The New Abnormal

Donald Trump gave a lengthy interview this week for a cover story in Time Magazine—and it sure scared The New Abnormal co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy. Then, Rolling Stone politics reporter Nikki McCann Ramirez joins the program to discuss Trump’s terrifying rhetoric. Plus! Brothers and investigative reporters Brody Mullins and Luke Mullins stop by The New Abnormal to discuss their new book, “The Wolves of K Street: The Secret History of How Big Money Took Over Big Government.”

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This week on The New Abnormal, co hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie discuss the overblown response to pro Palestine protests on college campuses. Plus! The Nation's justice correspondent, Elie Mystal, joins the show to talk about the many problems with the U.S. Supreme Court. Then, Democratic candidate for Congress in Florida's 13th congressional district, Whitney Fox, shares why she’s joining the fight.

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In what can only be described as a race to the bottom, right-wing comedian Alex Stein appears obsessed with talking to the president’s daughter-in-law about sodomy. Plus! Danielle Moodie talks to Brazilian journalistAdriana Carranca on her new bookSoul by Soul: The Evangelical Mission to Spread the Gospel to Muslims.

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The Daily Beast’s political reporter Jake Lahut tells The New Abnormal’s co-host Danielle Moodie that some Republicans were hopeful that the former president would still be able to host events like fundraisers while his trial takes place but they have had to go back to the drawing board to work out how he can connect with voters in key battleground states. Plus! Mike Masnick, the founder and editor of Techdirt and CEO of The Copia Institute, talks to The New Abnormal about the newly signed law that could see TikTok banned in the United States.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie take a deep dive into the first week of Trump’s historic trial in New York. Plus! Former White House Social Secretary Deesha Dyer is here to talk about her new book and reflect on her time in the West Wing. Then, Mother Jones’ national voting rights correspondent, Ari Berman, joins the show to discuss his new book—and how the 1787 Constitutional Convention still affects us today.

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The New Abnormal team give their picks for the most fashionable former president and first lady—and it is not Donald and Melania Trump. Plus! Mexican historian Ana Raquel Minian talks to Andy Levy about her new book In the Shadow of Liberty: The Invisible History of Immigrant Detention in the United States.

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The New Abnormal co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy have some advice for the judge handling former President Donald Trump’s New York City hush-money trial: Treat it exactly the same as a high-profile mob case. Then, a conversation with Medhi Hasan about his new media venture, Zeteo, which launched on Monday. Plus! Jonathan V. Last, an editor at The Bulwark, joins the program to talk about his recent presidential rankings.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Danielle Moodie talks to Andrea Miller, the founding board member of the Center for Common Ground, about the importance of the black vote in the South for Democrats in this election. Plus! The Washington Post tech reporter Drew Harwell gives us the details on the people still investing in Trump Media & Technology Group despite its rapidly plummeting stock price.

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For all ofDonald Trump’s incessant fear-mongering aboutmigrants fueling crime in the United States, he has yet to ask one very important question: What is driving the violence that is making so many on the other side of the border desperate to flee in the first place? That’s the questionThe New Abnormalteam posed to Ieva Jusionyte, author ofExit Wounds: How America's Guns Fuel Violence across the Border,on this Sunday’s episode—and his answermight not sit well withteam MAGA.

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This week, The New Abnormal

introduces you to a relatively new face in the pantheon of Trumpworld toadies:

Steven Cheung, Trump’s principal spokesperson and de facto enforcer. Plus, a conversation with New Republic staff writer Melissa Gira Grant about a largely forgotten 1873 law, called the Comstock Act, that could be used to outlaw virtually all abortions across America. 

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy discuss why we should take Donald Trump’s latest statement on abortion with a grain of salt. Plus! Deputy Director of the ACLU Immigrants Rights Project Cody Wofsy fills us in on an immigration law in Texas that even those supporting it have said may have gone too far. Then, journalist Jeb Lund is here to talk about his recent piece covering Florida’s “War on Woke.”

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The New Abnormal team has picked who they believe Donald Trump will select as his running mate. Plus! Andy Levy talks to CBS News correspondent Jonathan Vigliotti about his new book Before It's Gone: Stories From the Front Lines of Climate Change in Small-Town America.

