miserable in if she hadn’t been forced to. 
Wherever you are in your journey, I hope you found today’s conversation a good investment in YOU, and I’d love to know what you thought. 
Message me on Instagram, Linked In, Facebook, or Twitter — I’m @lauraCoxKaplan . Or leave a comment on my contact me form at shesaidshesaidpodcast.com 
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MORE ABOUT ANDREA KOPPEL:

SHOW NOTES EPISODE 210: “How to find your passion, and a career you’ll love!”
GUEST: Andrea Koppel (Part 1 of 2)
TOPIC: Has anyone ever told you, “just follow your passion”? But what if you aren’t sure you know what your “passion” is? 
Or, maybe, as was true for me, what you were passionate about when you first launched your career has shifted as you’ve grown and evolved. What then? 
This week, we’re tackling the topic of understanding and learning how to find our career and our passion, but perhaps even more importantly — how to do so over and over and over again.
If you Google “find your passion” or “how do find a career you’ll be passionate about,” there is an endless supply of advice. But one thing you likely won’t find is how the topic of finding your passion relates to influence. 
Interest, and being interested, and approaching new ideas and opportunities with curiosity and an open perspective aimed at what you can learn is a critical part of building and sustaining influence. Doing so requires that we embrace a mindset that is focused on growth, versus one that shuts you off from new ideas and opportunities you might not otherwise have considered. This openness related to your career can help you connect the dots between your interests and passions and help you find ways to parlay those things into career opportunities throughout your life. 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:
Andrea Koppel is the founder of College2Career, a digital, learning platform that enables her to help anxious college students and recent graduates figure out the types of jobs and careers that they will love. 
As someone who has held successful careers in more than four industries over the course of her 30 year career, she knows both how to tap into your passion, but also how to evolve it as you evolve and grow in your life and career — a fact that becomes even more important as we progress and become more experienced. 
Prior to starting College2Career and her Top 100 ranked career podcast Time4Coffee, she was a CNN correspondent, Public Relations SVP, and nonprofit executive — which included working at the Red Cross and at Mercy Corp. 
KEY TOPICS:
TRANSFERABLE SKILLS: Andrea talks about the importance of understanding what you know and how to align that with a potential career or job. 
YOUR “INTERESTS” V. “YOUR PASSION”: Andrea talks about why your “interests” tends to lead and inform your passion.  
YOUR INTUITION: Andrea shares how tapping into her intuition through meditation unlocked her latest passion, her next career, and how it can do the same for you. 
COMBATTING FEAR: Pursuing a new passion or making a major career shift at any stage can be terrifying. Andrea and I talk about how to quiet that fear, including the fear that’s often inspired by others who have the best intentions, but who might be undercutting our ability to listen to our own gut. 
PART 2: In Episode 211 (Part 2) of my conversation with Andrea (which will post next week), we’ll pick up our conversation with the topic of FAILURE — recovering from it and using it. Andrea has some great stories about slogging through especially after her high profile firing from CNN. We all know that we learn from failure and setback, but how do you dust off and keep going when your “failure” happens in the high profile world of TV news? 
Did you find this episode a good investment of your time? I’d love to hear! Please send me a note via the contact link or DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, Linked In, Facebook, or Twitter. Sharing your thoughts with me helps me create better content for YOU! And, it helps others who are looking for content like this to find it. So, please reach out. And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on Itunes. 
MORE ABOUT ANDREA KOPPEL:

SHOW NOTES Episode 209: 
TITLE:  “How to be less busy, but accomplish more (while also building more influence!)” – Episode 209
TOPIC: Ever find that you are busy beyond belief, but you don’t have much to show for it? Or maybe, you are working incredibly hard, but you aren’t actually making progress on those bigger and more important goals? 
The problem might be that you are prioritizing your time over your peak mental energy. When we do that we tend to work more, but we don’t necessarily produce the highest value results — and we likely don’t increase our influence. 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: As I roll out the first episode of a new SHE SAID/SHE SAID PODCAST season, I’m solo, but drawing on work from Isaiah Hankel, Ph.D. and his book “The Science of Intelligent Achievement.” If you are like me and a self-described, card-carrying member of the “busy girl club,” I think you’ll find much to love and to think about in this book and in this episode. 
KEY THEMES: 

Why do we often create practices that seem to increase our productivity, but that in fact undercut it? 
What’s the connection between mental energy and work that helps us build more influence? 
We all have 1,440 minutes each day. According to Dr. Hankel and supporting research, the average person has about 90-120 minutes of “peak” mental energy each day and around 200-300 minutes (some 4-5 hours) of “near peak” mental energy each day. That’s assuming you have no distractions and are operating at your peak level of mental energy. 
If you have all that potential mental energy, why is it so hard to channel it into higher value tasks and focused work? 

 
We’ll continue building off of this theme related to mental energy and productivity this season, but with the variety of guests and thoughtful perspectives around those topics and much more!  Be sure to subscribe so you won’t miss a minute! It’s a great way to invest in YOU!
And, please be sure to let me know what YOU think of this week’s Episode, and please share other suggested topics that would be helpful to you. You can reach me via the contact link below or at shesaidshesaidpodcast.com  or on social media — you’ll find me @ Laura Cox Kaplan on Instagram, Facebook, Linked In, and Twitter. 
 

TITLE: How to increase your problem solving skills in ways that help you build influence and credibility!  BONUS EPISODE 208
GUEST: Lisa Gable, author and problem-solving expert
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Seemingly intractable problems just come with the territory, especially at a time of such incredible uncertainty and change! Every one of us — at one point or another — has found herself in a job where the problem we were hired to solve seems impossible, or as part of a team that just doesn’t quite gel, or in a business where you just can’t figure out why customers aren’t clamoring for your product or service.  Figuring out what can at first seem “un-figure-out-able” is the key to recalibrating and finding a way to move forward. Doing this effectively and in ways that enable you to build stronger relationships and add more value as a problem solver will without a doubt help you build greater influence.  
NOTE: This week’s BONUS CONVERSATION in Episode 208 is a repackaged conversation. You can find the complete, earlier conversation in Episode 164. 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:
Lisa Gable, recognized worldwide as a “turnaround mastermind,” has the résumé to prove it. She’s not only served four U.S. presidents and two governors, but she’s been a U.S. Ambassador, an advisor to numerous Fortune 500 companies and, most recently, served as the CEO of FARE, the world’s premiere organization fighting food allergies. Bi-partisan in nature, she has brought together political parties, corporate competitors and disparate nations to foster quality leadership, diplomacy and results that better society and create sustainable partnerships and profitable business models. By doing so, she’s orchestrated the successful turnarounds of private and public organizations in all industries. Named one of the Most Innovative Businesswomen in 2020 by The Business Berg, she is the author of a new, already best-selling book, Turnaround.
 