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On this week's episode, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy don’t see any major publications or politicians taking Trump’s threats of retaliation seriously. Then, Mark Joseph Stern, a senior writer at Slate Magazine, joins the program to discuss an upcoming abortion ballot referendum in Florida—and the “giant threat” lurking behind it. Plus! A conversation with Brian Beutler, the author of the Substack “Off Message,” on Democrats’ messaging issues as the 2024 race inches closer to the finish line.

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This week on The New Abnormal, University of Louisville Associate Professor in the Departments of Women's, Gender & Sexuality Studies and Pan-African Studies Dr. Kaila Story joins us to talk about the new acronym conservatives are flinging about, and why it’s taken flight. Plus! Editor of The National Interest, Jacob Heilbrunn, joins us to talk about his new book, “America Last: The Right’s Century-Long Romance with Foreign Dictators.”

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From the site where George Floyd was killed to places where Black people were lynched, “Ghosts of Segregation” illustrates a history of racism in the U.S. that can’t be ignored.

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The New Yorker’s Adam Gopnik joins The New Abnormal to talk about his new essay on how Hitler was able to take control of Germany and what’s at stake in the coming U.S. election.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie discuss Chudd Todd’s searing criticism of NBC. Then, Sarah Kate Ellis, the president and CEO of GLAAD, joins us to talk about her organization’s efforts to counter the anti-LGBTQ+ messaging many right-wing politicians have leaned into. Plus! The former editor at the Chicago Tribune and The Chicago Sun-Times, Mark Jacob, will tell us all about a piece he recently wrote about how journalists in the media in general seem bored covering the upcoming election.

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Matt Gertz from Media Matters for America tells The New Abnormal that Fox News’ handling of its exclusive Mike Pence story shows how it's become a “Trumpian propaganda outlet.”

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“The Washington Post” reporter Devlin Barrett joins The New Abnormal to discuss what happens next in the former president’s contentious classified documents case. Plus, a conversation with Cornell Belcher, the founder of Brilliant Corners Research & Strategies, about all the reasons to ignore recent polling which shows Black and Hispanic voters may be moving to the right.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodiediscuss a recent interview in which Donald Trump discusses cutting social security. Then, Justin Baragona, senior media reporter for The Daily Beast, spills the tea on a weekend full of Trump mishaps. Plus! Shannon Vavra, national security reporter for The Daily Beast, explains both the laughable and alarming world of Russian disinformation.

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Donald Trump’s unfounded new claim that Hillary Clinton used acid to delete her emails shows the former president doesn’t quite grasp how the BleachBit software program works. Plus! Tom Schaller and Paul Waldman join The New Abnormal to talk about their New York Times best-selling book, White Rural Rage: The Threat to American Democracy.

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NewsNation contributor Kurt Bardella joins The New Abnormal to discuss the state of the 2024 presidential election—and the complete failure of American journalism to adapt to Republicans’ strategy of spewing falsehoods. Plus, a conversation with Josh Kovensky, an investigative reporter at Talking Points Memo, about the Society for American Civic Renewal—a men’s only secret society of prominent far-right Christians.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie discuss Donald Trump’s Jimmy Kimmel Oscars diss. Then, Bill Clinton's Secretary of Labor and substacker Robert Reich is here to talk about the State of the Union, economic populism and the rise of Trumpism. Plus! Host of the Undistracted podcast, Brittany Packnett Cunningham, tells us more about Senator Katie Britt's rebuttal to Joe Biden’s State of the Union address.

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The New Abnormal breaks down Sen. Katie Britt’s disastrous State of the Union reply and why she should have spoken to Bobby Jindal and Blake Masters before agreeing to do it. Plus! CNN’s Chief National Security Analyst Jim Sciutto joins Andy Levy to talk about his new book The Return of Great Powers: Russia, China, and the Next World War, which is out on March 12.

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MSNBC legal analyst Glenn Kirschner tells The New Abnormal that the former president could soon see his assets seized. Plus! Andy Levy speaks with Steven Monacelli, the Texas Observer’s Special Investigative Correspondent, about a new social network built on a vision of Christian supremacy in America that’s gaining traction with GOP politicians.

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Jose Pagliery, a political investigations reporter at The Daily Beast, joins the program to discuss Trump’s jam-packed court calendar. Plus, a conversation with journalist and author Radley Balko about the sinister attempt to “retcon” the death of George Floyd and exonerate the cop who killed him, Derek Chauvin.

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Journalist Hamilton Nolan tells The New Abnormal why declining union membership has strengthened the Republican Party.

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First on this week’s episode of The New Abnormal, a conversation with civil rights leader Bishop William Barber about the Poor People’s Campaign and the urgent need to craft public policy to correct the root causes of poverty. Plus! CNN commentator and New York Daily News columnist S.E. Cupp joins the program to discuss her thesis that the Republican Party has gone from being the champion of small government to the avatar of no government.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie discuss the positive news of Trump’s South Carolina presidential primary win. Then, Monica Simpson, executive director of Team Sister Song, joins the show to discuss the fight for reproductive rights in America. Plus! Chris Geidner points to the three biggest stories of the week, and how they are directly related to Supreme Court Justice Sam Alito.

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The New Abnormal breaks down the latest controversial idea from the Turning Point CEO. Plus! Danielle Moodie talks to Barbara Collura, the president and CEO of Resolve: The National Infertility Association, about the Alabama Supreme Court’s decision to give embryos “personhood” and ban IVF in the state.

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A recent ruling by the Alabama Supreme Court basically halted IVF treatments—and a new bill currently making the rounds in Oklahoma may be even worse, The New Abnormal hosts argue. Plus, chats with former GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger about the current state of the Republican Party and Gillian Branstetter of the ACLU’s Women’s Rights Project and LGBTQ & HIV Project about the tragic death of a non-binary high school student in Oklahoma.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie discuss why the $364 million fine in the fraud suit against Donald Trump is not enough. Then, political scientist Dr. Christina Greer joins the show to discuss the differences between Democratic and Republican messaging—and what President Biden needs to do to not fall behind. We then talk to The Daily Beast political reporter, Riley Rogerson, about the problems with GOPs campaign talking points.

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Brandon Wolf, national press secretary of the Human Rights Campaign, tells The New Abnormal that MAGA Republicans are making LGBTQ students political pawns.

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Did Trump and his team ever really believe the 2020 election was stolen? That’s the wrong question to ask, Talking Points Memo reporter Josh Kovensky says on The New Abnormal. Plus, an interview with Dell Cameron, an investigative reporter for Wired magazine, about the recent Congressional wrangling over proposed changes to Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

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The Daily Beast political reporter Jake Lahut joins this week’s The New Abnormal podcast to discuss Nikki Haley’s dwindling shot at the 2024 Republican nomination. Plus! Media Matters senior fellow Matt Gertz joins the podcast to discuss Special Counsel Robert Hur’s incendiary attacks on President Joe Biden’s memory.

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The Guardian Angels have been meting out vigilante justice on New York City streets since 1979. Last week the red-bereted crime fightersappeared on Fox News when their leader, Curtis Sliwa, a recent GOP mayoral candidate, was interviewed by Sean Hannity about the “migrant crisis” in New York. While the interview was in progress, the Angels violently detained a man in Times Square that Sliwa told Hannity was a migrant shoplifter. Later Levy talks to Laurie Kilmartin, a stand-up comedian who wrote for Conan O'Brien for 11 years, has written two books, and now has a new comedy special Cis Woke Grief Slut available for purchase online.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie discuss the horrifying Supreme Court hearing today that weighed whether Donald Trump will be allowed on the ballot in Colorado. Then, Jay Willis, the editor-in-chief of Balls & Strikes, joins us to weigh in on the case. Plus! Katherine Stewart, author of “The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism,” talks to us about how the role faith is playing in the 2024 election.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie discuss the Senate’s proposed immigration border bill that has sparked widespread criticism from Republicans. Then, Where's Your Ed At newsletter writer Ed Zitron stops by to talk to us about Elon Musk's latest tantrum. Plus! Jessica Garrison and Ken Besinger, the host of true crime podcast, Chameleon: the Michigan Plot, gives us the inside scoop on the attempted kidnapping of Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and all the strange details surrounding it.