KEY TOPICS:
SPEAK WITH FACTS: how not just speaking up, but speaking up after arming yourself with facts helps you build greater credibility and influence.  
HOW TO FIRE SOMEONE: and why transparency and objectivity are important tools for preserving the relationship. 
LEARN THE SECRETS TO DEVELOPING GOOD PROBLEM SOLVING SKILLS: Lisa outlines her methodology which is rooted in manufacturing principles. 
PICKING, UTILIZING AND BECOMING A GOOD MENTOR: How having the right mentor can spur your career path, and why being a mentor is an indispensable societal deliverable. 
GROUP DYNAMICS: How knowing the difference between “bad apples” and “bad bananas” can change — and improve — challenging group dynamics.
REFRAME STUMBLING BLOCKS AND FAILURE: How more often than not your biggest stumbling blocks can turn out to be your greatest stepping stones. 
SETTING PRIORITIES FOR PROBLEM SOLVING: Why the “one bite at a time” strategy is so hard — but so necessary. 
HOW TO FIGURE OUT YOUR CORE COMPETENCIES….and why it matters. 
Let me know what you thought of the episode! You can reach me via the contact form below, or DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, Linked In, Facebook or Twitter.  I’d love to hear from you! And, if you found value in this or any of our episodes, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes. Your input helps me continue to create content that meets you right where you are! And your reviews help others who are looking for content like this to find it.  Most of all, I hope you found the time you spent with me a valuable investment in YOU! 
You can also find a full transcript of Episode 208 embedded in the show notes at she said/she said podcast.com. 
MORE ABOUT LISA GABLE 
Lisa’s book: Turnaround: How to Change Course When Things Are Going South” 

SHOW NOTES BONUS EPISODE 207
GUEST: CLAIRE SHIPMAN, AUTHOR THE CONFIDENCE CODE
TITLE: How to build your confidence, even when you are not feeling it! 
Topic: 
What does it mean to be confident? We know confidence when we see it, but what does it really mean? What makes one person seem more confident than another? And can one’s confidence waiver from day to day? Is a person who is confident one day “always” confident?  
I don’t know anyone who can honestly say they don’t struggle with confidence — at least some of the time. Some of us struggle with it more often than we might like to admit. But after hundreds of conversations on this podcast in which the topic of confidence inevitably comes up, what I’ve found is that confidence is something you build and maintain — frankly much like influence. For most people, it is not static. We often have to adjust what we’re doing — and how we’re thinking — and the stories we tell ourselves — to maintain or boost our confidence at those times when we need it most. 
Confidence is also key to building and sustaining influence. Understanding it can make a big difference in our ability to make choices that help us continue to build this capacity.  
This week’s Guest: 
In this week’s BONUS EPISODE 207, I pulled from the way back she said/she said podcast archives a conversation with journalist and author Claire Shipman. Claire, together with her co-author and fellow journalist Katy Kay, wrote The Confidence Code, and later the Confidence Code for Girls. I love the Confidence Code because it does a great job of explaining the science behind confidence, but also puts everyday scenarios into context. That’s what Claire and I do in this conversation. 
KEY THEMES:
* Why confidence is as important as competence in the workplace. 
* Confidence should not be viewed as a trait, but rather a SKILL that can be learned. 
* How confidence impacts risk taking and why. 
* The role of genetics related to confidence. 
* The role of brain plasticity related to building confidence. 
* How “doing” and taking risks — even small ones — creates more confidence. 
* The confidence shift that often occurs in girls starting around age 12.
* Write down FIVE risks you can take to build your confidence. 
* Why “doing it afraid” is important for building confidence. 
 
Episode Links and Books: 
The Confidence Code
The Confidence Code for Girls
 
FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile and would love to hear your thoughts. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook. Or, use the contact link below or on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to she said/she said podcast. 
 

EPISODE TITLE: How to make your experience & skills transferable, even when you have a resume gap (BONUS EPISODE 206)
GUEST: Jodi Glickman – founder/author “Great on the Job” [originally recorded in 2021]
Episode 206
Have you ever struggled to make your particular skills and experiences fit a neatly packaged job description? Maybe you’ve found a position or a board seat or maybe a client who you think you’d be perfect for, but you’re not sure how to turn your existing skills into a compelling pitch that differentiates you from the competition? Or maybe, you decide you won’t even try for the position because your experiences don’t directly align with the stated requirements? 
Learning to take your unique skills and experiences and deploy them to fit opportunities is itself a skill. The key is learning to take what you can already do and figure out how you can add value whether it fits a stated job description or not. That also means you have to tackle — or at least reframe — any lingering self-doubt about putting yourself forward. 
Doing this well can be an important key for building and sustaining influence because it requires that you understand your value, and how to deploy it in ways that add value to others. 
That’s the topic for this Bonus Episode 206 of She Said/She Said Podcast.  
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:
Jodi Glickman is passionate about developing leaders, and making her clients look great on the job. She’s a master at helping people think through how to best position themselves for their next move – inside their current company, getting that first job, or making a major career pivot. She’s the CEO and founder of a company called Great on the Job, and she’s the author of a book by the same name. Her client roster has included: Linked In (where she teaches career development courses), JP Morgan, Abbott, and Harvard Business School. She’s also appeared on the TEDx stage with a talk entitled “Why You Should Stop Looking for Work You Love.” 
KEY TOPICS:
TRANSFERABLE SKILLS: how to think about what you know and what you can do and to deploy those things for opportunities you might not otherwise have considered. 
“G.I.F.T.”: How generosity, initiative, forward momentum, and transparency are Jodi’s keys to making you “Great on The Job” and for making people want to work with you.
RESUME GAPS: If you’ve taken some time off, how you can explain that to a potential future employer and why Jodi says “transparency” is important. 
CONFIDENCE: How to develop some key confidence hacks. 
WHY JODI SAYS YOU SHOULD STOP SEARCHING FOR WORK YOU LOVE
HOW TO DEVELOP YOUR PERFECT PITCH: and remembering to start with the “right now.”
HOW TO DEVELOP YOUR CREDIBILITY WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO PIVOT INTO A NEW CAREER OR OPPORTUNITY.
JODI’S PROMPTS FOR FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO NEXT: What comes naturally/easily to you? What do you do where you don’t notice the time passing? What do you enjoy doing? In what areas do people ask you for advice?
WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE EPISODE?  Let me know! Use the contact link atSheSaid.SheSaidPodcast.com or message me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, Linked In, or Facebook. I’d love to hear from you! And, be sure to pick up a copy of Jodi’s terrific book “Great on the Job.” 
I’d also be grateful if you shared a review on Itunes. Reviews help others who are looking for content like this to find it. By leaving a review you don’t just help me, you help others as well. Have a great week!
 
TO LEARN MORE 
About Jodi Glickman 
Jodi’s Book “Great on the Job”
 
 

SHOW Notes 
EPISODE TITLE: How to manage stress in ways that boost YOUR vitality! 
BONUS EPISODE 205
GUEST: Dr. Samantha Boardman – author “Everyday Vitality: Turning Stress Into Strength”
Episode 205 [repackaged from Episode 167] 
We can’t be as influential, or have the impact we hope to have when we allow stress to overwhelm us. When not managed, it mushrooms and interferes with how we feel, how we relate to others, our problem-solving abilities, our creativity, and ultimately how INFLUENTIAL we can be. Yet, stress is all around us and is constant, especially these days. 
So what can we do?
Vitality isn’t a word we often think about when we think of how we manage or cope with stress, but learning to build vitality holds important benefits to living happier and healthier.  Turns out, the secret to tackling stress and building vitality may be less about looking inward, and more about looking outward and beyond ourselves.    
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:
Dr. Samantha Boardman is a clinical psychiatrist with a master’s degree in applied positive psychology. Her practice combines her medical training in psychiatry with her studies in the field of positive psychology. She helps clients and patients “find strength within stress,” and “wellness within illness.” She shares her straight-forward, practical, scientifically-backed philosophy and approach as the founder of PositivePerscription.com and in her terrific new book “Everyday Vitality: Turning Stress Into Strength.” She provides an empowering approach for understanding and managing stress, and living a happier, healthier life.  
KEY TOPICS:
CAREER PIVOT: Samantha recognized that what she learned in medical school wasn’t enough to effectively treat her patients. By embracing a field of study that is often discounted by traditional medicine, she broadened her perspective in a way that enables her to add more value to her patients and to see their problems differently. 
VITALITY: We talk about the connection between vitality and stress, and how to use the building blocks of vitality to combat stress. 
BE THE “UN YOU:” You may be thinking, “Wait, what?!” Everywhere I turn, I’m reminded to “be my authentic self.” Dr. Boardman cautions don’t let “being yourself” stand in the way of your personal growth. #GrowthMindset 
CONNECTION, CHALLENGING YOURSELF & CONTRIBUTING: These are the 3 C’s needed to build vitality, but they are also critical levers needed to building INFLUENCE. 
FOCUS YOUR GRATITUDE OUTWARD: Dr. Boardman suggests just being grateful, making gratitude lists, and posting #blessed #Grateful on social media is fine, but isn’t actually enough to build vitality. She suggests sharing more of your gratitude outwardly and directly with others. If you are grateful for someone, tell them, and tell them why. Don’t assume they already know how grateful you are. Even if they know, it’s always nice to hear. 
SET MENTAL CONTRAST or “WOOP” GOALS: Dr. Boardman describes a great exercise to close the “intention/action gap” through “mental contrasting.” One way to do this is by making a list of the words you would hope your child or colleague would use to describe you.  Next, make a list of the actual words they would use. Finally, make a list of the actions or steps you can take to close that gap between what you WISH FOR and WHAT IS. 
BEWARE “PRODUCTIVITY PORN” & “UPLIFT IMPOSTERS”: Dr. Boardman and I talk about “uplift imposters” and why too much focus on doing more, more, more might not be better, and how taking productivity taken to its extreme actually depletes us of vitality. 
STRESS IS PART OF LIFE: By finding ways that help us manage stress — and the emotion that often accompanies it, rather than avoiding the things that can cause it, we can better prepare ourselves to reframe, shift gears, move forward, and build more INFLUENCE.  

TITLE: How a simple organizing technique can give you more TIME
BONUS EPISODE 204 — This week’s BONUS Episode is repackaged from Episode 176. 
Studies show that “getting organized” sits in the top three of New Year’s resolutions right behind “losing weight” and “getting in shape.” Notwithstanding our collective commitment, it’s a difficult thing for many of us to conquer, and the mess and clutter is robbing us of our most finite resource: TIME. It also drains our energy, our focus, and our ability to execute on the things that are most important to us. Not to mention, it stands in the way of our ability to build and sustain INFLUENCE. 
This week’s guest has great advice and perspective to help you tidy up, regain time, build energy and focus and conquer all the rest of your resolutions!  
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:
Lisa Woodruff is the founder and CEO of Organize 365. She’s the author of four books — including her most recent “The Paper Solution.” She’s also the host of “Organize265 Podcast” that’s been downloaded more than 14 million times. That huge number speaks to the millions out there who struggle to make sense of their stuff, and all the emotional baggage that often comes with it when we try to sort, discard, file and recycle. 
KEY TOPICS:
MINDSET: Lisa and I talk about the importance of mindset, and how it impacts our ability to get our clutter under control. Since mindset is often a big part of our conversation on She Said/She Said Podcast, I know you’ll love this additional dimension. 
INVESTMENT IN YOU: Organization is an investment in yourself. Even small investments and limited progress helps you gain more time. 
SELF-TALK: Lisa talks about the importance of tackling overwhelming projects with a positive talk track in your head, and she shares a few mantras that can help shift the talk reel. When we are too hard on ourselves it makes the job imminently more difficult, and we’re more likely to give up before we finish, or just skip the job all together. 
OUR ORGANIZATION SYSTEMS HAVE TO EVOLVE ALONG WITH US: This was such an epiphany for me. As we evolve, change and grow, our organizational systems have to keep pace. That’s especially true as new people enter or leave our lives. Nothing in life is static, including our stuff and our paper. It all has to evolve with us on this incredible journey. 
BUILDING AND SUSTAINING INFLUENCE: Getting more control of our space and gaining more time can help us build more INFLUENCE in our lives. The time we gain can be used to accomplish all those amazing things we dream about, and it can give us the bandwidth to connect more fully and to be more present for those we love and care about. 
LISA’S FAVORITE MANTRA: “Progress over perfection”
Let me know what you thought of the episode! DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, Facebook or Twitter —  I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on itunes. Reviews help others who are looking for content like this to find it. So by leaving a review you don’t just help me, you help others as well!
LISA WOODRUFF:
About LISA and Organize 365 
Listen to Lisa’s Podcast:  
The Paper Solution
How ADHD Affects Home Organization: Understanding the Role of the 8 Key Executive Functions of the Mind
The Mindset of Organization: Take Back Your House One Phase at a Time
She Said/She Said Podcast Episode 176
 