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Donald Trump keeps using his relation to a famed MIT professor as proof of his intelligence. But as The New Abnormal team points out—smart people often have dumb relatives. Plus! Danielle Moodie has a thought provoking chat with DEI expert Denise Hamiltonon her new book Indivisible: How to Forge Our Differences into a Stronger Future.

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This week on The New Abnormal, Samuel Dickman, the medical director at Planned Parenthood Montana, joins us to unpack a jarring new study showing the dramatic increase in pregnancies related to rape after the banning of Roe v Wade. Plus! Author Andrew C. McKevitt talks about his new book, “Gun Country: Gun Capitalism, Culture, and Control in Cold War America.”

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy discuss the week of horror that could flip the game for Donald Trump. Then, Rolling Stonereporter and former The Daily Beast journalist Adam Rawnsley walks us through his recent report looking into Trump’s secret presidential immunity plans. Plus! Author Jeff Sharlet is here to talk about Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s battle against Biden at the border.

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 If Greg Abbott is going to use his National Guard troops to flout the U.S. Constitution, the president should do as Dwight D. Eisenhower once did and nationalize the state agency entirely, The New Abnormal hosts argue. Plus! A conversation with Josh from the Substack political newsletter called Ettingermentum, who joins the podcast to discuss Biden’s bad poll numbers and his path to victory in 2024.

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy discuss the end of Ron DeSantis’ 2024 dreams. Then, Protect Democracy Editor Amanda Carpenter walks us through a report she co authored about what we can expect from another Trump presidency. Plus! Author Ben Herold is here to tell us all about his new book,\ “Disillusioned Five Families and the Unraveling of American Suburbs.”

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The former president’s latest rant about “debanking” and electric cars has left The New Abnormal team scratching their heads.  Plus! Danielle Moodie talks to Keith Boykin, the political commentator, film producer and Bill Clinton’s former White House aide, about his new book Why Does Everything Have to Be About Race? 25 Arguments That Won’t Go Away.  

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The former president has been ramping up the “spiritual” language he uses on the campaign trail, according to author and this week’s guest on The New Abnormal, Sarah Posner.Plus! A talk with professor and author Jason Stanley about his book “How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them.”

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On The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy

discuss the problem with Trump’s newest slogan. Then, Frankie Miranda, the president and

CEO of the Hispanic Federation, tells us about the importance of the Latinx vote. Plus! We talk

to the New Republic’s Timothy Noah, who explains the wild ride that started with billionaire Bill

Ackman’s vicious Twitter campaign against then-Harvard President Claudine Gay, and then

snowballed.

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Journalist Tina Nguyen tells The New Abnormal how her time inside America’s political right-wing showed her how it captures young hearts and minds.

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The Bulwark editor Jonathan Last tells The New Abnormal that if Chris Christie really believes that Donald Trump must be stopped at all costs, then he has one card left to play. Plus! Anat Shenker-Osorio, host of the Words to Win By podcast, tells The New Abnormal co-host Danielle Moodie, how Joe Biden’s 2024 campaign messaging is landing with voters.

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Daily Beast media reporter Justin Baragona joins The New Abnormal to discuss how the news media is dealing with the former president’s repeated threats to upend American democracy. Plus! Daily Beast political reporter Riley Rogerson joins the podcast to share her experience reporting on Rep. Lauren Boebert’s falling political fortunes.

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Constitutional law professor Michael Gerhardt tells The New Abnormal that a plain reading of the 14th Amendment would deny Donald Trump’s bid to be president again.

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The Daily Beast’s senior political reporter Roger Sollenberger tells The New Abnormal why Trump’s lead in the polls compared with Biden is set to narrow as the election nears. Plus! Danielle Moodie talks to psychiatrist Jonathan Metzl about his new book What We’ve Become: Living and Dying in a Country of Arms. Moodie will also host Metzl at the Greenlight Bookstore in Brooklyn on Feb. 5 where they will further explore how our collective failure to stop mass shootings is betraying the democracy envisaged by the framers of the Constitution.

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The coming year is set to be a trying time for America, at least according to Bruce Hoffman and Jacob Ware, whose new book God, Guns and Sedition: Far-Right Terrorism in America traces the history of right-wing terrorism in the U.S. Then, former NYPD officer—and the highest-ranking whistleblower in department history—Edwin Raymond joins The New Abnormal to discuss his recent memoir, An Inconcenient Cop: My Fight to Change Policing in America.

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Zander Moricz confronted the Moms for Liberty co-founder at a Sarasota town meeting who he said had once retweeted a hate article about him when he was a high school student. Plus! Foreign Affairs magazine’s executive editor Stuart Reid joins The New Abnormal to speak about his new book The Lumumba Plot: The Secret History of the CIA and a Cold War Assassination.

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Media Matters’ Rapid Response Director Andrew Lawrence joins The New Abnormal to rank the most brain-dead right-wing “controversies” of the year. Then, filmmaker Anike Tourse stops by to discuss her latest project, “American Family.”

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In this week's episode host Danielle Moodie talks to Patrick Gaspard, the CEO of the Center for American Progress Action Fund, discusses the challenges and threats facing democracy, highlighting the rise of Donald Trump and the Republican Party's shift towards extremism. Then Andy Levy sits down with The Guardian US' Martin Pengelly, to talk about his new book "Brotherhood when West Point Rugby Went to War," and discusses the genesis of his book exploring the lives of the 2002 West Point rugby players, their experiences during the 9/11 attacks, and their post-graduation journeys.

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The New Abnormal team says comments by white supremacist Nick Fuentes that Jewish people need to be given the death penalty is another good reason to vote in the 2024 election. Plus! ! Rashad Robinson, president of Color of Change, the largest online civil rights organization in the country, explains why he feels hopeful even at a time when democracy and civil rights are under attack in America.

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In this week’s crossover episode between The New Abnormal and The Last Laugh, we break down how Hasan Minhaj’s “emotional truths” upended The Daily Show’s seemingly eternal search for a new host (or hosts), the downfall of TikTok-favorite standup Matt Rife, and the emergence of Nick Bargatze as a bonafide star of the industry. Plus, a conversation with author Raquel Willis about her new book, The Risk It Takes to Bloom, a memoir exploring her experiences as a Black transgender activist from the American South.

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Moms for Liberty may have lost a few battles, but they’re still winning the culture war, Tamara Gilkes Borr, a U.S. policy correspondent at The Economist, says on this week’s episode of The New Abnormal. Daily Beast political reporter Jake Lahut also joins the podcast to discuss his latest piece, “Donald Trump Is Blowing Up the Myth of the New Hampshire Primary.” 

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The former president claims to be ridiculously wealthy but The New Abnormal team says his move to sell parts of the suit he wore in his Georgia mugshot wreaks of desperation. Plus! Danielle Moodie also talks with Hein de Haas on his book How Migration Really Works: A Factful Guide to the Most Divisive Issue in Politics which provides a clear and rigorous corrective on our distorted ideas around migration.

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John Burn-Murdoch, a columnist and the chief data reporter for the Financial Times, joins The New Abnormal this week to unpack why people feel so bad about what is an objectively strong economy. Then, the newly appointed president of the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, Heather Williams, talks about the party’s plan to win down-ballot races.

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The hosts talk with Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA) about his new bill, “End Hedge Fund Control of American Homes Act of 2023”—and why America needs a paradigm shift in the way it thinks about housing. Plus! A conversation with senior Rolling Stone political reporter Asawin Suebsaeng about his recent investigation titled, “Inside Trump’s Plot to Corrupt the 2024 Election With ‘Garbage’ Data.”

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy reflect on the downward spiral of Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House. Plus! The Nation’s Elie Mystal stops by for a scary prediction if Trump returns to the White House in 2024. Then we talk to The Intercept’s Ryan Grim about his new book.

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Political strategist Michael Podhorzer stops by the podcast to “redirect some anxiety” about recent polls showing Donald Trump in a strong position for next year’s election. Plus! A conversation with writer Jonathan Katz about his most recent piece for “The Atlantic” titled: “Substack has a Nazi problem.”

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t was meant to be a debate showcasing the new faces of the major parties. But as The New Abnormal team points out, Gavin Newsom came armed with something Ron DeSantis wasn’t prepared for. Plus! Danielle Moodie talks to ProPublica’s national reporter, Kavitha Surana, to talk about her deep dive into 12 of the nation’s strictest abortion bans.