Title: How to use story to build your brand, shape your influence, and improve your mindset! BONUS EPISODE 203
[THIS WEEK’S BONUS EPISODE IS REPACKAGED FROM EPISODE 166. ]
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Harnessing the power of storytelling can help you establish trust and connection with others, and, when done especially well, storytelling can also help you attract (and retain) your target audience, build support for a cause, win deals, and get you on sought after guest lists. It’s a skill— and it can be an important part of building your INFLUENCE! 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:
Kindra Hall is a professional storyteller, and a master at understanding and harnessing the power of stories that sell and captivate. Kindra started winning awards as a child when she wowed audiences with her ability to tell a story. She took that talent and turned it into a career which not only includes keynote speaking about storytelling and the power of story, but also online courses, a successful podcast, and two books. 
Kindra’s first book “Stories that Stick: How Storytelling Can Captivate Customers, Influence Audiences, and Transform Your Business” debuted at #2 on the WSJ bestseller list, and Forbes said it “may be the most valuable business book you will read.” Kindra’s second book “Choose your Story/Change your Life: Silence Your Inner Critic and Rewrite Your Life from the Inside Out” was published in January 2022. 
KEY TOPICS: 
MAKING STORY PART OF YOUR PITCH: Why “telling someone about you” and “telling someone a STORY about you” are two distinctly different things. We talk about both approaches. 
HOW STORY AND INFLUENCE TIE TOGETHER: We talk about the link between story and influence and why CONNECTION with your audience really matters for building TRUST, and how both factors ultimately help build INFLUENCE. 
THE STORIES WE TELL OURSELVES: Kindra gives us a sneak peak into her upcoming book, and why the most essential people we need to influence are OURSELVES! 
HOW A CHILDHOOD PASSION CAN HOLD THE KEY TO A FUTURE CAREER ENDEAVOR: Not everyone understood Kindra’s choice of storytelling as a career, but by tapping into a gift she had honed since childhood gave her confidence to face naysayers and to use her gift to provide a unique offering for others. 
MAKE STORIES STICK: Kindra shows us how everyday stories and details make our messages “stick” in our audience’s mind and memory. What’s so amazing about her message is that storytelling is available to each and every one of us. The stories she shares in this conversation so perfectly illustrate that point. 
While storytelling may come more naturally to some, understanding the power of story, and how to harness and fine tune our own storytelling skills, is an undeniably good investment YOU can make in YOU! 
Let me know what you thought of the episode.  Which stories and advice resonated most with you? I’d love to hear from you! Connect with me on Instagram @LauraCoxKaplan or via the contact link: She Said/She Said Podcast 
And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on Itunes. Reviews help others who are looking for content like this to find it. Have a great week!
ABOUT KINDRA HALL
Order Stories that Stick: How Storytelling Can Captivate Customers, Influence Audiences, and Transform Your Business
Pre-order Choose Your Story, Change Your Life: Silence Your Inner Critic and Rewrite Your Life from the Inside Out 
Episode 166 with Kindra Hall 
 

SHOW NOTES – EPISODE 202 [Bonus Episode]
TITLE: How to overcome fear and build risk tolerance needed for growth, Episode 202 [Bonus Episode]
GUEST: SUKHINDER SINGH CASSIDY
TOPIC: Risk taking is important for securing new opportunities, growing our confidence, learning new skills, and for overcoming fear, but how can we grow risk tolerance and overcome fear when it’s FEAR that often prevents us from taking that risk in the first place? 
To answer that question, I’m drawing on an episode recorded back in 2021 that I’ve repackaged for you while I’m on break for the next few weeks. It contains some of the most helpful advice on the topic of building risk tolerance from someone whose successful career as a tech entrepreneur has been a product of the same thoughtful approach she shares in this episode. I think you’ll love it! 
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST
Sukhinder Singh Cassidy and I sat down and recorded this conversation to promote the release of her book “Choose Possibility: Take Risks and Thrive (even when you fail).” She has been at the forefront of innovation in Silicon Valley for the past two decades— launching startups, leading the team that developed Google Maps, and overseeing numerous business transformations —  including most recently as CEO of STUB HUB. She not only practices what she preaches, but is sharing her thoughtful approach in ways that can help each of us build greater capacity for tackling risks, and the fear that can come with risk taking. 
KEY TOPICS IN EPISODE 202:   

Sukhinder shares her career journey and some of her earliest experiences with risk taking. 
Sukhinder and I talk about the importance of developing regular risk taking habits. Even small risks taken regularly help build momentum and confidence needed to tackle larger risks. 
Sukhinder shares what she calls “the universal risk taking equation” which includes understanding the difference between “fear of failure” and “fear of missing out” and how to leverage each.
We talk about why visualization is important and why it must include detailed strategies not just for visualizing success, but also (maybe even more importantly) for what you will do when you fall short of your goal or fail. 
We also talk about the connection between risk taking and confidence. 

 
INFLUENCE
While Sukhinder and I don’t specifically talk about the connection between influence and risk taking in this conversation, as I reflected on it, I love that there is a clear connection between this notion of activity seeking opportunities to learn, including from those experiences that didn’t turn out as we had originally hoped. Failures — or missing our mark — always provide some of the best learning opportunities, so long as our mindset is focused not on what we lost, but what we gained in the process and how we can use that knowledge going forward. 
 
HELPFUL LINKS: 
BOOK:  “Choose Possibility: Take Risks and Thrive (even when you fail)” by Sukhinder Singh Cassidy
Full conversation with Sukhinder in Episode 159: it also includes her perspective on her work to get more women on corporate boards and why she founded The Board List. 
I’D LOVE YOUR FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile and would love to hear your thoughts. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook. Or, use the contact link on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on iTunes or wherever you are listening to ...

EPISODE TITLE: How to harness your creative potential, and why it matters! Episode 201
GUEST: Aimee Mayo, songwriter/author
TOPIC: There is incredible value in learning how to tap into creativity no matter what your career goals or aspirations. In fact, creativity often provides that “secret sauce” that helps you differentiate yourself or your brand. It can also help you sell an idea, illustrate your value within an organization, and even package the services you can provide to others as you think about a career pivot or reinvention. 
Understanding and leveraging creativity can enable us to push through when a problem seems insurmountable, or can help us see a problem from a different vantage point, or maybe help us be more open to seeing solutions others missed.
 
HOW CREATIVITY RELATES TO INFLUENCE: We don’t always think about creativity related to building and sustaining influence, and yet when we think about the people who push through barriers, do things differently, and who are challenging conventional wisdom they are without a doubt tapping into some pretty creative “magic.” They are also building influence and having a major impact in the process.The ability to harness creativity can have a direct impact on our success, and on our ability to inspire and motivate others.
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: Aimee Mayo is a grammy-nominated songwriter and author. Her songs have spent 26 weeks in the #1 spot on the Billboard charts, and albums featuring her songs have sold more than 155 million units worldwide. She is known for writing hits for artists including: Taylor Swift, Tim Mcgraw, Lonestar, Kenny Chesney, Meghan Trainer, Adam Lambert, Carrie Underwood, Martina McBride, Billy Currington, and many more. Her song “Amazed,” recorded by Lonestar, is one of her most popular to date. Aimee is one of only a handful of female songwriters to receive both BMI’s Country Song of the Year and Songwriter of the Year awards, putting her in the rare company of legends like Dolly Parton, Loretta Lynn and Taylor Swift. Her book “Talking to the Sky” is currently being made into a movie of her life. 
KEY TOPICS: 
In this week’s conversation, you’ll hear:  
* What helped Aimee push through fear to enable her to share her personal story with the world.
* What she considers the secret to her success.
* Why she thinks about her painful childhood as “a gift.”
* Her perspective on competing with one’s previous success.
* What she learned from the most successful female artists about what they do differently. 
* You’ll also hear a lot in this week’s conversation about MINDSET and some other factors that help us create the conditions in which creativity and inspiration are more likely to strike. 
DIFFICULT TOPICS: Aimee and I reference a number of difficult topics in this episode including: suicide, mental illness, and abuse. While we do not go into significant detail, these can be incredibly painful topics to hear about and to discuss. I hope — and I know Aimee would agree– that sharing her story will provide both hope and inspiration to anyone who may be struggling, and that Aimee’s perspective on creativity and on finding inspiration will give you much to help inspire your own story. 
IT’S TIME FOR A RECHARGE!  Starting next week,  I’ll be taking a few weeks off this summer to recharge and think about the past 200 episodes and your incredible feedback! Please send me more thoughts, and any additional feedback you think would be helpful. I’d really love to hear from you!
In the meantime, I’ll be sharing some additional thoughts on the importance of a recharge, and some great tools and things I do to inspire my own creativity. You can follow along on my Instagram. Come join me there @LauraCoxKaplan...

TITLE: Should your passion drive your pocketbook, or pocketbook drive your passion? Episode 200
Guest: Bobbi Rebell [part 2 of 2]
TOPIC: You’ve no doubt heard or even received the advice “just follow your passion.” While finding and understanding what you’re good at, and leaning into areas that ignite your creative passions is undeniably good advice, it’s also advice that might not be financially practical at every phase in your life. Part two of my conversation with financial planner, author, and business journalist Bobbi Rebell opens with this topic. 
Too often, conversations about money and personal finance are missing from career development conversations despite the undeniable link that exists for most of us. Too much focus on money could suck the life blood from your dreams; Too little, might prevent you from building the resources needed to pursue that dream in the first place. Like so many things, there’s a balance to be struck. I love that this week’s conversation is grounded in these practical realiities, and in some honest advice about how investing in your career, even when it may mean a lower salary at different stages can help you build important “experience capital” for later — something that was a big part of my own early career experiences. 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:  Bobbi Rebell is a certified financial planner, author and business journalist. She joins me for part two of our two-part conversation. More about Bobbi. 
 
FULL SHOW NOTES AND TRANSCRIPTS AVAILABLE SheSaidSheSaidPodcast.Com 
 
KEY THEMES IN PART 2: 

How to separate your passion from your income source — when you need to. 
What you can learn from Bobbi’s biggest financial mistake, which also relates to the people with whom you surround yourself. 
The questions you should ask of your future spouse or partner before you say “I do:”  Love can make everything seem rosey, but skipping questions related to money and personal finance can be a big mistake and get your new marriage or partnership off on the wrong financial footing.
How personal finance can impact our self-esteem and confidence. 
Why the people around you can have an outsized impact on your financial future 
How Bobbi thinks about influence. 

 
LINKS AND BOOKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 200: 
Part one of my conversation with Bobbi Rebell – she said/she said podcast Episode 199 
“Launcing Financial Grownups: Live Your Richest Life by Helping Your (Almost) Adult Kids Become Everyday Money Smart” by Bobbi Rebell 
“How to Be a Financial Grownup: Proven Advice from High Achievers on How to Live Your Dreams and Have Financial Freedom” by Bobbi Rebell 
Money Tips for Financial Grownups Podcast with Bobbi Rebell
Grownup Gear – enter code: GrownUP for 15% off
“Unfollow Your Passion” by Terri Trespicio
“Own It: The Power of Women at Work” by Sally Krawcheck
Queen Bees and Wannabees: Helping Your Daughter ...