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This week on The New Abnormal, MSNBC political analyst and pollster Cornell Belcher talks the science of polls before we all start pulling our hair out. Then we talk to Radley Balko, publisher of Substack page The Watch, about his latest piece discussing how medical examiners shield violent cops from scrutiny.

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Former Capitol Police Officer Sgt. Aquilino Gonell tells The New Abnormal that democracy is on the ballot in the next election and that America must be protected from a second Trump presidency. Plus former Daily Beast journalist turned communications consultant, Timothy Burke, talks about the FBI raid at his home following the leak of embarrassing videos of Tucker Carlson that ended up in the hands of Vice News and Media Matters for America.

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David Roth and Jeb Lund play the Thanksgiving edition of “America 20 Questions,” including answering how thankful they think Donald Trump is for each of his kids. Plus! Danielle Moodie talks to Amelia Nagoski about the book she co-authored with her sister, Emily Nagoski, Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle, which examines the scientific factors that determine the different ways men and women deal with stress.

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Media Matters President Angelo Carusone joins The New Abnormal to talk through his organization’s recent sparring with Elon Musk and his social media platform, X. Plus! A conversation with award-winning author Nnedi Okorafor about her transformational africanfuturism and the importance of inclusive visions of science fiction.

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Bethann Hardison broke barriers in the 1970s by appearing in the top fashion magazines. Her new documentary Invisible Beauty shows how she championed diversity for a new generation of Black models.

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Veteran Jason Kander tells The New Abnormal there are two main reasons why Republicans are afraid to take on Senator Tommy Tuberville’s military blockade. Plus, Andy Norma, founder of CIRCE, or the Cognitive Immunology Research Collaborative, talks about the Mental Immunity Project and how it is trying to combat the crisis of disinformation and people’s susceptibility to it.

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Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Spencer Ackerman stops by the program to talk about Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act—and why Congress should consider scrapping it entirely. Deepa Iyer of the Building Movement Project stops by the podcast to share her unique way of visualizing social movements as entire ecosystems—with each person playing a distinct role in various movements and communities. Plus! Guest host Maura Quint who serves as campaign and communications work for Americans For Tax Fairness.

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Tech columnist Brian Merchant tells The New Abnormal the Luddites got a bad rap following the Industrial Revolution but all they were trying to do was hold big tech to account.

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Congressman Raja Krishnamoorthi tells The New Abnormal that Joe Biden’s sit down with the Chinese President next week will be the first in almost a year and the best chance to ease increased Chinese aggression. Plus, The Daily Beast’s Deputy Politics Editor Sam Brodey breaks down the “Idiot Symposium” otherwise known as this week’s Republican presidential debate.

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Brian Kaylor, the president and editor-in-chief of Word&Way, joins The New Abnormal to discuss new House Speaker Mike Johnson—and why he thinks the longtime religious activist should be classified as a Christian nationalist. Plus! A conversation with reporter Anat Rubin about her recent story in ProPublica about Louisiana’s Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.

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Marine combat photographer Miles Lagoze tells The New Abnormal why Americans were more concerned about the optics of exiting Afghanistan than the mission itself.

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Michael Edison Hayden tells The New Abnormal why Chaya Raichik, the woman behind Libs of TikTok, is so dangerous and why the Anti-Defamation League needs to stand up against her. Plus, The Daily Beast’s political reporter Jake Lahut discusses Congressman Dean Phillips' not so great start to his presidential campaign.

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The U.S. justice system is handling former President Donald Trump with kid gloves, The New Abnormal host Danielle Moodie says. Plus! A discussion about the disconnect between an increasingly technology-reliant world and the aging lawmakers who do not seem to understand the systems that make society tick.

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Matt Bennett, co-founder of national think-tank Third Way, tells The New Abnormal why a second Trump presidency would be a “catastrophe” and leave America “unrecognizable.”

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This week on The New Abnormal, Semafor’s Washington Bureau Chief Benjy

Sarlin tells us the who, what, and why that is the Republican Speaker of the House, Rep. Mike

Johnson. Then, MSNBC legal analyst Glenn Kirschner breaks down all the latest developments

in the many legal troubles of Donald Trump.