SHOW NOTES EPISODE 199
EPISODE TITLE: How investing in your kids’ financial literacy supports your own financial future & career options [Part 1 of 2]
GUEST: Bobbi Rebell
TOPIC: 
There’s a lot more to making a career shift or pivot than just figuring out what you want to do next. For most of us, one particularly important consideration is: MONEY. We have to ask ourselves: “Will I have enough if I decide to take a career break,” or maybe, “will I have enough to fund a passion project that might not — at least initially — yield the same financial rewards and revenue as my previous career?”
That financial picture can be further complicated as other people enter or leave our lives, including when adult (or almost adult) kids are dependent for longer. Those decisions don’t just impact the potential life and career choices for the kids, but also for the parents. 
HOW THIS TOPIC RELATES TO INFLUENCE: 
Sometimes the greatest opportunity to have real influence is under our own roof. By teaching basic personal finance you’re not only helping your kids become more money savvy and gain financial independence, you’re also protecting and investing in your own future, something this week’s guest in an expert on and talks about in this conversation. 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST: 
Bobbi Rebell is a certified financial planner, author and business journalist. She shares her perspective on navigating career, parenting, and money choices and how she’s using her skills to help us make smarter, more thoughtful money choices that can impact us long into the future.
One quick caveat, even if you are not a parent, I think you’ll love Bobbi’s advice and career lessons. 
KEY THEMES IN PART 1: 
* How the current economic environment and job market are different from the one past generations have entered, and why that matters.
* How and why the “boomerang effect” has created a delay into adulthood for some, and an unanticipated financial burden for many others. 
* Why helping your adult children become financially  independent (and literate) improves not only their financial future (and yours), but also their confidence
* How Bobbi considered some stages in her career, especially when she become a mom, to be an investment in her future earning or “placeholder job” and why it’s important to look at the big picture often beyond just salary and childcare
* How Bobbi laid the financial groundwork for her career pivots
* Bobbi’s shares her tips for the best way to ask someone for advice
* Why you should always ask yourself: “What sets you apart from other people?” And “What do you offer that no one else does?” And how those questions laid the groundwork for Bobbi’s first book.
KEY TOPICS FOR NEXT WEEK’S EPISODE 200 [PART 2 OF MY CONVERSATION WITH BOBBI REBELL]:
* We’ll talk about why pursuing your passion isn’t necessarily the same as pursuing your income. 
* What you can learn from something Bobbi considers her biggest financial mistake. 
* Why the people around you can have an outsized impact on your financial future 
* How Bobbi thinks about influence. 
Episode Links and Books: 
“Launcing Financial Grownups: Live Your Richest Life by Helping Your (Almost) Adult Kids Become Everyday Money Smart” by Bobbi Rebell 
“How to Be a Financial Grownup: Proven Advice from High Achievers on How to Live Your Dreams and Have Financial Freedom” by Bobbi Rebell 
Susan McPherson, Episode 191
Money Tips for Financial Grownups Podcast 

SHOW NOTES EPISODE 198
TITLE: How to level-set priorities in your life and career!
GUEST: FRAN HAUSER [part 2 of 2]
TOPIC:
Ever have trouble carving out time to strategize about your life, career, or a pivot you’re contemplating? Or maybe, once you do carve out the time, you aren’t sure how to structure that time so that you get the biggest return on your investment? What questions should you ask yourself? How much time should you spend? How often should you do this? 
Building in time for reflection and making it a regular habit or practice, is key to not only managing yourself, but to making sure that where you are spending your time is helping you move closer to the goals and/or the priorities that are most important to you. We don’t always think about reflection and time management as elements needed to build influence, and yet, without those practices in place, it’s really difficult to navigate all the competing demands on your time so that you can truly prioritize what’s most important while also helping you build and sustain influence in the process. 
This week, episode 198 is part two of a two-part conversation with startup investor, adviser, best-selling author (and renowned nice girl) Fran Hauser. If you missed part one, be sure and check it out here: Episode 197
 
About Fran: 
Fran Hauser is a startup investor and adviser who is focused on leveling the playing field for women by sharing all that she’s learned in her incredibly varied career. A long-time media executive, Fran champions the power of content in shaping culture and educating the public. She’s the author of “The Myth of the Nice Girl: Achieving a Career You Love Without Becoming a Person You Hate.” The book has been translated into six languages and was named “Best Business Book of the Year in 2018” by Audible. Fran’s new book: Embrace the Work, Love Your Career” is a workbook for women seeking more joy and fulfillment in their career. 
Fran started her career in public accounting at PwC, moved into finance at Coca Cola, then to Movie Phone, onto AOL/Time Warner, and then into a series of high profile media positions at People, InStyle, Entertainment Weekly. At the peak of her corporate media career, she opted to strike out on her own to coach, mentor and invest in countless female founded companies (you’ve met a few of those founders on this podcast!) You can find Fran’s full bio here. 
 
KEY TOPICS FOR EPISODE 198 with Fran Hauser:   

How Fran’s latest book:  “Embrace the Work, Love Your Career” can help you level-set your life and career goals
Why focusing on four key areas can have an outsized impact on your career journey
Fran’s perspective on setting boundaries, while still adhering to her core value: always be nice
How and why mindfulness and reflection make a difference in your career journey 
How an executive coach can help you
Fran’s four-square model for life and career alignment 
How to stop saying “yes” when you really need to say “no” 
Fran’s advice for developing a pitch that differentiates your brand or your business 

 
LINKS MENTIONED: 
“Myth of the Nice Girl: Achieving a Career You Love Without Becoming a Person You Hate” by Fran Hauser
“Embrace the Work, Love Your Career” by Fran Hauser
Episode 197: Part one with Fran Hauser
 
FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile, and I would love to hear your thoughts.

Title: How “nice” can be a differentiating skill for career success!
SHOW NOTES EPISODE 197 [part 1 of 2]
GUEST: FRAN HAUSER, author, startup investor and adviser
TOPIC: 
Have you ever had someone tell you “you’re just too nice,” and they didn’t mean it as a compliment? Or maybe you worry that you’ve tried to overcompensate at times for the fact that you actually are incredibly nice, but if you let that show, you won’t be taken seriously at work or with clients? 
This topic has always been a bigger challenge for women. Getting the balance right between going the extra mile to care about colleagues and to show some vulnerability v. being a pushover can be challenging to navigate, especially if you struggle with “people pleasing.” By the way, “people pleasing” should not be confused with “nice” or adding real value at work. They are not the same thing. This week’s guest is the perfect person to help us break all of this down, while sharing what she’s learned over her distinguished career by being legitimate nice girl. The power of nice can indeed be a differentiating, timeless quality and one that has a great deal to do with building and sustaining influence in our lives and careers. 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:  
Fran Hauser is a startup investor and adviser who is focused on leveling the playing field for women by sharing all that she’s learned in her incredibly varied career. A long-time media executive, Fran champions the power of content in shaping culture and educating the public. She’s the author of “The Myth of the Nice Girl: Achieving a Career You Love Without Becoming a Person You Hate” which has been translated into six languages and was named “Best Business Book of the Year in 2018” by Audible. Her new book: Embrace the Work, Love Your Career” is a workbook for women seeking more joy and fulfillment in their career. 
Fran has invested in more than 30 female-founded companies across CFG, media, publishing and wellness. She started in public accounting at PwC, moved into finance at Coca Cola, then to Movie Phone, AOL/Time Warner, and into a series of high profile media positions at People, InStyle, Entertainment Weekly. At the peak of her corporate media career, she opted to strike out on her own to coach, mentor and invest in female founded companies (you’ve met a few of them on this podcast!)  
 
KEY THEMES FROM THE CONVERSATION IN PART 1: 

* How nice has been a timeless and differentiating career skill for Fran
* What we really mean by ” nice” 
* The magic of gratitude 
* How to lay the groundwork for your career pivots, and set yourself up for future success
* How to make the career leaps that are right for YOU, even when others around you are questioning your decision
* Where Fran’s learning agility comes from
* How Fran’s parents’ immigrant story shaped her view of risk taking
* How and why to push back against what others think you should do when your gut says, “you need to do something else”

 
We’ll pick up Part 2 of the conversation with Fran NEXT WEEK in Episode 198! 
KEY TOPICS FOR EPISODE 198 with Fran Hauser:   

* How Fran’s latest book: “Embrace the Work, Love Your Career” can help you level-set your career and goals
* Why a focus on four key areas can have an outsized impact on your career
* How to set boundaries
* The power of mindfulness and reflection
* How an executive coach can help you
* Fran’s four square model for life and career alignment
* Saying “yes” when you really want to say “no”
* A key piece of advice for developing a differentiating pitch for yourself and. your business

 
EPISODE LINKS AND BOOKS: 
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TITLE: Looking to reinvent or pivot? Beware these common traps!  Part 2 of 2
Episode 196
 
Episode Topic:
It’s difficult to reinvent yourself even when you know you need to make a pivot or change. Change, afterall, is incredibly difficult. That’s why there are shelves and shelves and shelves of books on the topic, and an endless array of podcasts designed to help you master the art of change. 
Fact is, we weren’t wired for it. But, embracing it, leaning into it, and doing so with a mindset that’s focused on what we can learn and how we can grow is literally the key to living our fullest while finding and maximizing our God-given gifts and talents while also building some new ones! 
I know, friend, it is easier said than done! But, in part 2 of this two part conversation on reinvention, my guests demystify a few aspects of personal reinvention and career pivots, and give you lots to think about while also giving you a few new tools to add to your personal tool kit! 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUESTS:
Dana Hilmer and Wendy Perrotti are the co-founders of Camp Reinvention, a global company offering transformational programs, retreats, and community for women who are creating their next act. 
Wendy and Dana bring more than 30 years of coaching and training experience to Camp Reinvention and have been featured on hundreds of podcasts, television and radio shows. As a special treat for YOU, they are sharing their e-book “Freedom From What Keeps You Stuck,” for FREE! It’s terrific, and we discuss it in this two part conversation in Episodes 195 and 196. If you missed Episode 195, be sure to go back and listen.
You can also join them in their free “Happy After 50” Facebook group. 
 
RECAP OF PART 1: KEY TOPICS IN EPISODE 195:
HOW TO START: You know you need to pivot or maybe reinvent, but how? We talk about how to do that with Wendy and Dana’s 4-part Camp Reinvention process. 
IDENTIFYING YOUR SKILL SET
WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM WENDY AND DANA’S OWN CAREER REINVENTION STORIES
WHY YOU NEED TO START BEFORE YOU THINK YOU ARE READY
WHY CHANGE IS NOT ONLY DIFFICULT FOR THE PERSON CHANGING, BUT FOR EVERYONE IN HER NETWORK: and how to navigate those challenges. 
AN IMPORTANT TOOL FOR MAKING FRIENDS WITH THE VOICE INSIDE YOUR HEAD
 
KEY TOPICS IN EPISODE 196/PART 2 OF THIS CONVERSATION:
THE DOING TRAP: any why “busy” is not the same as making progress
A PRODUCTIVITY TOOL THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE: getting clear on WHY
WHY MOMENTUM MATTERS
REDEFINING SUCCESS: and the relationship between “success” and “why”
THE “SHOULD-ING” TRAP
 
This week, I tried something new and would love your feedback. Since the conversation with Wendy and Dan ran a bit long, I split it into two episodes 195 and 196 – both of which are available here or wherever you listen to podcasts. I’m hoping this approach will give you a little break to reflect on part one before diving into part two. But most of all, I would love to know what YOU think. So let me know. 
My biggest goal, as always, is to bring you great conversation and perspective that serves your interests, is helpful, meets you right where you are, and is a good investment of your time. So please be sure to send me some feedback — on this episode, this trial format, or anything else you think would be beneficial for me to hear to help me create even better content for YOU! I’d really appreciate it.

TITLE: Want to reinvent or pivot, but not sure where to begin? [Part 1 of 2] Episode 195
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
It’s difficult to reinvent yourself even when you know you need to make a pivot or change. Change, afterall, is incredibly difficult. That’s why there are shelves and shelves and shelves of books on the topic, and an endless array of podcasts designed to help you master the art of change. 
Fact is, we weren’t wired for it. But, embracing it, leaning into it, and doing so with a mindset that’s focused on what we can learn and how we can grow is literally the key to living your fullest while finding and maximizing your God-given gifts and talents while also building some new ones! 
I know, friend, it is easier said than done! But, today’s guests will demystify a few aspects of personal reinvention and career pivots, and give you lots to think about while also giving you a few new tools to add to your personal tool kit! 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUESTS:
Dana Hilmer and Wendy Perrotti are the co-founders of Camp Reinvention, a global company offering transformational programs, retreats, and community for women who are creating their next act. 
Wendy and Dana bring more than 30 years of coaching and training experience to Camp Reinvention and have been featured on hundreds of podcasts, television and radio shows. As a special treat for YOU, they are sharing their e-book “Freedom From What Keeps You Stuck,” for FREE! It’s terrific, and we discuss it in this two part conversation in Episodes 195 and 196. 
You can also join them in their free “Happy After 50” Facebook group. 
 