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This week on The New Abnormal, Democratic strategist Kurt Bardella makes sense of the clown show that has become the Republican Party—which he used to be a part of—and its attempt to find a new Speaker of the House. Then, The Intercept’s Natasha Lennard tells us about how Scholastic has caved to the far right and made it easier for schools to ban diverse books at their book fairs.

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CNN commentator S.E. Cupp joins The New Abnormal to discuss her recent article about how the right is broken–and nothing is being done to fix it. Then, psychiatrist and author Dr. Jonathan Metzl talks about the connection between the rise in hate crimes in the country and the amount of misinformation made readily available via social media at certain news channels.

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Trump’s legal team seems more concerned with leaving landmines in the court record than winning his New York fraud trial, The Daily Beast’s Jose Pagliery says on this week’s The New Abnormal. Plus! A frank talk about the current state of local politics with Nebraska state Sen. Megan Hunt.

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On this week’s episode of The New Abnormal co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy call out the former president for his latest rallying cry to white supremacists. Plus, Katherine Stewart details her observations since publishing The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism.

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On this week’s episode of The New Abnormal, Republicans have been scrambling to figure out who they could dredge up as House Speaker. Plus! U.S. Rep. Yvette Clarke (D-NY) adds her thoughts on GOP efforts to replace Kevin McCarthy. Then, Dannagal Young, an associate professor of communications at the University of Delaware, describes the “three Cs” behind the social nature of human knowledge.

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On this week’s episode of The New Abnormal, extremism and violent terrorism researcher Alexander Ritzman describes the new, male only movement infiltrating America–and their thoughts on Jan. 6. Plus! NBC News Justice reporter Ryan Reilly provides an in-depth look into the civilian sleuths who have been invaluable in identifying many of the culprits of Jan. 6.

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Author Jonathan Taplin tells The New Abnormal how Peter Thiel, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk and Marc Andreessen, are providing the tools to let fascism flourish.

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On this week’s episode of The New Abnormal, professor and author Jennifer Taub gives us all the details on Trump's fraud case happening right now in New York. Plus! Journalists and podcasters Jeb Lund and David J. Roth talk to us about Kevin McCarthy's, ouster, Ron DeSantis’ floundering campaign and which fictional character Matt Gaetz looks like the most.

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Don’t cry for Kevin—he knew what he was getting into when he took the job as House Speaker, The New Abnormal hosts argue. Then, an interview about dystopian police technology with WIRED staff writer Dhruv Mehrotra.

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Aaron Kleinman, Director of Research for The States Project, tells The New Abnormal that if Republicans are able to win both houses in November’s state election, prepare to see a radical raft of policies by Gov. Glenn Youngkin as he sets his sights on the White House.

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On this week’s episode of The New Abnormal, California Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell talks to us about Colorado congresswoman Lauren Boebert’s latest shocking rant and how he contends with some of the louder members of the Republican Party on the House Judiciary Committee. Plus! The Bulwark’s Jonathan V. Last tells us about the contrast in Democratic and Republican responses to Sen. Bob Menendez’s recent indictment for corruption.

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On this episode of The New Abnormal: Why Joe Biden is right to let Republicans shoot themselves in the foot during yet another idiotic shutdown fight. Plus! A look at Trump’s weekend of manic posting on Truth Social.

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Run For Something has just pumped $10 million into electing left-leaning school board members. Co-founder Amanda Litman tells The New Abnormal the basic credentials you need.

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On this week’s episode of The New Abnormal, MSNBC legal analyst Glenn Kirschner talks about Donald Trump’s latest legal challenges. Then a talk with Freedom of the Press Foundation executive director Trevor Timm about how the U.S. trying Julian Assange under the Espionage Act may prove to be a regrettable decision if Trump is elected president again. 

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Dr. Peter Hotez joins The New Abnormal this week to discuss his new book, “The Deadly Rise of Anti-Science”—and why anti-vaccine conspiracies are so dangerous. Plus! An interview with labor reporter and author Kim Kelly about the United Auto Workers strike.

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This week’s episode of The New Abnormal highlights how Republicans are tying themselves up in knots while attempting to explain why we need an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden.

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