KEY TOPICS IN EPISODE 195:
HOW TO START: You know you need to pivot or maybe reinvent, but how? We talk about how to do that with Wendy and Dana’s 4-part Camp Reinvention process. 
IDENTIFYING YOUR SKILL SET
WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM WENDY AND DANA’S OWN CAREER REINVENTION STORIES
WHY YOU NEED TO START BEFORE YOU THINK YOU ARE READY
WHY CHANGE IS NOT ONLY DIFFICULT FOR THE PERSON CHANGING, BUT FOR EVERYONE IN HER NETWORK: and how to navigate those challenges. 
AN IMPORTANT TOOL FOR MAKING FRIENDS WITH THE VOICE INSIDE YOUR HEAD
This week, I’m trying something new and would love your feedback. Since the conversation with Wendy and Dan ran a bit long, I split it into two episodes 195 and 196, which will post a couple of days after. I’m hoping this approach will give you a little break to reflect on part one before diving into part two. But most of all, I would love to know what YOU think. So let me know. 
My biggest goal, as always, is to bring you great conversation and perspective that serves your interests, is helpful, hopefully meets you right where you are, and is a good investment of your time. So be sure to send me some feedback — on this episode, this trial format, or anything else you think would be beneficial for me to hear to help me create even better content for YOU! I’d really appreciate it. 
Episode 195 is part one of a two part conversation. Part 2 will be released later this week. 
 
EPISODE LINKS: 
Camp Reinvention
Use this link
Contact Dana & Wendy: hello@campreinvention.com 
Happy After 50 Facebook Group
Freedom From What Keeps You Stuck, free e-book for listeners of She Said/She Said Podcast!
 
FEEDBACK: I hope you found this investment of your time worthwhile and would love to hear your thoughts. DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook. Or, use the contact link on shesaidshesaidpodcast.com — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous,

TITLE: How to build learning agility, and why it matters, Episode 194
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
Developing a capacity for lifelong learning can lead to increased opportunities, not to mention can help you build and sustain greater influence! 
This week, I break down what lifelong learning looks like, the brain science behind it, and why it matters so much (including to potential employers and clients). I also share how you can develop more of it through some easy, daily habits.  
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:
I’m solo this week! 
 
KEY TOPICS:
“LEARNING AGILITY:” What is that? And why does Accenture CEO Julie Sweet put it at the top of her list of skills she’s looking for in new hires? 
HOW TO CREATE DAILY PRACTICES THAT SPARK CURIOSITY AND SUPPORT LEARNING AGILITY: I share 10 easy ways that work for me, but would love to hear any tips that you use as well.
HOW TO BOOST THE VALUE FROM INFORMATION YOUR ALREADY REGULARLY CONSUME
THE ROLE OF FAILURE: and how to ensure that its impact is ultimately useful  and value-added, and (potentially) positive
HOW A GROWTH MINDSET SUPPORTS GREATER LEARNING AGILITY
WHY YOU SHOULD TALK ABOUT A PAST FAILURES IN A JOB INTERVIEW
HOW LEARNING AGILITY AND CURIOSITY HELP YOU BUILD AND SUSTAIN INFLUENCE!
 
EPISODE LINKS: 
Harvard Business Review: Julie Sweet, CEO Accenture, “Most Important Skills Job Seekers Need”
Morgan Hutchinson, BURU Founder, Episode 193 on learning from failure
“Mindset” by Professor Carol Dweck
 
EPISODE SPONSOR: OSSA  
Episode 194 is supported by OSSA. To become an investor and support women podcasters through OSSA, check out: StartEngine.com/OSSA
Also, be sure to check out my earlier conversation with OSSA founder Marla Isackson: Marla Isackson, CEO, OSSA, Episode 148
 
FEEDBACK: I hope you found this episode and this investment of your time worthwhile and would love to hear your thoughts, including any additional ways that you build learning into your day and week.  DM me @lauraCoxKaplan on Instagram, LinkedIn, or Facebook — I’d love to hear from you! And, if you are feeling generous, please be sure to leave a review on Itunes or wherever you are listening to she said/she said podcast. 

EPISODE: 193
TITLE: Why TRUST is essential for building connection with your customer, and the impact it has on your INFLUENCE!
TO POST: SUNDAY, MAY 8, 2022
GUEST: Morgan Hutchinson, founder, Shop BURU
 
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:
This week’s conversation gives us another great dimension related to both INFLUENCE AND BRAND, and specifically the importance of TRUST. 
One of the most important components for building a real connection and relationship with your customer requires that you establish trust — a fact that’s also true for building and sustaining influence. That means: doing what we say we’ll do, being honest, being who we really are, standing by our products, and doing our best to do the right thing where others — especially those we want to build some type of relationship with — are concerned. When we follow these guidelines (that are reinforced so beautifully in today’s conversation) we also increase exponentially the opportunity for building both trust and real influence with our intended client or customer, our employees, our partner or spouse, our children, and our neighbors. 
 
THIS WEEK’S GUEST:
Today, for the final episode in our collaboration series with The Southern Coterie, I’m joined by Morgan Hutchinson. Morgan is the founder and chief designer of BURU. You’ll find her on Instagram @ShopBuru . BURU is a women’s clothing line made primarily in her factory in Los Angeles, CA. Together with her cofounder, business and life partner — her husband Brett — they have built a unique and innovative brand.   
As a mother of three young kids, Morgan’s path into motherhood actually provided the initial inspiration for the BURU brand. In fact, breastfeeding — specifically — inspired the initial designs, but she’s continued to evolve the brand as her life and motherhood journey have evolved. 
I often share some of my own favorite Buru pieces on my Instagram @lauracoxkaplan — so be sure to follow along! 
Morgan focuses on establishing a high level of trust with her customer. You see that in her marketing efforts, especially on Instagram and on her blog, and you’ll feel that in today’s conversation. There’s also a level of vulnerability she shares with her customer and that she shares with me and ultimately with you as you listen.  
 
KEY TOPICS IN THE CONVERSATION:
TRUST: Morgan and I talk about what creating trust with your customer (or potential client) looks like. 
 
ENTREPRENEURSHIP JOURNEY: How her earlier experience starting “Passport Panties” informed how she and her husband Brett created BURU.  
 
PARTNERSHIP: We talk about why Morgan and Brett make good partners and what each brings to the table. 
 
FUNDING YOUR BUSINESS: We talk about why the choice she and Brett made to bootstrap BURU has been an important factor for balancing family, work and life. This is a really fascinating part of the conversation, and if you are trying to build a product-based business that can be subject to tricky supply chain issues, you won’t want to miss this!
 
MENTAL HEALTH: One of the most important elements of today’s conversation focuses on mental health, and Morgan’s struggle with bipolar disorder. 
May is Mental Health Awareness Month. It’s an important time to pause and think about how we can increase our collective understanding of mental health and mental illness. 
Morgan is incredibly candid in our conversation and it further underscores how she builds trust with her customer. She shares her story to not only give others who are struggling hope, but also to help change the stigma associated with mental illness.  I’m grateful that Morgan opened up about her struggles today. If you or someone you love or care about is stru...